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Just got off the phone to my sources close to the England camp and I can confirm that Roy will be going with Hart, Johnson, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines, Lallana, Henderson, Gerrard, Stirling, Rooney, Sturridge, have also been reliably informed Italy’s starting line up will be Buffon; Abate, Bonucci, Paletta, Chiellini, De Rossi, Pirlo, Marchiso; Candreva; Verratti, Balotelli..
Might actually be a good decision to bring our best player Wilshere on in the second half, with his creativity in the baking sun the tiring Italians wont be able to deal with him, until then our creativity is only coming from the wingers, only hope is Sterling times his runs well and doesn't leave Johnson exposed.
Referee: Kuipers (Dutch)
In his last 8 International matches he’s given 2 reds and on average 3.8 yellow cards a game, last 8 matches in all comps he’s given 1 red and averaged 5 yellow a match (included the 12 yellows in the champs league final/extra time)
I would imagine with a Dutch referee used to the Eredivise would allow for free flowing football and wont acquiesce to the constant diving expected from the eye talians
Might actually be a good decision to bring our best player Wilshere on in the second half, with his creativity in the baking sun the tiring Italians wont be able to deal with him, until then our creativity is only coming from the wingers, only hope is Sterling times his runs well and doesn't leave Johnson exposed.
Referee: Kuipers (Dutch)
In his last 8 International matches he’s given 2 reds and on average 3.8 yellow cards a game, last 8 matches in all comps he’s given 1 red and averaged 5 yellow a match (included the 12 yellows in the champs league final/extra time)
I would imagine with a Dutch referee used to the Eredivise would allow for free flowing football and wont acquiesce to the constant diving expected from the eye talians
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Well it's not over yet.. Uruguay are highly overrated. Costa Rica not easy, but it's not impossible for us to beat them!
England better than many thought but Rooney although making the goal was crap as usual and as thought by virtually everyone the defence let them down with dire marking on both goals, experience won the day but England dominated the 2nd half and will improve, Sterling's going to be some player he went past the Italians on occasions like they were tree's and lets hope Sturridge is okay.
it looks like the manager has told the players not to chase the ball in the first half, which is wrong...becase england need to play at a high tempo to grab goals quick in the conditions
Shearer back tracking like tony admas and terry butcher the fence sitting mug
One point;
Ashley Cole plays for us tonight, we don't concede that second goal. Baines is good for Everton but there's a reason no top team has bought him.
Ashley Cole plays for us tonight, we don't concede that second goal. Baines is good for Everton but there's a reason no top team has bought him.
Whats that song by Skinner and Baddiel " England's coming home their coming" i think.
loving henry on the beeb and ITV have cannavaro clear gulf between the two
STERLING DID NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS ALL NIGHT !!! shearer shut up
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:04AM, Lemmiwinks wrote:
One point;Ashley Cole plays for us tonight, we don't concede that second goal. Baines is good for Everton but there's a reason no top team has bought him.
totally agree
Sterling turned into aaron lennon by the end. Headless running and wild shooting and crosses
Italy should beat Costa Rica
If England draw with Uruguay
It would be
Italy - 6
Cost Rica - 3
England - 1
Uruguay - 1
Italy would play a second string knowing they've topped the group and Urugauy would beat them, England would have to beat Costa Rica by about 3-0
Or if we beat Uruaguay and Italy beat Costa Rica, it'll be
Italy - 6
England - 3
Costa Rica - 3
Uruguay - 0
A draw v Costa rica would do
If we lose v Uruguay it's all over, Uruguay would be a second string italy
If England draw with Uruguay
It would be
Italy - 6
Cost Rica - 3
England - 1
Uruguay - 1
Italy would play a second string knowing they've topped the group and Urugauy would beat them, England would have to beat Costa Rica by about 3-0
Or if we beat Uruaguay and Italy beat Costa Rica, it'll be
Italy - 6
England - 3
Costa Rica - 3
Uruguay - 0
A draw v Costa rica would do
If we lose v Uruguay it's all over, Uruguay would be a second string italy
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:04AM, Lemmiwinks wrote:
One point;Ashley Cole plays for us tonight, we don't concede that second goal. Baines is good for Everton but there's a reason no top team has bought him.
Best post ive seen today
Hodgson has to keep sturridge and Welbeck playing together...and let them do the running, just look at the goal ...tactics need to stay like that
It'll certainly make it very risky for us if we don't win against Uruguay.
i dont think italy necessarily should beat costa rica.
not after watching them both today. anything could happen.
not after watching them both today. anything could happen.
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:08AM, RozelKid wrote:
Hodgson has to keep sturridge and Welbeck playing together...and let them do the running, just look at the goal ...tactics need to stay like that
never welbeck , barkley all day
Gerrard - full of shYte..........someone send him a recording of the match - according to him England matched the Italians but blamed England's "lack of quality in the final third"
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Absolutely nothing to do with him being completely anonymous?
.Absolutely nothing to do with him being completely anonymous?
wht cant the punters have the balls to say we were diabolical, rooney was next to useless, and our defence leaked like a sieve. There that sums up the performance, none of this soft soap sh1t
True Sideshow. Costa Rica will cope with the conditions better than Italy. I can see Italy going in at half-time a goal up, and then sitting back and trying to defend against Costa Rica before coming a cropper late on.
This isn't unlike the Korea WC, where Italy often collapsed in the last 20 minutes.
Italy dropped back because they felt comfortable they could keep England out.
We're buggered now...the South American teams have bundles of energy and skill as seen earlier...doubt we'd beat Costa Rica
Gerrard offers very little he's got no pace and although makes the occasional good pass or shot provides no cover for the defence so leaving a big hole in midfield, I would drop him and play all the young players in midfield next game, you could see how the pace of the younger players bothered the Italians tonight.
That bit of extra pace in midfield will make a huge difference so why not play them all now they have nothing to lose the experience will be good for them.
That bit of extra pace in midfield will make a huge difference so why not play them all now they have nothing to lose the experience will be good for them.
Italy dropped back because that's they nearly always do when they go a goal up. It's the Italian mentality to win games by a single goal. God knows why. And in WCs where the conditions can be sapping, it tends to come back and bite them.
fully expecting the walk of shame et al south Africa 2010
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:13AM, HonkyJoe wrote:
Costa Rica aren't South American...
Well said that man, amazing how many people aint a clue
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:12AM, HonkyJoe wrote:
Bergo
, than god someone got it !!
I though Gerrard said before the match there would be no excuses?
In fairness, Costa Rica ain't exactly one of the most significant countries in the world....
My TV just corrupted for a few seconds and Woy looked like an alien, did that happen to anyone else?!
Erm, which confederation do Costa Rica play in please?
Was he green with big eyes and antennae for ears - then yes I saw it too 
CONCACAF, with the US, Mexico and other countries in North America, Central America (where CR come from) etc.
Why not play Rooney is his natural position though.Surely if you play him you would play him in his favored position not out on the left wing.
Roy you mug
He looked like fish out of water on the left !
Danny on line even saw it !! Ffs. Lol
He looked like fish out of water on the left !
Danny on line even saw it !! Ffs. Lol
Check out where Costa Rica are on this map, they are South American in all but nationality..
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Costa+Rica/@9.6301892,-84.2541844,4z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8f92e56221acc925:0x6254f72535819a2b
about what, 50 miles from Colombia?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Costa+Rica/@9.6301892,-84.2541844,4z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8f92e56221acc925:0x6254f72535819a2b
about what, 50 miles from Colombia?
CONCAF; so yeah they qualified from teh north american section.
They are on the central american strip that runs from Mexico to Colombia with countries that include; Nicaragua; Belize, Honduras, El Salvador, Panama and Guatemala.
They are on the central american strip that runs from Mexico to Colombia with countries that include; Nicaragua; Belize, Honduras, El Salvador, Panama and Guatemala.
We have got to go to England and Wales.....we need Bale
You either play him through the middle, or you don't play him at all. Fact is, though, he should have scored and didn't, and that's nothing to do with him being out of position. He's often not bad for us in qualifiers, but he's dreadful in the main tournaments. (And also not great for MU at the business end - he was shocking against Bayern Munich, for instance.)
Hamsterdam, they're not South American. FFS they're Central American. Could they have even been drawn in the same group as a South American side, had they been South American?
Distance between Rio de Janiero is greater than the distance between London and Lahore
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:23AM, Hamsterdam wrote:
For the sake of my argument, they are South American.
They are central american
Just Checking 15 Jun 14 01:17
My TV just corrupted for a few seconds and Woy looked like an alien, did that happen to anyone else?!
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Well more than one of you say you seen it and that's enough for me. I was wrong, David Yikes was right, the top positions are run by ALIEN REPTILES!
(seriously though it was really wierd, it was like I was watching a sci fi film!) (and I'm not ON anything before you ask :))
My TV just corrupted for a few seconds and Woy looked like an alien, did that happen to anyone else?!
----
Well more than one of you say you seen it and that's enough for me. I was wrong, David Yikes was right, the top positions are run by ALIEN REPTILES!
(seriously though it was really wierd, it was like I was watching a sci fi film!) (and I'm not ON anything before you ask :))
lol wherever it is, theyre a better team than we thought they were.
if they can beat uruguay 3-1, and it wasnt a fluke they deserved to win, theyre no certainties to lose to italy or england.
if they can beat uruguay 3-1, and it wasnt a fluke they deserved to win, theyre no certainties to lose to italy or england.
I agree but all the press will focus on Rooney which I think is harsh. Gerrard didnt do much tonight and I cant remember him having a good tournament in the past.Rooney did play well in his first in Portugal,an example there was Shearer just said Rooney should have been in the centre for the ball Sterling played across the goal. Surely Sturridge should have been who he should have said.
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:24AM, Just Checking wrote:
Just Checking 15 Jun 14 01:17 My TV just corrupted for a few seconds and Woy looked like an alien, did that happen to anyone else?!----Well more than one of you say you seen it and that's enough for me. I was wrong, David Yikes was right, the top positions are run by ALIEN REPTILES!(seriously though it was really wierd, it was like I was watching a sci fi film!) (and I'm not ON anything before you ask :))
Yeah happened to me as well
Surprised Henderson hasn't come in for much criticism.
I'm not quite sure what he offered for us, I can't remember him making any great tackles, blocks or reading the play.
He never showed for the ball like Barkley did and many occasions you'd see him running off into a crowd of Italian players not taking responsibility.
I'm not quite sure what he offered for us, I can't remember him making any great tackles, blocks or reading the play.
He never showed for the ball like Barkley did and many occasions you'd see him running off into a crowd of Italian players not taking responsibility.
When I watched Brief Encounters of the Third Kind, and it got to the scene where the spacecraft starts communicating, my phone rang with a very strange tone.. I picked it up and the line was dead. Then the dial tone returned, and when I did 1471, it told me nobody had phoned since the day before... Always been a bit freaked out about that incident.. 
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:25AM, hereisgone2 wrote:
I agree but all the press will focus on Rooney which I think is harsh. Gerrard didnt do much tonight and I cant remember him having a good tournament in the past.Rooney did play well in his first in Portugal,an example there was Shearer just said Rooney should have been in the centre for the ball Sterling played across the goal. Surely Sturridge should have been who he should have said.
Well I think he has brought it on himself after the last time england played in a comeptetive match and shouted at the camera mugging the fans off.
Don't know why Roy keeps going on about how the young players need to learn and get experience. It wasn't the young players who were at fault!
Well I think he has brought it on himself after the last time england played in a comeptetive match and shouted at the camera mugging the fans off.
Yea thats prob true I forgot about that.
Yea thats prob true I forgot about that.
Rooney was good in the European Championships in Portugal. But he was still brand new and didn't come into the tournament with any real expectation on him. Every tournament since then, he's been a waste of space. I'm a big Rooney fan, but I can't keep making excuses for him. He just can't deal with pressure.
Italy average, England usual headless chicken dross.
Domestic coverage is pathetic, Italy won without getting out of 2nd gear.
Domestic coverage is pathetic, Italy won without getting out of 2nd gear.
Not sure Italy would have had a 3rd gear to go into... Neither side particularly good. Ridiculous thing is that 20% of Italians think their side's going to win the WC!!
Can't believe the white Pele is getting so much criticism on here.
Italy were ultra defensive when 2-1 up, there's no way Uruguay will a) have that patience and b) have the quality to hold England off, can imagine the game will be ping ponging for 90 minutes, who takes there chances wins, Suarez will probably play though,
He doesn't perform on the big occasion. Hence the criticism.
Bulldog spirit gone when players all earn £100k plus per week.
Two very mediocre sides.
Two very mediocre sides.
He doesn't perform on the big occasion. Hence the criticism.
My tongue was thirmly in my cheek.
My tongue was thirmly in my cheek.
hoddle about gerrard pen decision, "if that was a Brazillian shirt going down then that is a penalty"
..probabaly right though
..probabaly right though
Thought he'd lost the ball forward myself...gerrard didn't even bother to appeal did he?
Personally expect a player being paid £300k per week to be producing a very good Messi or Ronaldo top performance.
No players in the squad even close to World Class.
A Scottish Premier League standard yes man manager does not help either.
No players in the squad even close to World Class.
A Scottish Premier League standard yes man manager does not help either.
Gerrard a waste of space most of his career.
The worst player on the park tonight with Rooney a close second.
The worst player on the park tonight with Rooney a close second.
Jun 15, 2014 -- 1:51AM, duffy wrote:
Thought he'd lost the ball forward myself...gerrard didn't even bother to appeal did he?
na no appeal, but it was a challenge were he may have been able to con the ref if he did appeal !!
I thought the gerrard incident was a clear penalty to be honest, they say he didn't go down the right way yet welbeck 2when down to theatrically2 so just what should u do to get thepen
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