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except in the 'special one's' eyes

So you are suggesting this is a brown envelope job?!

Spurious at best!

The penalty wasn't questionable CCM?

Plus no that's not all that matters. How the appointments people see fit to put officials into that type of situation is beyond me.

Of course I take your point. And had they done a bad job, I could understand your annoyance and would agree with you. But I thought the ref had a good game. And looked a pen to me.

Im pretty sure if there was any pro Liverpool FC agenda it would not have taken 25 years for the league to be given back to us, we would have won another 10 in that time if that was the case. So im afraid the conspiracy theories are stopped with that point alone.

Pen was def iffy and given by lino - non red card for Ram not at all iffy and (not) given by ref!

pen wasn,t iffy imo  it simply wasn,t a pen ,watch again and take note where the ball is , one of the worse non pens ive seen in a long time imo

and the non red?

Apr 19, 2014 -- 9:28PM, jon b wrote:

pen wasn,t iffy imo

I've seen the penalty briefly a couple of times and seemed that Altidore slipped to me.

Also looked like Ramires could have had one in the first half which I've been told was the trigger for him slapping Larsson.

Chelsea fans will say the officials had a poor game whilst Liverpool fans will think they did well. That's football supporters for you.

A certain manager made the point earlier this season about where a referee came from. It seems the appointments guys surpassed themselves this time.

You're suggesting the match ref turned up with the preconceived notion of doing whatever he could to assist Liverpool to win the title?

posting him a creme egg for easter

with the message -- your no  ferrero rocher

hippie I don't know what it is but I notice you popping up on various threads being a bit of a div.

I said in an earlier post that Chelsea didn't do enough but to ask why someone who isn't able to officiate Liverpool games is allowed to officiate in a game that was indirectly vital to them is a pretty valid question I think.

That's regardless of any views I have on decisions made today

what threads have I popped up on being a bit of a div?

You're clearly suggesting the referee is bias. That's stinks of being a bad loser but if you can provide proof go ahead.

Just to clarify for you Mike Dean doesn't ref games involving Liverpool.

One of today's linesmen doesn't officiate in games involving Liverpool.

Yet they pop up in a game that's vitally important to Liverpool's chances of winning the title. Personally I felt there were a couple of decisions that were questionable. Others believe the decisions were a disgrace and have automatically linked them to the official's locations.

Now how the hell are the FA putting officials in situations like that? Incidentally Lee Mason hasn't reffed a Liverpool game since Rodgers' comments in December so it appears they can be sensitive to some club's issues with officials.

He's an utter embarrassment, even more so after all the favours theyve had this season, the last minute pen v West Brom being the worst and lets not forget they should have been down to 10 men v Liverpool after about 2 minutes with that horrific tackle from Eto'o on Henderson (And Suarez should have had a penalty). He's a classless moron and has been for a decade now, the sooner Abramovich is sick of his dismal football and sends him packing the better. Dunno where he'll go though as he's absolutely loathed in Spain and Italy, the media saw straight through him whereas for some reason ours hails him as a "character" and "great for the game".

lost the plot, but we already knew that from his days in Madrid

wouldnt you like a manager who was half as good?

half as good at what? Being classless? Not seeing clear red cards against your team and claiming that the ref is biased against you? Being a 1 eyed hypocrite? What exactly?

is that it spyker?
winning titles.

winnibg champions leagues.

he's the best that's why he gets the top gigs.

does it hurt?

not sure Chelsea can be called the "top gig"

I see Mex is taking over from Atkins on the 'night shift seethe'

Should be fun.

well if they wern't you'd be laughing at them wouldn't you?

but i notice your sense of humour seems to have deserted you in the last few days

nevermind Rafa might be available next season

what an absolute coont he is

fcuking moan moan moan

what an odious, pompous arrogant piece of work he is.

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nevermind Rafa might be available next season Laugh
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what do ya reckon there'll be a vacancy at city?

hippie maybe you should get an understanding of what libel actually means.

Wondering why the PGMOL ends up putting their officials in situations like that isn't libel

Just to clarify for you Mike Dean doesn't ref games involving Liverpool.

One of today's linesmen doesn't officiate in games involving Liverpool.

Yet they pop up in a game that's vitally important to Liverpool's chances of winning the title.

There's no doubt what you've implied there and it's libelous.

To be fair Marcce does make a good point. If the officials have got any connections with Liverpool and aren't allowed to do Liverpool games, then it's pretty stupid of the premier league to let them officiate at a game involving their main title rival.

Regardless of whether they were biased or whether they had the most perfect game ever, it's stupid to put them in that position in the first place.

Having said that though, i don't think there was any hint of them being biased and they actually did Chelsea a favour by not sending Ramires off.

What you're suggesting is that there should be a cut-off after which Mike Dean and Jake Collin can't officiate games involving teams at the top of the table if Liverpool are in a challenging position.

That opens a whole can of ethical worms.

An interesting conundrum and would have been much more valid if Jose had brought it up before the match rather than try to pin the defeat on the ref despite the one obvious wrong decision going massively in Chelsea's favour.

but surely the can of worms has been opened earlier?

it said spaghetti on the label

hippie I'll invite you to go away and check out what libel means because you're making yourself look a div again.

Just to clarify a bit more for you the authorities withdrew Dean from the 2006 FA Cup final to avoid this

"The fact he is from the Wirral might lead to comment and debate which could place him under undue additional pressure. The decision has been taken with the best interests of Mike Dean and the competition in mind."

yet put him in charge of a game today that has led to comment and debate which is hardly in the best interests of Mike Dean or the competition.

A good day for football.

smelly

we're talking top of the table issues here.

it's got ferk hall to do with you.

mike deans an everton fan.
i wouldn't pay too much credence to the fact he's from the wirral.

Maybe somebody could dig up a thread from when Brendan Rogers got into trouble for the 'Refs from Greater Manchester' quote - I'm sure TBB will have it in his bookmarks. If i remember he was ridiculed on here (by the usual mob) yet now a ref with the slightest connection to Liverpool can't ref any match that might have something (directly or indirectly) to do with Liverpool. I don't know how some can look themselves in the mirror of a morn.........

we are all hypocrites to some degree spyker, football does it to us.

Apr 19, 2014 -- 11:32PM, spyker wrote:

Maybe somebody could dig up a thread from when Brendan Rogers got into trouble for the 'Refs from Greater Manchester' quote - I'm sure TBB will have it in his bookmarks. If i remember he was ridiculed on here (by the usual mob) yet now a ref with the slightest connection to Liverpool can't ref any match that might have something (directly or indirectly) to do with Liverpool. I don't know how some can look themselves in the mirror of a morn.........

i was going to make that comment, but it'll be ignored by the hypocrites.

some are bigger than others though

Mourinho is indeed classless in a footballing context...

..but I have been posting this for a while now....he is BORED and feels he is stagnating.

An ego like his needs attention and stimulation from within and without and needs to keep moving forward to new horizons and fresh challenges....

..all the nonsense he has been spouting from early in the new season up until today .....

..an 11 year old could figure out his so called "mind games" and as far as tonights stuff goes we all know the famous quote "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit"!!!

... this has been him trying desperately to distract himself from his boredom and feeling of been here ...done that!

Borinho is on the wane. He had his time at big clubs like Inter Milan and Real Madrid.

Now he is at a tin pot club and he knows it.

Sacked by next summer (nap)

and that makes it alright?

makes what alright?

Hippie a minute ago you were saying I'd implied something. Yet now it's clear in black and white. So which is it?

I think you'll be struggling to find it clearly in black and white to be honest.

Roman must be wondering why he asked this odious, anti football eye poker to come back to Chelsea and bore every football fan in the country sh!tless, on and off the pitch...week in week out...as sure as night follows day...whilst winning fcuk all.

Roman must be self harming as we speak.

steve

so you are letting your prejudice come to the fore now.

what relevance has the fact that chelsea are owned by a russian billionaire  got to do with anything, bearing in mind that man u a nnd liverpool are owned by american billionaires, and city are owned by arab billionaires?

the fact is there were questins aginst tod ays officials, and it's arguable that they may have had an inordinate effect on todays result.
should these questions go unasked?

what questions are these?
bare in mind the linesman that gave the pen also gave the andy carroll goal against liverpool.
bare in mind ramires wasn't sent off.

Roman must be self harming as we speak.

...I doubt it smiley...not with the gorgeous Dasha around to console him...I expect the Chelsea result and playing style is very very quickly forgotten.

Smiley bet you wish he'd bored everyone that day last month that 6 went into the Arsenal net.

You'll remember the game well I'm sure. It was the one where you were all over the Chelsea thread for a week before yet miraculously disappeared into thin air afterwards.

...no mexicano...they shouldn't go unasked....

...but maybe Mourinho should have the courage and fortitude to query them rather than enter into a rambling sarcastic diatribe and then storming off.

wtf has the carrol goal got to do with todays game?????????????

and ramires wasnt sent of because the ref was looking the other way.

getting back to the topic that is under debate.

loads of people have watched ut multiple times, in real time and in slow mo, and they cant make their mind up.

but the ref gave it in an instant, without any of the help that all the "good ju8dges"had.

tells me one of two things.

either hw couldnt wait to give it, or his judgement is serioussly flawed.

Hopefully tomorrow Mike Riley will question Mourinho's judgment in loaning his best striker to a rival for a Champions League place.

..or it was a penalty...as the slow motion suggests.

...no mexicano...they shouldn't go unasked....

...but maybe Mourinho should have the courage and fortitude to query them rather than enter into a rambling sarcastic diatribe and then storming off.
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do you know what.

i reckon that there will be more questions asked about the points he raised, without the slightest hint of any action against him, so i reckon as far as he's concerned it's job done.

" **** off Mourinho
**** off Mourinho
**** off Mourinho
**** off Mourinho"




"You're not special
You're not special
You're not special any more ......"

Apr 19, 2014 -- 11:58PM, mexicano wrote:

wtf has the carrol goal got to do with todays game?????????????and ramires wasnt sent of because the ref was looking the other way.getting back to the topic that is under debate.loads of people have watched ut multiple times, in real time and in slow mo, and they cant make their mind up.but the ref gave it in an instant, without any of the help that all the "good ju8dges"had.tells me one of two things.either hw couldnt wait to give it, or his judgement is serioussly flawed.

how many penalties are given when refs aren't 100% sure.
how many dubious penalties have been given this season?
yet when chelsea get the first penalty given against them of the season, that looked a penalty in real time, you're calling it sinister.
laughable.

plus the point i made about the carroll goal is that the linesman that gave THIS penalty gave the carroll goal.  i was under the impression that you thought he was bias.  because mike dean gave it after the assistant flagged.

I doubt it will be anything other than a piecemeal, tribal debate - it seldom is.

5 pens scored plus 1 pen missed, 13 EPL goals today.

I wonder what the ratio of pens; goals now is vs start of the EPL? Significantly higher, I suspect.

The ref base location/club affiliation issue will always raise its ugly head occasionally - let's have swap for a season, we can have the Bundesliga refs and they can have ours...

Unlikely there will be any original thought, just the same old arguments recycled ad nauseum.

...he hasn't raised any specific points though...just a general sarcastic diatribe against what he perceives to a general injustice bordering on persecution of him and his team....

..and has made himself out to be rather ignorant and rude in the process....

A very good manager but often does himself no favours and his antics are starting to become very dated and almost predictable....boring in a word.....

... no kudos in his actions at all I would suggest.

steview this linesman didn't give the Carroll goal. He flagged for the foul and was overruled by the referee.

how many penalties are given when the ref isnt 100% SURE?  FAR TOO MANY BECAUSE IF THE AINT THEY SHOULDNT GIVE THEM.
how many dubious penalties have been given this season

aint got a clue, but if thetre's the slightest hint that they migght be dubious they shouldmt be given


yet when chelsea get the first penalty given against them of the season, that looked a penalty in real time, you're calling it sinister.
laughable.

but it wasnt a pen.

re the carrol goal i was posting on here that the officials had that so wrong it was untrue.and you can pull that fred up whenever you feel like it.

ah! i see the mover might have regained his sense of humour.

i wonder if he's got enough of it to raise a fred to laugh at pellegrini.

because he must be the only high profile manager he's left out.

football fans are great, penalty given against your team and its an outrage, penalty given for your team that was that bad a decision that the ref had to appologise to your opposition and not a word uttered, add to that eto trying to hack suarez down and nothing given.

These things happen to all teams nothing whatsoever to with the ref being biased more to do with the supporters bias.

I only have a Mourinho one, and that originated in his Madrid days. Im just glad he's carried it over to Chelsea

actually scotty there is another element to it. Todays refs in the EPL must be the worst bunch I can recall, it's no surprise really that previously sane men like Mourinho can be turned into seething wrecks

Mex you seething aye ????

is that the best you've got berk?

try and take the argument to pieces, or go down the lazy rout of people who've got ferk hall of any interest to say [as per unfortunatly as far as you're concerned] and come out with the forum idiots favourite word.

seething.

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actually scotty there is another element to it. Todays refs in the EPL must be the worst bunch I can recall, it's no surprise really that previously sane men like Mourinho can be turned into seething wrecks Laugh

Agreed the refs have been shocking, but in fairness they are consistent in that they are shocking week in week the length and breadth of the country,they have even managed to send the wrong players off lol, be nice to see if they can do it to chelsea again next week should just about push the boring predictable portugeezer over the edge

I think that's a yes, Bergy.

hahaha maybe I was a bit stern on 'seething'...You are fecking livid -

Apr 20, 2014 -- 12:27AM, Glossy wrote:

I think that's a yes, Bergy.

Indeed

Imagine getting beat at home by the bottom team, Oh wait we don't have to imagine .............

http://www.flashscore.com/match/6osxbMdS/#match-summary

Mugrinho must be still sobbing in private ... Looks like Arsenal could be the top dogs in London this season

not livid or seething, quite prepared to debate what went on today,no doubt you and glossy being such studious members of this forum will show me the error of my ways when i protest that the penalty should not have been given,

or then again you could resort to saying nothing of any value ,but accuse me of being livid, or seething,

your call.

Looks like Arsenal could be the top dogs in London this season

you wanna price on that?

...nothing would surprise me this season.....

Arsenal and Everton to have a meltdown......Spurs win all their matches left.......Spurs get 4th.....happy days and a forum meltdown by me..

you can have a price on that as well

Arsenil 8 behind with a game in hand and Chelsea to go to Anfield. It's not over until Diego Simeone sings

unlike arsenal and city chelsea's season is not over,their season will end in lisbon.

That was a Stonewall Pen the Day Mex. A$$-P!ssilicueta was sniteeeee !!

Apr 20, 2014 -- 12:44AM, mexicano wrote:

unlike arsenal and city chelsea's season is not over,their season will end in lisbon.

Will hold you do that comment ...Would be funny if Atletico madrid ut chelsea out and Arsenal had the last laugh at Wemberlyyy

p*

Apr 20, 2014 -- 12:39AM, themover wrote:

Arsenil 8 behind with a game in hand and Chelsea to go to Anfield. It's not over until Diego Simeone sings

Diego knows

berk

you are entitled to your view, no matter how detached from mainstream opinion you might be.

would you like a price about the gutless ponces from N5 baimg top london club this season?

or has reality checked in?

yeah give me a price

Chelsea did well to get to the semis avoiding any of Barcelona, Bayern or Real. Even the semi has probably thrown up the best possible draw for them. Obviously now a penalty to Atletico in the week and Mourinho will be on super seethe watch, which hasnt been seen since his 2011 UEFA rant : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hofXdMHVjUI

no entiendo no entiendo

no entiendo no entiendo

yeh; chelsea really did well, they beat what was put in front of them, unlike tjhe other underperforming british teams.

you two keep watching other teams in the latter end of the season,

meanwhile, we'll keep on doing what we're good at

and you can keep doing what you're good at.

funking for the negative.

lets hope its Liverpools turn tomorrow. I think Norwich are bringing Fashanu out of retirement! what a hit that was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wk34X94Whk

Quality Tekkkkers that ....

sossij jokky

Old skool football. Barry Davies on comms, just applause from the crowd and minimalist celebrations from the goal scorer.

Another special performance from Jose, embarrassing the club once again