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By:
rommel
When: 02 Nov 16 12:46
which,legia or leic
By:
anxious
When: 02 Nov 16 12:46
btts to score Dortmund v sporting lisbon
By:
anxious
When: 02 Nov 16 12:46
legia
By:
bigH
When: 20 Nov 16 14:57
Great to see Yaya Toure back

Now he has lost weight and back in shape it is like having a new signing
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 16 15:25
looks fitter than he has been for sometime. Can't really see him cementing down a starting place every week but priceless being able to give others a rest with the Christmas period coming up Cool
By:
mega88
When: 20 Nov 16 23:53
Is this true you're getting Messi?? 500k a week salary. Rumours of a deal??
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 00:16
Yes, apparently Messi is interested in beating Shearer's Premier League goal scoring record of 260...he reckons 2 seasons should do it Grin
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 00:27
Messi has always signed 4 year contracts (the current one runs until 2018) so he gets a pay rise every couple of years. Barca are pretty close to the advised percentages under FFP so increasing it might be tricky although I'm sure they will find a way.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 21 Nov 16 10:45
Wondered where this thread went to. Thought it had died through lack of interest and been cryogenically frozen.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 21 Nov 16 10:49
Never knew thefantasist was so intimate ly familiar with Barca's accounts.
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 10:53
I'm not, the Barcelona president said it recently when the media were discussing Messi's contract despite. HTH
By:
OnePercenter
When: 21 Nov 16 11:00
Considering the long running and ongoing tax investgations into Messi, Neymar and various other Barca players and the club itself I would doubt anything that comes out of the club President's mouth.

Plus we know like City all Barca financial decisions are made in the Middle East.

Both clubs bend over for the Arab dollar.
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 11:01
do you have a problem with Arabian currency? Be careful you're beginning to sound like a racist!
By:
OnePercenter
When: 21 Nov 16 11:34
The huge Arab injections of money (and Real Madrid get them too) show that these clubs are not run as businesses but as playthings for rich and very questionable people. Not many Arab governments and their investment funds would pass a fit and proper ownership test without their huge cash piles.

Even the world's most profitable clubs can not compete.

As someone once said, money doesn't talk it swears.
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 11:42
Which of the worlds most profitable clubs can't compete?

Hopefully you aren't suggesting Manchester United having recently spent £89 million on Paul Pogba?
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 11:53
Paul Pogba 2 goals in 11 games
Yaya Toure 2 goals in 80 minutes

Grin
By:
OnePercenter
When: 21 Nov 16 11:54
Neither Bayern nor United can compete for the top players.

United got Pogba because neither Real, City nor Barca really wanted him. Juve pulled United's pants down.

What keeps Aguero at City? When you run a country and a Treasury anything is possible.
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 11:54
Man United's 1st Quarter Financial Results :

Debt up 18% to £337.7m
Matchday revenue down 32%
Profit down 76%
By:
anxious
When: 21 Nov 16 11:55
Mover citys recent run of success is down purely to Abu Dhabi , its nothing to do with your small club
By:
anxious
When: 21 Nov 16 11:57
Even with the vast wealth nonbody is interested in your insignificant small club
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 11:57
Surely if it was just down to money Manchester United would have won the Premier League 20 times by now...oh wait
By:
OnePercenter
When: 21 Nov 16 11:58
You quote figures without context. That's what troll specialise in.

Do you really think a good accountant can't turn a profit dip into a great tax opportunity?

Donald Trump once lost so much money one year he didn't pay tax for the next 18 years
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 12:03
That's true....United's owners successfully avoided Corporation Tax on the profits

Some would say that was unethical I guess
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 12:04
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-16/
osbornes-new-tax-rules-would-have-forced-man-utd-to-pay-corporation-tax/
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 12:09
As one MP said :

"The government must investigate the tax treatment of these kinds of deals. It cannot be right to allow people to buy up companies, pile them with debt and get a tax break for the privilege," he said. "The road to recovery needs a more responsible form of capitalism and must bring an end to this kind of financial engineering. The Glazer family must not be allowed to fill their pockets at the expense of the taxpayer and Manchester United supporters throughout the world."
By:
themover
When: 21 Nov 16 12:31
Of course many would expect Manchester United to be a company registered in the United Kingdom..probably in Manchester

As it is the company are incorporated in the Cayman Islands. Quite how a club incorporated in the Cayman Islands gets into the English Premier League is anyones guess Laugh
By:
OnePercenter
When: 21 Nov 16 13:04
Yes United are more than an English Premier League club. They are also a global business making money from all over the world and like all global businesses they choose low tax countries to base their headquarters in.

Personally I would start jailing CEOs and accountants who seek to avoid paying their fair share of tax. If the money was earned wholly in the UK, i.e. ticket sales, then UK tax should apply.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 13 Dec 16 19:19
Premiership title challenge collapse, defence in disarray, goalkeeper a calamity, Pep rambling about not being the coach for the tackle, Champions League draw the other day yet not a single post on the City thread for over 3 weeks Laugh
By:
OnePercenter
When: 13 Dec 16 19:55
Forgot about the fistycuffs with Chelsea, the FA fine, the return of Yaya and his drink driving ban.

Incredible that a club that aspires to be European Champions hasn't got 2 supporters on this forum.
By:
bigH
When: 13 Dec 16 20:09
wrong again

and you are obsessed with City
By:
OnePercenter
When: 13 Dec 16 22:11
Wrong? About what?

Obsessed? I'm just curious where TF all their so called fans are.
By:
themover
When: 13 Dec 16 22:39
probably on a Manchester City forum, unless of course you think the Betfair forum represents the number of fans a club has Crazy
By:
themover
When: 13 Dec 16 22:44
You do however raise some interesting points! City are second favourites to win the Premier League..hardly a title collapse (United however are 29/1 by comparison). Defence needs sorting, but doesn't help when your best defender (Kompany) isn't available. Keeper been there two minutes...remember how De Gea started at United? Champions League draw was a decent one, but any would have been as we couldn't get Barca, Real or Bayern.

Chelsea fistycuffs, FA fine and Yaya's ban aren't that interesting, except to journalists.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 14 Dec 16 08:57
Anyone with a pair of eyes and ears will know City's defensive problems are far greater than just missing Kompany.

City don't have any decent defenders and Pep has admitted he doesn't know how to coach a defence.

And of course players getting done for D&D and the team getting 2 players sent off in a mass brawl is of no interest to the fans Laugh
By:
themover
When: 14 Dec 16 13:04
City have decent defenders, they just aren't necessarily used to playing the way Guardiola wants them to (or maybe can't). At the end of the day if they don't they'll be moved on and replaced by someone that can imho
By:
themover
When: 14 Dec 16 13:57
Virgil van Dijk maybe on his way Wink
By:
OnePercenter
When: 14 Dec 16 15:12
City have one decent defender, Kompany. Stones is £50m down the drain.

Pep said in his ramblings that he is not the coach for the tackle. I wouldn't put money on City lifting the title and at 1.22 I'd be very wary about putting money on them finishing in the top 4.

But I guess at the end of the day no one give a flying fcuk where City finish in the league. They were once a great club now they are just an Arab's plaything. A couple of riots away from being the next Leeds United.
By:
feed the goat......
When: 14 Dec 16 15:27
Zzzzźzzzzzzzzzzz
By:
themover
When: 14 Dec 16 15:40
A few other coaches have remarked on Guardiola's comments regarding tackling :

Walter Mazzarri - "I don't coach on tackling either". “You don’t train a player to tackle – this is something that comes naturally to players in a defensive phase. “I’ve never taught players to tackle because the only thing that matters is that it’s done within the rules of the game and you go for the ball.”

Tony Pulis - "“I understand where he's coming from. He's a possession manager, a person that thrives on possession, and that's massive for him.

“He would concentrate more on controlling the ball and wanting to be the dominant team in possession more than anything else.

“Most probably it's been taken out of context in that respect.”

Mark Hughes - ""Most managers don't coach tackles," Hughes insisted. "At the level we're talking about that is a fundamental skill that they should have anyway"

Maybe some more will come out with an opinion, but either way I'm sure Guardiola knows what he is doing.
By:
themover
When: 14 Dec 16 15:55
Mourinho on the other hand probably spends 90% of his time on tackling Laugh
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