Right.  I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt and say that he was wanting to have a discussion.  It's not exactly clever to nominate the world's most expensive player as the best of the British players.

If you think it's shallow and blinkered, that's fine.  You're entitled to your opinion.  But the talk about what Gerrard did ten years ago is completely irrelevant to this discussion; we're talking about the here and now.

If I was naming a world XI, Bale would get pretty near to being in that team (assuming he wasn't in it).  Don't think that Gerrard would get close.  Are you saying that on current form (let's say, for argument's sake, in the last 12 months) you think that Gerrard is a better player than Bale?

Wales have them both.

1. Bale by a MILE.
2. Ramsey

For goodness sake Bale is the best British player by miles. What on earth are you debating about... it's laughable.

I can only assume the fishermen are out in force.

glossy I'd no intention of having a ruck I just thought you were fishing, but after tonight's performance by the greatest living Welshman perhaps you weren't. Like I said earlier maybe in a year or two he may be able to raise his game and compete at the absolute top level, tonight just proves that at the moment he is nowhere near that level.

After seeing Bale tonight I will stick with John Terry on current form he has been immaculate this season.

joe hart

Genuinely interested to hear your thoughts glossy ... still Bale ...???