Moyes Gone... Check the price

Agent Moyes has done well on operation destroy United.

what price?

Moyes to go price under football specials ... somebody knows something, just gone from 6/1 against to odds on in last 30 minutes!

He is gone!!!

hardly a deluge of money, but when there is money waiting to back at odds on, somethings happened.

surprised he lasted this long. i thought he would have gone a month or 2 bak.

Saw this on twitter:

(Press Association) -- MUFC have confirmed to the New York Stock Exchange that David Moyes will leave the club my mutual consent.

might just be a hoax though

getting played off the park to olympiakos was the last straw. 3-0 would have been a fair scoreline.

all over twitter now

anybody backing it at odds on is a madman, its clearly a hoax.

moyes has much work to do

ryan giggs installed as player manager for remainder of season.

odds against now

Nothing on SSN suggests it's all just a hoax

It may be a hoax but when you list the company publicly you open it up to this sort of speculation.

The business plan is shot. They're staring at worst case scenario and have to make up the shortfall. Sacking the manager may be the easiest way to placate the shareholders in the short term in the same way as any CEO of a failing PLC gets the chop.

Bisco im trading the snooker, whats it saying on ssn?

Nothing at all Bhoys. It's just twitter rumours so far sparked by an apparent comment about United informing the stock exchange that he's gone. Absolutely nothing official anywhere.

he has to stay, i will be devastated if they sack him

Specials - Next Manager To Leave Position

3.0 and rising last time I looked, hardly convincing imo.

wheres he gone to

Presumably the rumours started on the other side of the pond and if any pressure is being applied it's by the Yanks.

The NYSE doesn't open for another 2 and a half hours but when it does watch the share price.

Do we think this is all due to the rumours?

Or could it be murmurs that the board aren't happy with him. Because the price doesn't suggest he's gone, it seems to suggest he could be gone soon though.

Does anyone really think that Moyes will be sacked before the end of the season? I just don't think that a club like united would go through that after he was chosen by Ferguson, and he has said sacking managers is not the way to go.

Odds against to be there til the end of the season - seems a decent bet I think - going out of the CL is the worst thing as they can concentrate on the league.

xoxo, you're ignoring the financial implications.

The Glazer's strategy was based on CL income servicing the debt. NYSE investor are going to be out of pocket with no visible means of rectifying the situation. The Glazers either throw up their hands and admit their incompetence (and get removed) or lay the blame on Moyes.

hippie: Interesting - obviously being a PLC then the share price is the most important thing to the Glazers etc. That being said I don't think they would have expected to win the CL with the remaining teams in there and especially with the form United are in at the moment. As Moyes has been promised money to invest in the Summer and has given Nani and Rooney new contracts, and signed Mata it seems unlikely that a club like United would get rid of Moyes especially mid-season.

I'm interested thoughts on this because even if they finish in 10th are they really going to sack him? Who else could they get in?

It's too late to do anything this season, the campaign is a write off, so i don't think he'll be sacked now. I think he'll be backed in the summer and we'll see a huge overhaul of their squad. Vidic, Rio, Evra, RVP, Valencia, Cleverley, Hernandez, Anderson, Buttner, Kagawa will likely all leave. And if results aren't good in August/September then he'll be sacked. I'd be very surprised if it's sooner than that.

short term, i think if they did sack him (unlikely) then saf would stand in until they found a replacement

I think Fergie's too shrewd to return and risk ruining his reputation

The Glazers took control with borrowed money using a leveraged buyout - a risky archaic, failed technique that leaves them open to disgruntled partners.

United don't have to win the CL but they have to be in it year on year to make the Glazer plan work. If I was a NYSE institutional investor I would be asking some serious questions in a couple of hours time about the safety of my investment.

As for managers, it would madness to give anyone a contract so close to a World Cup in the knowledge that the likes of Van Gaal and Prandelli are looking for new jobs afterwards.

poss, they could cover that by saying giggs and saf for example, but if it's about steadying the ship and restoring confidence to the nyse then that's their best option

if i'm not mistaken, United's next EPL home game is against Liverpool.

If they were to be beaten and heavily beaten then it is likely that the day trippers will not be happy !

and agree with hippie, world cup will throw up several top manager changes

Feb 26, 2014 -- 12:17PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:

It's too late to do anything this season, the campaign is a write off, so i don't think he'll be sacked now. I think he'll be backed in the summer and we'll see a huge overhaul of their squad. Vidic, Rio, Evra, RVP, Valencia, Cleverley, Hernandez, Anderson, Buttner, Kagawa will likely all leave. And if results aren't good in August/September then he'll be sacked. I'd be very surprised if it's sooner than that.

Imo this is a reason to sack him now.

Earlier in the season I was kinda in the camp give him until then end of the season, then replace him if he doesn't achieve x goals. But those goals are so far away now that we honestly have nothing to lose by just sacking him now.

Sacking him now comes with the advantage of we can start the look for the next manager now, have a proper process, and have the new guy come in at the end of the season in full control.

Whoever we would get as an interim doesn't really matter tbh, the season's as good as over.

I am skeptical of this news though, I won't start believing it until the price totally crashes or confirmation comes through.

United just recently announced record turnover and sponsorship deals so i think they can probably afford to go a year or 2 without CL football. The problem with that is obviously the longer they're out of it, the harder it'll be to attract top signings and get back into it.

Bring back Eric Djemba Djemba I say.

What has Moyes done to deserve a £200m transfer budget this summer. Do you believe he is the right guy to overhaul the squad? We're talking about a guy here who paid £27.5m for Fellaini and doesn't play him, and £37.1m for Mata to play him out of position on the wing.

Well i don't believe he was the right manager in the first place so no he's probably not the man to overhaul the squad. However he is there, he is 'the chosen one' as that ridiculous banner states and i think Fergie and the Glazers will back him.

As for getting rid now and getting an interim boss in, if the season is as good as over then what's the point of getting an interim manager in? They can still search for a new manager whilst Moyes is in charge. Otherwise they have to pay Moyes off and then pay an interim boss who the players will know won't be there next season.

i think they will stick with him for next season, he'll get a chance to rebuild but i would be surprised if they accept another year like this

i hope he stays for 5 years, i can see them in the championship .....

It becomes difficult to publicly search for a new manager while Moyes is still in the job. Hardly great ethics.

It's not like an interim can come in and screw it up. Moyes is dragging everything about the club down atm, the players, the fans, the atmosphere, at least an interim who the fans like will boost most of these things, so even if the results don't change, morale is boosted going into the next season.

The Glazers are vulnerable and need to convince the New York money men they know what they're doing. If I was a Gordon Gekko type I would be planning my takeover strategy round about now....

The problem with give him £200m to spend theory so he can build his own squad, then if he doesn't make that work sack him. That leaves us in an infinitely worse position than now. We do that, he takes us to 6th or 7th then what? We sack him, and now the next manager probably has an average squad and no money to spend.

I don't see how anyone could possibly see Moyes as having the solutions based on so far. It's been a disaster from day 1, there's no sign of any improvement, any idea he's getting to grips with the job, so why should I believe he can turn it around.

All fair points n88uk and hard to argue with any of that. I don't disagree and as i said i don't think he was the right man in the first place, i'm only saying what i think will happen, not neceesarily what should happen.

He f*cked up on day one by shipping out all of the backroom staff for a start and employing his Everton mates. Then went a whole summer without signing anyone then panicked and overpaid for Fellaini. As someone said months ago on the United thread (probably Pandorica), if you employ methods from your time at Everton, have Everton backroom staff and sign Everton players then chances are you'll finish where Everton did. 6th-7th.

they could ask rafa to come in as the interim manager

Rafa would make them champions again

too busy with the tennis I think