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Biscuit1979
18 Jan 14 17:14
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How do some managers keep getting jobs however skilled they appear to be at wrecking the clubs they manage?

Mark Hughes was a great player but what a terrible manager he appears to be.

Paul Ince likewise.
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Report Mr Spock January 18, 2014 5:19 PM GMT
Alladyce a shocking omission.
Report Mike Bassett England Manager January 18, 2014 5:21 PM GMT
Andre Villas Boas
Report Jimmy Diamond January 18, 2014 5:24 PM GMT
David Moyes

Think AVB is ok actually
Report mesmerised January 18, 2014 5:26 PM GMT
Paul Ince has injuries and suspensions and did a good job with Macclesfield and MKdons

Know what you meant though with the same old failed faces doing the rounds - Mick McCarthy and paul jewell.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 18, 2014 5:28 PM GMT
Paul Ince

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http://izismile.com/2014/01/17/friday_gifdump_30_gifs-26.html
Report Mr Spock January 18, 2014 5:28 PM GMT
Phil Brown
Report tobermory January 18, 2014 5:30 PM GMT
Has Hughes been a bad manager really ?

Wales: Did a good job . Probably should have qualified for Euro 2004 from a tough group ( though screwed it up from a great position by negative approach when on the verge of qualifying) . Still the only one of the last 6 Wales managers to get them in contention.

Blackburn : Did well there , established them a Top 8 side.

City:  Signed Kompany before The Arab takeover . Poor first season . Was looking better 2009/10  , drew several games they dominated .Sacked for being 5th i think midway  ,Mancini did not do much better 2nd half of season, and never started to take off until spent fortunes in the next 3 transfer windows. Overall not terrible, though obviously not good enough the size of club /expectations.

Fulham :Average

QPR: Shocking , no argument there.

Stoke : Average so far .

Overall nothing to rave about but i wouldn't say terrible.
Report 1st time poster January 18, 2014 5:31 PM GMT
be interesting to see what seedorf does as a manager,always rated him miles in front of shearer,hansen etc when doing punditry for the beeb
Report Biscuit1979 January 18, 2014 5:32 PM GMT
Yeah Ince did do well at MK Dons but he ruined it by going back there and failing miserably. Hasn't done anything of note since he left them the first time round.

Phil Brown is doing wonders at Southend now.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 18, 2014 5:32 PM GMT
Mark Hughes is disliked for some reason, he certainly isnt a bad manager.
Report a bitofinterest January 18, 2014 5:33 PM GMT
MEGSON
Report 1st time poster January 18, 2014 5:34 PM GMT
most managers spend years looking for good defenders and a good defensive set up,hughes inherited one at stoke and has managed to turn them into a pub back 4 at times
Report TexassportsagentBuzz January 18, 2014 5:35 PM GMT
John facking Sitton,
Report TexassportsagentBuzz January 18, 2014 5:35 PM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDIMWpcKqI
Report Biscuit1979 January 18, 2014 5:41 PM GMT
Tobermory - so basically the last time Hughes had any kind of success was 6 years ago?

At City he spent an absolute fortune buying the likes of Robinho, Kompany, Zabaleta, SWP, Adebayor, Tevez, Kolo toure, Lescott, de Jong, Bridge, Barry, Santa Cruz.......and did nothing with them.
Report tobermory January 18, 2014 5:48 PM GMT
It's fair to say the first half of his CV is a lot better than the 2nd and that Blackburn was his last undisputed success.

City did improve a lot while he was there , not enough to justify the expenditure . I thought they were going the right way though , and were at least contenders for Top 4 . I don't think  City were much better after 16-18 months of Mancini than they were when Hughes left.

I think he has mostly been average since , and i do think Stoke is his last chance at this level.
Report kenilworth January 18, 2014 6:06 PM GMT
It's all about the players he inherits, no manager can
turn a poor side into a good side, unless given a good
period of time to do so. Arguably the greatest of all,
took 4 years to win a trophy.
Report morpteh mackem January 18, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
les reed
Report tobermory January 18, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
Les Reed doesn't keep getting jobs though far as i know
Report TexassportsagentBuzz January 18, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
Who knows how many of those City players Hughes wanted
Report mesmerised January 18, 2014 7:10 PM GMT
Danny Wilson
Bryan Robson
Avram Grant

and the day of them all

Sven Goran Erikkson
Report brngtwt January 18, 2014 7:14 PM GMT
Owen Coyle,living off the fact he got Burnley promoted and the total myth his teams play "good" football.
Report NeilM1 January 18, 2014 8:21 PM GMT
Owen Coyle - has the players in 2 hours a day, an hour of which is spent playing table tennis. Baffling to say the least.
Report throwthetellyoutawindow January 18, 2014 8:30 PM GMT
^^^^^ can't believe that Owen Coyle excellent in Scottish Prem with St. Johnstone and with Burnley think it went wrong after Fab Muamba incident never recovered from that episode.
Report JOCI Club January 18, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
Since 2005 Arsene Wenger has regressed considerably as a manager.
Report MysticMug January 18, 2014 8:35 PM GMT
Michael Appleton wins, completely useless in every job he's had
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 18, 2014 8:39 PM GMT
good call mm
Report fleetingglimpse January 18, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
Gordon strachan , ffs
Report brngtwt January 18, 2014 9:14 PM GMT
There's a great chapter on the manager merry go round and why it is destined to fail in the Soccernomics book.
The book itself is hit or miss but the chapter about managers is spot on.
Report desperatemunter January 18, 2014 11:15 PM GMT
john sillet
Report JC1326 January 19, 2014 12:24 AM GMT
Chris Hughton a shocking omission. I'd take Hughes over him any day. If the Norwich owners are reading this, if you have to go British, Mackay or Pearson of Leicester would be my picks. But I think you need to scour Europe for the foreign Paul Lambert.
Report Geesyerdosh January 19, 2014 12:39 AM GMT
Alex McLeish.

Right lads 4 in defence, 5 sat 10 yards in front with the forward 70 yards away, any player passing to a teammate will be fined, keep the ball in the air, launch it any chance you get and lets pray for a 0-0.
Report Biscuit1979 January 21, 2014 3:04 PM GMT
Ince sacked.

Which club will be next on his ever increasing list of failures?
Report smithy91 January 22, 2014 7:29 AM GMT
Great post Tobermory on mark hughes I'm a blackburn fan worked wonders on a tight budget for us  he also started citys revolution off by signing zabeleta and kompany!
Report steview84 January 22, 2014 12:39 PM GMT
graeme souness and roy keane, absolute garbage and now spouting off their tripe on itv, the single worst channel for sport in the uk.  the darts coverage is utter sh!te
Report stu January 22, 2014 1:43 PM GMT
One that could be a strong contender:

Chris Hutchings

Managed a few decent clubs for some reason without ever showing aptitude to manage a club.
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