***MATCH FIXING IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE***

Wonder if they "allege" involvement of Chopra?

Check 3-1 and 4-0 results this month in the conference

Wonder if its to do with bookings and red cards seeing as no one gives them out these days when its a SKY tv game....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10479667/Football-match-fixing-six-arrested-by-police-investigating-betting-syndicate-as-rigging-hits-British-game.html

that explains my losers

can i get a spread on how many floodlight failures there will be in the pl this season?

The FA have done next to nothing with measures to prevent match fixings so hardly a surprise. They are too busy counting their money.

i hopr gruce gropular isnt involved.

The identities of the teams involved cannot be disclosed for legal reasons... However, they are not Premier League sides.

"Earlier this month, Nick Garlic, a senior official at Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, criticised the Football Association’s commitment to tackling corruption and said he believed match fixers had worked in Britain."

Delroy Facey scored 73 goals in 444 games as a striker and he has been accused of paying players to concede goals on purpose

smells a bit iffy to me

Fixes happen almost daily....since when does David Moyes send a team out that can score 5 goals ffs

The identities of the teams involved cannot be disclosed for legal reasons... However, they obviously include Accrington

How many would he of got if he didn't pay them

Nov 27, 2013 -- 11:06PM, Crisp77 wrote:

How many would he of got if he didn't pay them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WvXxNYF8tI

matt le tissier

a few admitted it but nothing done

Thread title is a bit misleading, that Telegraph article doesn't mention premier league matches being fixed, it only refers to lower league and conference games.

Aldershot town or Lincoln City in the conference. If its a league 2 side it can only be Mansfield.

Do any of these sides have 3 ex premiership players???

OP nowhere does it say the 3 players were ex premiership players

just do up the scores in the conference of 3-1 and 4-0 losses for the month of November and theres only 2/3 possible clubs.

On Wednesday night police were willing to confirm privately that it was only Premier League clubs that they could be sure were not involved in the unfolding scandal.

A Football Association spokesman said: "The FA has been made aware of a an NCA investigation and they believe there was 4-0 arrested"

It'll be all those Conference games where there was 5-6 teams which the bookies removed, there was an article on the BBC about one game between 2 lower league sides where there was half a million matched on the asians, which was more than the Barcelona La Liga game that day!

'none were linked to professional clubs' - on the bbc site - does that narrow it down -are conference clubs professional?

Most Conference clubs are professional these days.

thanks DB

Am I missing something, because in the video he's talking about goals scored, you'd have to have pretty much the entirety of both teams in on it to achieve that, and even then it would be hard to do without it looking very very iffy.

Me thinks I'm missing something too, except for media hyperbole. Telegraph claims it's the biggest match-fixing scandal for decades. Really? Semi-pro teams at best less than 20 years after Brucie and Hans Segers, etc, were done.

Those videos make it look as if the "fixer" is going to sting the "mark". They must have more/better evidence than that.

Nov 28, 2013 -- 12:28AM, duffy wrote:

Am I missing something, because in the video he's talking about goals scored, you'd have to have pretty much the entirety of both teams in on it to achieve that, and even then it would be hard to do without it looking very very iffy.

just one of the defences/keeper to let them in imo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24363625

Its was all this stuff that was in the news. If they've arrested them now then the investigation will have stemmed from this. They cant arrest them when they're sitting in Singapore but they nap them at the airport when they got back here!

Unscrupulous individuals wait for the players after games, offer 5-10k to make sure a games goes one way or anther. Thats a lot of money to players at this level.

You can get 10's of thousands on these games on the asian bookies. It was similar to the Finnish betting scandal where they tapped up a club (ROPS i think it was) and they were just betting hundreds of thousands on their games.

Who in their right mind lays 10s of thousands of pounds at that level though without thinking hmmm, this fella might know something!?

so you've got one defender who is actively doing his bit to concede goals...fair enough, how can he ensure the result ends up being 2-2 or 3-1.

he takes the suitcase of cash and speaks to 5 or 6 of his buddy's

thats my theory

its easy to sit here and judge but im sure many "gamblers" here would chew their hand right off!

I think in the video he was just on about there was at least 4 goals and wasn't too bothered who got them

Look,

If you are a professional player playing in a top league, why on earth would you take a bung to chuck a game?  You have far too much to lose long term.  You could be dropped, missing out win bonuses, your transfer value decreases etc.

At conference level, it's a different story.  I am certain players are at it or have been at it for some time.

Billericay, for example, love goals

7/7 Waltham Forest    W    5-2
31/7 Enfield Town    W    7-0
11/8 Leiston             L    2-4
21/8 Hayes & Yeading    L    2-4
4/9 Tonbridge Angel    D    3-3
8/9 Eastleigh       W    4-0   
11/9 Bishop's Stort    D    2-2
22/9 AFC Hornchurch     W    3-1
29/9 Basingstoke Town    L    1-3   
9/10 Cambridge City    L    2-4
13/10 Dorchester Town    W    3-1   
16/10 AFC Hornchurch    D    3-3   
23/10 Chesham United    L    2-3       
27/10 Havant & Water    W    3-1

etc etc

I never forgot that court case with the calcio scommense (italian serie b betting scandal) where one of the suspects told a italian jorno

"If they take money and they not win .... we just have to kill them"



Billericay Town, once you take that suitcase you better make sure there's 6 goals!

I prefer clean sports like cricket

BBC NEWS24 Report:

"NONE of the teams involved play in the Top FOUR DIVISIONS of English football."

This is the main reason why they need to introduce video technology and monitor referees bank accounts very closely.

Billericay Dicky

On FiveLive earlier: Leagues in south east Europe, high level German games, even Champions league. NOT any top English leagues. Goal markets targeted.

The guy Talks to players on Sat and asks how many goals you can give, only interested in 4 or 5. Now how the hell could 1 or 2 players know they will manage to get 4 or 5 goals? Surely that would have to involve all players in both teams? The so called fixer is not bribing both teams only 1 or 2 players within. You go figure.

their was more money matched on Billericay fixture, than Barcelona match on the same day,says it all

Totally inept thread title

Broomwagon, in the article it mentions this:

"The fixer asked us for €60,000 [£50,000], which he said was to cover the cost of paying the players"

I doubt that cash is just for 1 or 2 players, probably shared out between the team.

The news I watched last night said it would cost £70,000 to pay all the players in one team, and the fact that they "only" earn £5,000 a month, makes it very likely that a lot of them would be tempted in earning  £7,000 for two hours work. They referred to the Conference league by name. These bets are placed at Asian bookies, usually illegal ones, but they can bet in millions, so paying £70,000 to fix a match would be peanuts to them.

Was a Billericay player yellow carded at the start of the game?

As someone said earlier you wonder how some of these asian bookies make money.

First you get the spot fixing in cricket. Now if you're a bookie and someone came to you and said i want 300k that so and so will bowl a no ball in the 6th over, would you take that bet? Or would you think, hang on a sec, perhaps this bloke might just know something.

Likewise if some dodgy bloke from Singapore came to you and said i want 250k that Hyde v Nuneaton (for example) will be over 4.5 surely it'd set alarm bells ringing somewhere.

Why do they take these bets?

A very good question, Biscuit.

Wouldn't they split the bet up between numerous bookies?

Even if they split it between 100 bookies, the question still applies, why would any of them take a bet on something that would only be bet on if the punter had inside knowledge.

If a guy from Singapore goes to an asian bookie and wants cash on a high goals market in an English non league game, you'd surely be asking yourself, why? It's not Barca v Real!

The spot fixing in cricket is worse though. Why would anyone take a bet on a no ball in a particluar over. Ridiculous bet that wold only be punted on if someone knew something.

Nov 28, 2013 -- 11:36AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:

Even if they split it between 100 bookies, the question still applies, why would any of them take a bet on something that would only be bet on if the punter had inside knowledge.If a guy from Singapore goes to an asian bookie and wants cash on a high goals market in an English non league game, you'd surely be asking yourself, why? It's not Barca v Real!The spot fixing in cricket is worse though. Why would anyone take a bet on a no ball in a particluar over. Ridiculous bet that wold only be punted on if someone knew something.

Not sure the spot fixing is as clear as betting on a no ball. The bowlers were using signs to show when they were about to bowl a no ball, etc. If you knew the signs you could make a fortune on here just trading the ensuing odd changes on the match odds market. It would barely be noticeable when upwards of £20m is traded on an IPL match.

Spot fixing can include betting on no balls though, i'm sure it comes down to betting on when one will be bowled. Bit like betting on when the first throw in or corner will be in football

Sounds like someone has just outed a competitor to me.

Doubt it. This guy has been arrested in Finland before.

Some shocking accusations on here. I have spoken to Billericay goalkeeper and he will get on here to protect his good name.

I'm just waiting for him to get back from his holiday in Barbados. Should not be too long because he can take his brand new Porsche Turbo from the airport to rush home and post.

WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING NAUGHTY ,SOONER OR LATER IT CATCHES UP WITH YOU

what i dont get here is that why the match fixer tells the reporter whatever he is telling?

Nov 28, 2013 -- 10:12AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:

As someone said earlier you wonder how some of these asian bookies make money. First you get the spot fixing in cricket. Now if you're a bookie and someone came to you and said i want 300k that so and so will bowl a no ball in the 6th over, would you take that bet? Or would you think, hang on a sec, perhaps this bloke might just know something.Likewise if some dodgy bloke from Singapore came to you and said i want 250k that Hyde v Nuneaton (for example) will be over 4.5 surely it'd set alarm bells ringing somewhere.Why do they take these bets?

these bookies take bets like that all the time in asia i'd imagine. most of them aren't dodgy and a bet that size wouldn't be a once-off

in the over 4.5 example i mean, not the no ball in 6th over example

In the murky world of Asian betting it's not unknown for the bookmakers to employ fixers as well to get one over their big hitters who are betting in millions per bet.

Nov 28, 2013 -- 2:53PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:

In the murky world of Asian betting it's not unknown for the bookmakers to employ fixers as well to get one over their big hitters who are betting in millions per bet.

Or even make up totally fictitious fixtures!

cambridge utd v forest green from 3 seasons ago...

loads of money staked on HT FT market, and a home win

RESULT...HT 0-1 FT 2-1

still nothing done about that match to this day as far as im aware

Salisbury FC has scored/conceded a few this month......

No smoke without fire?

Gary Simpson has revealed he reported a game to the Football Association because he suspected it had been fixed.

"I was involved in a game, I don't want to say where it was, but there were two penalties given against us. I was told there had been an irregular betting pattern on it during the game and before the game.

"I flagged that up. We heard from the authorities that it was correct and there had been an irregular betting pattern in the game.

"We lost the game and we ended up having a player sent off. To this day it's the only game I have been involved in where I have thought there was something wrong. This was not while I was at Lincoln City."

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2880/england/2013/11/28/4440109/lincoln-boss-reported-match-fixing-suspicion

presumably it's this game:

http://uk.soccerway.com/matches/2011/11/25/england/league-two/barnet-fc/macclesfield-town-fc/1119308/

someone filmed the two penalties:

http://youtu.be/_inUA7ILI6c
http://youtu.be/OjWS-8O4XvQ

A match between these same two teams was the subject of a "fix" discussion on here 10 months earlier:

http://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/26672621/barnetmacclesfield-htft?sort_order=ASC

penalty involved again:

http://uk.soccerway.com/matches/2011/01/22/england/league-two/macclesfield-town-fc/barnet-fc/945841/

Now look at this fellas tweets on November 7 this year where he's trying to tell anyone that will listen about fixed match details being sold on Facebook:

https://twitter.com/PatHargreaves1

The game he was trying to highlight:

http://uk.soccerway.com/matches/2013/10/17/england/conference-national/macclesfield-town-fc/southport-fc/1507448/

Coincidence?