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World Cup qualifier played Wednesday 16th, the draw is 8/11 in places.
A point is good enough for both teams to qualify.
A point is good enough for both teams to qualify.
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Chile are a dark horse, they drew away to Brazil and were only a minute away from beating Spain last month.
However i think their style of play will ultimately see them undone in defence.
However i think their style of play will ultimately see them undone in defence.
England will be cruelly exposed in the Brazil World Cup , the travelling , the temperatures , the humidity ,altitude AND the long EPL season for the squad all stack up against England , realistically Quarter finals is the best they could hope for , hope I'm wrong , but i doubt it
Oct 16, 2013 -- 1:26AM, nicky27 wrote:
England will be cruelly exposed in the Brazil World Cup , the travelling , the temperatures , the humidity ,altitude AND the long EPL season for the squad all stack up against England , realistically Quarter finals is the best they could hope for , hope I'm wrong , but i doubt it
And they always play crap in tournaments. I would rather they played every one like the game tonight - I could forgive them some losses for some entertainment !
Oct 16, 2013 -- 1:26AM, nicky27 wrote:
England will be cruelly exposed in the Brazil World Cup , the travelling , the temperatures , the humidity ,altitude AND the long EPL season for the squad all stack up against England , realistically Quarter finals is the best they could hope for , hope I'm wrong , but i doubt it
The 'long EPL season' is just an excuse.
Italia '90 was their best chance , england need a winter world cup to have any chance at all , Qatar 2022 might be held in the European winter i heard , EPL season and european cup runs must have an effect on some of the squad
Oct 16, 2013 -- 1:34AM, nicky27 wrote:
Italia '90 was their best chance , england need a winter world cup to have any chance at all , Qatar 2022 might be held in the European winter i heard , EPL season and european cup runs must have an effect on some of the squad
Still going with that 'long EPL season' idea?
Some big towers being traded on Chile. Not often you see 100k lumps eaten at 2am.
It doesn't seem to happen that much, but there's still been times that a draw has been a pretty convenient result for the sides involved and the odds have reflected it. I seem to remember the odds on the draw being odds on, and the 0-0 being quoted as short as 6/4 in places in a Champion's League game between Arsenal and Porto(?) I think it was where a draw would have seen them both qualify for the knockout phase.
It surprised me at the time to see it being banded around in a Champions League game, much like it does in these types of games, and for the majority of the match both sides went for it all guns blazing, I remember a fair few great saves and at one or two points the woodwork was well and truly left shaking, IF it was set from the off to be a 0-0, then it was the luckiest case of a "Fixed score" I'd ever seen.
The thing I do remember the most from that game though is that the last 10 minutes of the match were dull... extremely dull... and the game petered out to finish 0-0, and both teams got the point they needed. I did question whether or not it would have been a different last 10 minutes had one of those chances been converted, but I can safely say that for most of the game both sides really went for it. I wouldn't rule out the draw here, laying the draw was a great move by the guys that have done it. I am also happy at being able to trade out on the Any Unquoted in the other game, but I'm happy now to have a small investment in the draw here based on the beliefs before the game
It surprised me at the time to see it being banded around in a Champions League game, much like it does in these types of games, and for the majority of the match both sides went for it all guns blazing, I remember a fair few great saves and at one or two points the woodwork was well and truly left shaking, IF it was set from the off to be a 0-0, then it was the luckiest case of a "Fixed score" I'd ever seen.
The thing I do remember the most from that game though is that the last 10 minutes of the match were dull... extremely dull... and the game petered out to finish 0-0, and both teams got the point they needed. I did question whether or not it would have been a different last 10 minutes had one of those chances been converted, but I can safely say that for most of the game both sides really went for it. I wouldn't rule out the draw here, laying the draw was a great move by the guys that have done it. I am also happy at being able to trade out on the Any Unquoted in the other game, but I'm happy now to have a small investment in the draw here based on the beliefs before the game
agree with you CJ , massive lumps trading on the 1.0x Chile , wouldn't want to be a heavy backer at those odds if somehow Ecuador score next
We saw a similar pattern with the Italian games last season. Games that were mutually beneficial were traded on expectation rather than reality, over half of them landed, however. I wouldn't rule out a draw here if the other game goes crazy.
Oct 16, 2013 -- 1:49AM, wisewords wrote:
why exactly would Chile let Ecuador have a draw?
Free holiday around the Galapagas Islands ?
nervy half hour coming up for Lumpy Chile backers @ 1.0x prices
Uruguay are doing everything but scoring as well.
Backed the draw here @ 18, and still got a decent return on the Any Unquoted over in the other match if the hosts score one more, glad I stayed up to see how the "Fixed game" would unfold
Backed the draw here @ 18, and still got a decent return on the Any Unquoted over in the other match if the hosts score one more, glad I stayed up to see how the "Fixed game" would unfold
You never know if the people piling in with cash know something or are just playing guessing games like the rest of us in these situations.
my best result is a Chile win , but won't be too disappointed with any other result, this match certainly hasn't been contrived so far
it's not a fix at all, chile just relaxed at 2-0 up because they are through. will finish 3-1 chile.
they wouldn't have nearly scored a 3rd hitting the post with a header if they wanted a draw.
still 3 goal difference between Ecuador and Uruguay in the table currently
The thing is if you are playing for a draw you can play normally and still contrive a result, there was a cracking game in the Czech league a few weeks ago where Znojmo had a 5-5 draw.
so by that theory, it could be 2-2 3-3 4-4 etc CJ. This match doesn't look dodgy so far to me though.
Rekon a good chance off a late one here , probably Uruguay, after 80 mins
There's no pattern I can see apart from the dodgy odds/values either, ww
Just backed over 6.5 in Uruguay @ 7, realistically they will need a couple more at least to think they are in with a shout before Ecuador score late on 
it hasn't looked a dodgy match in the slightest so why was the draw matched as low as 1.67 on betfair before the start.
cos a draw would guarantee both teams automatic qualification obviously
game has been played at a good tempo throughout , no fix whatsoever , if this games ends up 2-2 it was just by accident , not design imho
It doesn't need to end 2-2 by design atm. If there's 6 mins of injury time and 5 goals in Montevideo, I'll call suss ;)
chile trying to give it away but EQ so useless they can't pick the ball up
2-1 FT
are there issues to be settled in the CONCACAF games that kick off @ 2.30 ? or is that group all settled ?
are there issues to be settled in the CONCACAF games that kick off @ 2.30 ? or is that group all settled ?
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, that last chance was THE chance for the draw, well done layers
Knob - they have him the ball in the box he just had to find the target - I reckon it's a fix gone wrong - seriously
I think Panama need to win & Mexico lose to have any effect in the later games.
Oct 16, 2013 -- 2:24AM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
isnt Mexico the bet of the night?
just need to draw for play-off
But they could qualify automatically with a win.
Oct 16, 2013 -- 2:26AM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
But they could qualify automatically with a win.
just if Honduras lose
Honduras need to lose to Jamaica for Mexico to qualify outright and Jamaica haven't won a game so far.
Oct 16, 2013 -- 2:25AM, nicky27 wrote:
that last chance
Yeah - I reckon Chile were happy to give it away but apart from scoring an own goal they couldn't really do much else?
I think a really good bet is a draw in all three games. Would suit most of the better teams.
mexico look like playing New zealand in the play offs , how the hell have Mexico finished behind Honduras , Costa Rica and Usa ??
Jamaica - Honduras 0-0
Panama - USA 1-3
Costa Rica - Mexico 1-2 ( Red Card shown )
That's my predictions
Panama - USA 1-3
Costa Rica - Mexico 1-2 ( Red Card shown )
That's my predictions
im in new zealand,i can tell you all we not excited about playing mexico aye
would prefer someone else but none would be easy........panama 1 nil
just seen that australia are in the asian group , that don't make sense
Jordan played yesterday in an asian qualification match at home and drew 0-0 against Oman.
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