Ridic good lay

25s now. Still a great lay.

Why are people trying to back this??? They must not have read the market rules. The price should be like bigger than 1000/1

9.4 available....take it

Some of them could easily score first though? Or am I missing something

Anyone would think you were the one putting the money up.

Surely not eh? ;)

If you lay None of the above....then as long as any of the players listed scores then you win. It doesn't matter if they don't score first in their respective, the market states that it is the first amongst them to score will be settled as a winner. The price of ALL of the players listed NOT to score anytime is HUGE. So laying at 9.4 which is available now is unbelievable value.

Tbh that is fantastic value.

The people trying to back it at 9.4 and above obviously have not read the rules!!!

Which begs the question - why are you not hoovering all this up?

Good find. Had a bit.

laying the 'None of Above to score ' selection is basically saying ALL of the players listed will not score at anytime

sorry i mean BACKING the 'None of Above to score ' selection is basically saying ALL of the players listed will not score at anytime

np Cj70. got on myself before posting here for you

up into the 20's now

10.5 again now!

Price should be 33,000/1.

provided they all start.

Why on earth should it be 33,000 to 1? It's likely a couple will score and some point but it's by no means guaranteed.  Think 10-1 is fair.

If you think it should be over 1000/1 can I have some 100/1 please?

Because 33,000/1 is the inverse price of at least one of the players scoring at anytime based on their current price to score a goal at anytime.

you seriously think that that group of players not scoring is a 33,000/1 shot? 

Care to share this calculation?

Get all the players listed prices to score anytime. Divide 1 by each of these decimal prices. This is the % chance of them scoring. Now, subtract 1 - this %. This is the % chance of them not scoring. Get the product of all these and once you get this the price is therefore 1 divided by this product. Works out to about 33,000/1.

It's laughable you think 10/1 is fair. You have no knowledge of what the market is. If you lay the 'none of above to score' selection, provided any of the players score at anytime you win.

Actually 10/1 is probably a bad price to back - but it's a million miles closer than 33,000 to 1

It's not Java. Basic maths.

The market IMO is under the impression that if for example a goalkeeper scores a goal in the first second of a 3pm game then the None of the above selection will be settled as a winner. This is not the case.

Something's gone wrong with your calculation I'm afraid.  The multiple on the Spurs v Norwich five players not scoring is about 6-1.

For example, Soldado is evens to score, therefore evens not to score.  Van Wolf is 4-1 to score therefore 1/4 not to score.  So odds of Soldado and Van Wolf not scoring = 6/4 - agreed?

Spot on java...now depending on the anytime prices you give to each player....do that for the whole market.

ok - hold on.  Will take me a little while

depending on the anytime prices you use the price will prob be anywhere between 18,000 - 40,000

my apologies you are correct.  I took very approximate prices and even then got to 9,000-1

no worries. it is a confusing one in fairness. i see someone took the 10's on offer there....still a lay at 20's is still value!

so lay at 25-1 (for the sake of argument), and you'd need about 18 of the players not to start before it wasn't value

haha yes! pretty sick.

Looks the best lay in history unless we are missing something.

well done - good spot.

Who keeps trying to back this at 8-1 !?

I've read the rules again and again. If the market is settled to the rules as written this is very close to free money territory.

I've topped up a bit more.

read **bet of saturday** thread, that's why people are backing it, they haven't read/understood the rules correctly

Haha hilarious! I see the market is moving out correctly now although people are still trying to back it at 1000. If I had the Bank I'd be laying everything at 1,000. #ValueTown

Idiots trying to back it at 18, 22 and 24....fill your boots people!

Giroud.

Paid out like a dream. Cheers once more.

i laid this bet last week at 4.2 lol everyone is confused by this.