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The moment that Crystal Palace got promoted the two games that I had them down as winning were Spurs and Liverpool at home. Last season ended on very different note for these sides. Palace won promotion at Wembley whilst Spurs missed out on the Champions League after only winning five of their last ten games, blowing the lead they had over Arsenal.
Crystal Palace were favourites to be relegated from the Championship last season which proved to be wrong and again they have been written off as having no chance. Towards the end of last season they looked as though they learnt how to defend under pressure and being a Holloway team they’ll always pose a threat going forward.
The statistics for these two teams pose some interesting questions, especially regarding the team news;
Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace have only lost 13 of their last 69 home league games
Crystal Palace have kept 4 clean sheets in the last 5 games
Gareth Bale & Spurs 2012/13
Directly affected over 30% of the games he played in
He scored almost 32% of Spurs goals last season
When his 9 assists are added to his 21 goals he was involved in over 45% of Spurs goals
Spurs won 4 of their 10 games without Bale last season (all comps.)
Spurs away at odds on
Of the last 14 games they’ve played away from home at odd-on they’ve won 6, drawn 4 and lost 4
Last time they played away from home without Gareth Bale at odds on (1.80) they lost 3-1 at Blackpool
A lot is being made about the loss of Glenn Murray and Wilfred Zaha for Crystal Palace. Glenn Murray is a obviously a big loss, he was responsible for 41% of gaols, but with Chamakh and Dwight Gayle I feel they have signed two players who will score and create this season. The Zaha move is being overblown in my opinion, he’s a very good player and he has the potential to be one of the worlds best. However this belief that he scored or created basically every Palace goal is wrong. He scored six goals and provided ten assists in his 43 league games last season. That equates to 23% of goals scored, which when compared to the 45% that Bale contributed it’s easy to see who the bigger loss is. Well statistically anyway.
For anyone who enjoys historical stats here are a few that support the ‘Palace can get a result’ argument;
Palace have scored more Premier League goals (10) against Spurs than they have against any other side
Palace have only lost 1 of the last 6 against Spurs
Spurs have only won 2 of their last 12 opening games
Spurs should be favourites and comfortable ones at that, however with Palace’s home form tied in with the whole Gareth Bale and Spurs situation I would price Spurs at 1.90. That price is giving Spurs a 52.5% chance of winning this, however the current odds give them a 56% chance.
LAY SPURS 1.79
via http://www.cherryanalysts.co.uk/2013/crystal-palace-v-tottenham/
Crystal Palace were favourites to be relegated from the Championship last season which proved to be wrong and again they have been written off as having no chance. Towards the end of last season they looked as though they learnt how to defend under pressure and being a Holloway team they’ll always pose a threat going forward.
The statistics for these two teams pose some interesting questions, especially regarding the team news;
Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace have only lost 13 of their last 69 home league games
Crystal Palace have kept 4 clean sheets in the last 5 games
Gareth Bale & Spurs 2012/13
Directly affected over 30% of the games he played in
He scored almost 32% of Spurs goals last season
When his 9 assists are added to his 21 goals he was involved in over 45% of Spurs goals
Spurs won 4 of their 10 games without Bale last season (all comps.)
Spurs away at odds on
Of the last 14 games they’ve played away from home at odd-on they’ve won 6, drawn 4 and lost 4
Last time they played away from home without Gareth Bale at odds on (1.80) they lost 3-1 at Blackpool
A lot is being made about the loss of Glenn Murray and Wilfred Zaha for Crystal Palace. Glenn Murray is a obviously a big loss, he was responsible for 41% of gaols, but with Chamakh and Dwight Gayle I feel they have signed two players who will score and create this season. The Zaha move is being overblown in my opinion, he’s a very good player and he has the potential to be one of the worlds best. However this belief that he scored or created basically every Palace goal is wrong. He scored six goals and provided ten assists in his 43 league games last season. That equates to 23% of goals scored, which when compared to the 45% that Bale contributed it’s easy to see who the bigger loss is. Well statistically anyway.
For anyone who enjoys historical stats here are a few that support the ‘Palace can get a result’ argument;
Palace have scored more Premier League goals (10) against Spurs than they have against any other side
Palace have only lost 1 of the last 6 against Spurs
Spurs have only won 2 of their last 12 opening games
Spurs should be favourites and comfortable ones at that, however with Palace’s home form tied in with the whole Gareth Bale and Spurs situation I would price Spurs at 1.90. That price is giving Spurs a 52.5% chance of winning this, however the current odds give them a 56% chance.
LAY SPURS 1.79
via http://www.cherryanalysts.co.uk/2013/crystal-palace-v-tottenham/
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well Holloways tactics are clearer now anyway - no Blackpool kamikaze football, instead a rock-solid 3-man midfield working like maniacs to protect that weak back 4.
I disagree Rhino. I think once Sandro is back they have a really strong front 6. Paulinho & Sandro with Dembele, Lennon and Chadli behind Soldado is as good as most teams in top league. Just so far today they haven't clicked at all. All very buying an in the box striker like soldado but he needs them to actually create chances
Spurs are a poor side.. all very poor indecisive pedestrian stuff
it depends where arsenal finish, if arsenal finish 17th spurs are guaranteed to be relegated
Can't see them improving happy, can only see them going backwards.
As a Palace man all my life I have to say it's not that easy on the eye but if we can get a draw or an improbable win it would be a great start for us in what is going to be a relegation scrap from early doors.
ok lads, not been able to watch-2nd half goals or bookings? Or sweet FA?
Hmm agree to disagree mate. Soldado will get 20 plus goals I think and Dembele is one of the best players in the league for me
Would be nice to see Defoe paired with Soldado quite soon.
Think all Palace games should be on a Sunday
As they look like a pub team.
As they look like a pub team.
yeah not exactly pretty from Palace but you have to admire how hard Jedinak and Dikgacoi have worked, theres no slacking off in that midfield
I just ain't a huge fan of Sigurdsson. Think he had a great 6 months at swansea but it's never happened for him at Spurs and would much prefer to see Dembele further forward or Defoe paired with Soldado
agree about Dembele,class player...spurs midfield to slow to release quicker ball imo
spurs haven't played much better aside from the opening 5 minutes
Hmm agree to disagree mate. Soldado will get 20 plus goals I think and Dembele is one of the best players in the league for me
couldn't agree more
couldn't agree more
palace do actually have talent on the bench too, wonder if they will use it or whether Holloway will keep it defensive
Turning out to be the bannana skin we feared for Spurs. News guys gunna need time and the guy who scored or assisted 45% of their goals last year doen`t want to play for em anymore innit..
Too early to write em off obv but If I were a Spurs backer I`d be dead grateful that they`re still odds-on and bail out for a small loss now..
Too early to write em off obv but If I were a Spurs backer I`d be dead grateful that they`re still odds-on and bail out for a small loss now..
Think it was clear from Playoff semi and final that Holloway was going to be as defensive as possible and try to nick results. Can't blame him really but would like to see Spurs just press a bit more and move the ball quicker. All been a bit predictable thus far
SPURS SPENT £60 MILL = SHJIT
ARSENAL SPEND £0 = SHJIT
YOU DO THE MATH
ARSENAL SPEND £0 = SHJIT
YOU DO THE MATH
If Michael dawson dribbles the ball out from the back any slower before he plays that diagonal ball.. he might find himself falling asleep
WHY ARE SOUNESS AND THAT BANKING ON PALACE GETTING TIRED
cmon lets have chamakh on, he cant be any worse than wilbraham can he? 
On him anytime and in my dream team that was a big moment
top draw penalty kick. Wonder if that silly fecker from Stoke was watching.
Williams, Phillips, Chamakh or Campana on please Mr Holloway
Think he will keep it the same till 20 to go then chuck another striker on
Might be a good lesson for Palace - play for a draw = lose
cant see how holloway can loosen up the tactics until he sorts out that dodgy defensive line, the defenders he has just arent good enough
wilbraham sometimes looks half decent until he gets a sight of goal
Strange sub for me. Dembele has been one of their best players but takes him off?
Spurs are gonna throw this away. Theyve stopped playing.
i cant even see where palace will get 10 goals all season from
their best attacking players are all on the bench, this palace starting line up has been all about protecting the back 4
here we go, williams, phillips, chamakh - kamikaze time
here we go, williams, phillips, chamakh - kamikaze time
Spurs need to get a second to kill this off or they might regret it
I think Spurs will make chances on the break last 20. I aint convinced they will take them tho
He's been poor all game couldn't understand how he stayed on when AVB made the sub
No chance when they're 1 up it looks like its what we have we hold job
totally different game now, palace leaving gaps at the back but actually have some movement and ability up front
Not sure if AVB sees Sigurdsson as a long term starter but if he does then Spurs will suffer as a result
chamakh so much more mobile than wilbraham, no idea why holloway started with wilbraham, match fitness is the only reason i can think of
damn that was an iniesta-like turn by phillips there... shame his pace has gone
defoe really showing the palace defenders weakness - total lack of pace and mobility
yeah different game since the palace subs, looks like a proper football match now
real shame Holloway started so negative, do people now understand why I was so depressed when I saw that lineup?
this is much more like it
this is much more like it
Phew. Just about broke even with the win. Dont think i'll be rushing to back spurs anytime soon though.
I'm sure I'll get called a clueless mug now for laying a side at odds-on who won with a penalty
hey ho
hey ho
Decent 3 points miles from their best but need to play a lot better than that v the top 8 sides
The clueless mugs ash, are the ones backing at odds on, lay every away sides, when they are odds on and you should make money. Palace did as well, as they could with what they have, but you will have more chances to lay the opposition at Selhurst this season at odds on and they won't all win.
Chadli thinks he is a cross between Glenn Hoddle and David Ginola.. more like a slower version of Kyle Walker
cheers cri****
I was happy enough with the performance, the two big games are next up though with Stoke away and Sunderland at home
4 points from those and we'll be on our way
I was happy enough with the performance, the two big games are next up though with Stoke away and Sunderland at home
4 points from those and we'll be on our way
wtf I thought it was a typo by ash, why is that banned?
so did I at first but obviously not
strange that you can't type c n u t
strange that you can't type c n u t
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