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Playing tonight vs Melbourne Victory  (Aus Time) 

Being reported here that if they all turn up, this will be the biggest crowd the club has played in front of  in its history.

Shirley not? Grin
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Report RafterP1 July 24, 2013 11:36 AM BST
jim beglin has a touch of the redknapps calling suarez a 'little' genius.. he's 6ft tall u idiot
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 11:37 AM BST
This is utter b*llshit. Unsuspend FFS
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:39 AM BST
they have an issue with the market.
Report Snosurf July 24, 2013 11:40 AM BST
Definitely be voided in that case, I've seen it happen before
Report Snosurf July 24, 2013 11:40 AM BST
Particularly now that a goal has happened
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 11:41 AM BST
Oh well thats okay then!!!! I'm positive they will refund any bets!!!!!!
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:41 AM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 11:41AM, In my Opinion wrote:


Oh well thats okay then!!!! I'm positive they will refund any bets!!!!!!


LaughLaughLaugh

Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 11:42 AM BST
Tongue in cheek max ;)
Report RafterP1 July 24, 2013 11:42 AM BST
dont bank on it... this happens all the time with some lower lge european games and they dont always void those markets
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 11:43 AM BST
How much are usually matched on those markets though?
Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 11:43 AM BST
Why would they void it?

I placed my bet pre game and i expect it to stand.
Report minka July 24, 2013 11:45 AM BST
when will BF let us know what is happening?
Report rommel July 24, 2013 11:45 AM BST
its a dunking day today
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:46 AM BST
there is no feed for the game LaughLaughLaugh
Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 11:47 AM BST
is that what they said? Useless c*nts. Tell them to get on firstrow there's about 2 dozen!
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 11:48 AM BST
Biscuit - never going to please everyone. Some trade a sh!t ton during a game, others leave as is. I'm not telling you anything you didnt know obviously.

But the rules state the game is in-play. It isn't. Well not after about 10 mins so should be voided imo
Report RafterP1 July 24, 2013 11:49 AM BST
they havent said anything on twitter so its not been voided
Report Snosurf July 24, 2013 11:49 AM BST
They will void it because it is unfair to people who wanted to trade. I've had that happen on several occasions. You should receive an email like this at some stage in the next few hours:

"Dear xxxx,

One or more of your bets, placed on the market has been voided/lapsed by Betfair. Whilst these bets were all placed in good faith, in order to be fair to all users we have had to void/lapse them."

Betfair is an exchange. Regardless of whether your bet was placed pre-game/ in-play and whether you had the view of trading, or letting your bet stand throughout, the circumstances here are such that in order to be fair to all users, the market has to be voided and all bets refunded. It was a technical error that affected the market.
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 11:49 AM BST
A lot of people wouldnt have got involved if this wasnt in-play, myself included.
Report RafterP1 July 24, 2013 11:49 AM BST
theyve just tweeted this: The Liverpool game is being managed by our team in Hobart, they currently have an issue with the feed which is why the markets are suspended, Until the issues with the feed are rectified, the markets will remain suspended. We hope to have the market reactivated as soon as possible.
Report Joel July 24, 2013 11:50 AM BST
No feed? I assume its in Australian wallet, why don't they turn their tv on channel 73 (on FTA)
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:50 AM BST
@Maxwell_number9 the markets won't be voided unfortunately.
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:52 AM BST
homas : Hello welcome to Betfair you are chatting with Thomas. How can I help?
You: i hope your now going to void the liverpool market after yet more incompetence from betunfair
Thomas: for what reason? I am unfamiliar with what has happened in the match
You: its been suspended for no reason for the last 25 mins
Thomas: ah ok, i see. there was a message sent round a little while ago. the feed is not working for the game so it can not be offered in-play. we do not void bets in this circumstance
You: dont talk lies its live on tv, every other sportsbook is fine, stop trying to fob people off with lies
Thomas: our feed is not working, why else would we suspend the market?
You: bevause your a bunch of clowns
Thomas: no. because the feed is not working. it can not be offered in play
You: its live on tv you idiot
You: its went inplay, so why is it your betfair team is saying its a different issue..
Thomas: it went in-play, then the feed stopped working, therefore it was suspended
You: didnt you pay your tv bill or something, how is it every other sportsbook is fine, apart from you lot as usual
Thomas: i cant speak for other companies as I do not work for them. I work for betfair and our live feed is not working
You: you use the same feeds as these other companys, im not an idiot
Thomas: you are also not an employee, therefore have no idea what feeds we use. if the market is suspended, people cant bet. if people cant bet then we dont get any commission. there is absolutely no logic in suspended a market unless we have no choice
You: well stop taking peoples money as soon as you **** up
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:54 AM BST
Thomas: we dont take your money, betfair is an exchange, you bet against other people. please do not swear or insult on the chat or i will simply terminate it
You: you take your commission this is why you wont void the markets.
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:56 AM BST
Thomas: no, again, you are incorrect. we dont void the markets as not everyone bets with an intention to trade. if we void then the other side of the argument to yours is that a customer had no intention of trading, why should their bet suffer
Thomas: we have to be fair to both backers and layers
You: well thats what the sportsbook is for.
Thomas: many people have been using the exchange in such a way for numerous years. remember we have only had the sportsbook for a few months
You: no the point is you cannot manage your markets properly, end of story, your incompetence is mind blowing, no wonder betfair is dieing
Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 11:56 AM BST
surely they can open markets now its half time
Report Snosurf July 24, 2013 11:57 AM BST
hahahaha.... that was amusing.

Alright so let me get this straight. They advertise a game as in-play betting, suspend betting within 10min of the start and then say 'they do not void bets in this circumstance'? When the Frrrk else would you void a market then? This seems like the prime case of when you SHOULD void a market. Completely retarded.

I suppose there's always hope that Victory can equalise :/
Report RafterP1 July 24, 2013 11:57 AM BST
i think if the markets remain suspended for the whole game then theres a case for voiding the market.. otherwise it aint gonna happen
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 11:58 AM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 11:57AM, RafterP1 wrote:


i think if the markets remain suspended for the whole game then theres a case for voiding the market.. otherwise it aint gonna happen


iv ben told by 3 idiots it wont be voided

Report RafterP1 July 24, 2013 11:59 AM BST
I need 4 more goals then! Laugh
Report Snosurf July 24, 2013 11:59 AM BST
"We have to be fair to both backers and layers". How is this fair to both parties? Fairness would be to void the market and refund all bets! Maybe they both wanted to trade, maybe neither did. The fact is they had no option to do so
Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 12:00 PM BST
kingmax - can you ask Thomas if they insist on having it suspended all game, can they just re-open them whilst it's ht then close them again at kick off
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 12:00 PM BST
ou: so its half time, why is it not open now..? more incompetence
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 12:01 PM BST
So the trader who has lumped £2000 on Liverpool at 1.23 and now wants to lay off at 1.05 cant?

Good luck telling him that when Melbourne equalise in the last minute and you c*nts are still suspended.

In-play MEANS f*cking IN-PLAY. It isnt IN-F*CKING-PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 12:01 PM BST
You: well
Report Mikey Corleone July 24, 2013 12:02 PM BST
The point is difficult. Let's say, I have bet against Liverpool Ov. 2.5 with odds 1.33. And for 20 minutes I had no chance to save money I already won (as the odds moved from 1.33 upwards). At this moment, I could have bet on Bet365 with odds 1.90. But I dont, as I think: If I bet at Bet365 my bet is safe (no loss) but I will not know if it will be voided at Betfair (and if its going to be Under2.5 I will lose money on Bet365). Everyone has his own rights (ante-post players and traders) but the solution is only one: when something is not working, within some minutes Betfair should write something in the market, as for example: "Bets are going to be voided" or "Market is suspended but bets are still valid". So everyone knows how to react. Wrong?
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:04 PM BST
market is back up
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 12:05 PM BST
Will suspend again in 3 minutes FACT
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:05 PM BST
1.07 to back Liverpool....good money by my thoughts. Should score 2-3 more is second half....lets hope BF keep in play now !
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:05 PM BST
dont you guys read the small print,
If this market is scheduled to go in-play, but due to unforeseen circumstances we are unable to offer the market in-play, then this market will be re-opened for the half-time interval and suspended again an hour after the scheduled kick-off time. Whilst it is our intention to re-open this market for the half-time interval, in certain circumstances this may not always be possible.
Report silly seal July 24, 2013 12:06 PM BST
why is match odds up and nothing else
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 12:06 PM BST
ITS ONLY UP FOR HT GUYS!!
Report minka July 24, 2013 12:07 PM BST
only match odds market open ......everything else still suspended
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:07 PM BST
no chance of being voided now that in-play market reinstated, even if it is for half time only
Report silly seal July 24, 2013 12:07 PM BST
thats ridiculous
Report silly seal July 24, 2013 12:07 PM BST
how do they justify one market and not others
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:09 PM BST
they wouldnt void it anyway,you take youre chance as the above statement says mind you if joe bloggs can watch it on espn why cant betfair ,i do agree with that seems a bit stupid
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:10 PM BST
wait for the suspend button again coming up any second
Report der_der_73 July 24, 2013 12:10 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 11:36AM, RafterP1 wrote:


jim beglin has a touch of the redknapps calling suarez a 'little' genius.. he's 6ft tall u idiot


5ft 11 is not 6ft.

Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:11 PM BST
yes there you go,clowns of the highest order
Report minka July 24, 2013 12:11 PM BST
SUSPENDED AGAIN
Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 12:12 PM BST
some people must be desperate to trade out.

1.2 pre game
1.1 when they're 1-0 up
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:12 PM BST
had last chance at halftime....market now suspended for entire 2nd half !
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 12:13 PM BST
Do you blame them Biscuit?!
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:13 PM BST
shouldve of traded at h/t then, might be a power cut in hobart you never know but why on earth couldnt they do the game from the uk as espn are covering it
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:13 PM BST
prediction 4-0 final score, see how we go :-)
Report Snosurf July 24, 2013 12:13 PM BST
Void the markets and betfair don't get paid. Simple really. F'ing greediness
Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 12:14 PM BST
no i don't blame them, i just think they are great odds.

I was going to trade out myself but at those odds i ended up topping up.

Watch it end 1-1 Sad
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:15 PM BST
its not greed,theyre losing money by this not being inplay
Report RafterP1 July 24, 2013 12:16 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:10PM, der_der_73 wrote:


Jul 24, 2013 -- 11:36AM, RafterP1 wrote:jim beglin has a touch of the redknapps calling suarez a 'little' genius.. he's 6ft tall u idiot5ft 11 is not 6ft.


well 5'11 is hardly little

Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 12:17 PM BST
Would never say 1/10 are great odds in a friendly regardless of them being 1 up.

That said they should win comfortably from here as a 1/10 shot should.
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:18 PM BST
honestly I don't know why they suspend market when a goal happens....they blame is cause people being disadvantaged due to delayed coverage, do people really give a **** !  If its clearly stated that all markets are inplay & won't be suspended then I believe you would still have same trading volume. This would take one hell of pressure off BF to view every game live, although unless they are at the ground itself then they aren't live....aren't people at the ground able to trade before BF suspends ??
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 12:18 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:17PM, In my Opinion wrote:


Would never say 1/10 are great odds in a friendly regardless of them being 1 up.That said they should win comfortably from here as a 1/10 shot should.


like utdLaugh

Report kingmax July 24, 2013 12:19 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:18PM, Bobdownunder wrote:


honestly I don't know why they suspend market when a goal happens....they blame is cause people being disadvantaged due to delayed coverage, do people really give a **** !

Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:21 PM BST
anyone trying to watch the game but cant get 7mate (like me) can tune into www.wiziwig.tv.....plenty of channels to watch live stream
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:24 PM BST
This is so painful to watch. Get some other players on ffs.
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:24 PM BST
why on earth would you back pool anyway at 5s on in a freindly,they were toothless against indoesnia and arsenal stuck 7 past them so 5s on against melbourne is hardly a gimme
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:24 PM BST
I wanna see Aspas, Alberto and Mignolet ffs.
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:25 PM BST
victory arent a bad side so could end up 1-1
Report In my Opinion July 24, 2013 12:25 PM BST
They somehow have feed to Indonesian 9th Division games.......!! Turn over to that small channel that hardly anyone has heard of.....ESPN.

Give me strength.
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:26 PM BST
everytime borini goes forward there is six aussie players waiting for him
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:28 PM BST
i see suarez on subs bench,why not put him on
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 12:29 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:28PM, jajabink wrote:


i see suarez on subs bench,why not put him on


because he is leaving

Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:29 PM BST
They sure love Gerrard
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:31 PM BST
Suarez could bite again, can't risk again against aussie flesh
Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 12:31 PM BST
Hardly in a rush to get Suarez fit are they, even if he stays he misses the first 6 games
Report kingmax July 24, 2013 12:32 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:31PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


Hardly in a rush to get Suarez fit are they, even if he stays he misses the first 6 games


he has told liverpool he wants to talk to arsenal

Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:33 PM BST
if inplay I would now be backing +2.5 goals at about $2.50
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:34 PM BST
Borini unbelievably bad.
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:34 PM BST
**** off Downing.
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:36 PM BST
Suarez cert to score if comes on
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:36 PM BST
He's coming on now.
Report jajabink July 24, 2013 12:38 PM BST
**** have this inplay but no money really,suarez looks so excited
Report TheBetterBettor July 24, 2013 12:38 PM BST
Suarez might wanna stay there....Melbourne Victory look like a bigger club.
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:39 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:38PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:


Suarez might wanna stay there....Melbourne Victory look like a bigger club.


? They are all supporting Liverpool though? So how did you that logic.

Report Biscuit1979 July 24, 2013 12:42 PM BST
he doesn't use logic, just posts relentless anti Liverpool stuff day after day
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:44 PM BST
Fair enough.
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:44 PM BST
Suarez looks well interested Crazy
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:45 PM BST
We miss Coutinho.
Report TheBetterBettor July 24, 2013 12:46 PM BST
boo whoo, just support your club in the tin pot cups.
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:46 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:46PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:


boo whoo, just support your club in the tin pot cups.


lol

Report der_der_73 July 24, 2013 12:46 PM BST
Beglin "this is right up there"........up there with what Jim?
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 12:49 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:46PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:


boo whoo, just support your club in the tin pot cups.


Unless you support Barca, Real Madrid or Bayern theres a high chance you still be in the same cups as us by Christmas.

Report TheBetterBettor July 24, 2013 12:50 PM BST
Report super spurs July 24, 2013 12:52 PM BST
I HOPE MELBOURNE SCORE.LIVERPOOL ARE SO SH1TE AND LOOKS LIKE IF U LAY THEM NEXT SEASON IN THE PREMIER GAMES U WILL MAKE MONEY.
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 12:59 PM BST
told ya Suarez was gunna score....I can't believe his excitement !
Report Snosurf July 24, 2013 12:59 PM BST
Thanks for losing me money betfair you incompetent pricks. F U
Report Mike-lfc July 24, 2013 1:00 PM BST

Jul 24, 2013 -- 12:59PM, Bobdownunder wrote:


told ya Suarez was gunna score....I can't believe his excitement !


GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. It was Aspas.

Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 1:01 PM BST
damn would of lost my money inplay backing Suarez, haha.........they'll void the market now, not enough comm's from a Liverpool win
Report Bobdownunder July 24, 2013 1:03 PM BST
they've already paid out !!  Void not even considered !
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