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By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:31
yet again **** in the ass by clownfair
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:33
they will open it after a goal... same old ****
By:
Snosurf
When: 24 Jul 13 11:35
Alright well surely the market has to be voided now? It's been suspended for 10-15min!
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:36

Jul 24, 2013 -- 11:35AM, Snosurf wrote:


Alright well surely the market has to be voided now? It's been suspended for 10-15min!


dont be silly... they can do what they like

By:
RafterP1
When: 24 Jul 13 11:36
jim beglin has a touch of the redknapps calling suarez a 'little' genius.. he's 6ft tall u idiot
By:
In my Opinion
When: 24 Jul 13 11:37
This is utter b*llshit. Unsuspend FFS
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:39
they have an issue with the market.
By:
Snosurf
When: 24 Jul 13 11:40
Definitely be voided in that case, I've seen it happen before
By:
Snosurf
When: 24 Jul 13 11:40
Particularly now that a goal has happened
By:
In my Opinion
When: 24 Jul 13 11:41
Oh well thats okay then!!!! I'm positive they will refund any bets!!!!!!
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:41

Jul 24, 2013 -- 11:41AM, In my Opinion wrote:


Oh well thats okay then!!!! I'm positive they will refund any bets!!!!!!


LaughLaughLaugh

By:
In my Opinion
When: 24 Jul 13 11:42
Tongue in cheek max ;)
By:
RafterP1
When: 24 Jul 13 11:42
dont bank on it... this happens all the time with some lower lge european games and they dont always void those markets
By:
In my Opinion
When: 24 Jul 13 11:43
How much are usually matched on those markets though?
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 24 Jul 13 11:43
Why would they void it?

I placed my bet pre game and i expect it to stand.
By:
minka
When: 24 Jul 13 11:45
when will BF let us know what is happening?
By:
rommel
When: 24 Jul 13 11:45
its a dunking day today
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:46
there is no feed for the game LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 24 Jul 13 11:47
is that what they said? Useless c*nts. Tell them to get on firstrow there's about 2 dozen!
By:
In my Opinion
When: 24 Jul 13 11:48
Biscuit - never going to please everyone. Some trade a sh!t ton during a game, others leave as is. I'm not telling you anything you didnt know obviously.

But the rules state the game is in-play. It isn't. Well not after about 10 mins so should be voided imo
By:
RafterP1
When: 24 Jul 13 11:49
they havent said anything on twitter so its not been voided
By:
Snosurf
When: 24 Jul 13 11:49
They will void it because it is unfair to people who wanted to trade. I've had that happen on several occasions. You should receive an email like this at some stage in the next few hours:

"Dear xxxx,

One or more of your bets, placed on the market has been voided/lapsed by Betfair. Whilst these bets were all placed in good faith, in order to be fair to all users we have had to void/lapse them."

Betfair is an exchange. Regardless of whether your bet was placed pre-game/ in-play and whether you had the view of trading, or letting your bet stand throughout, the circumstances here are such that in order to be fair to all users, the market has to be voided and all bets refunded. It was a technical error that affected the market.
By:
In my Opinion
When: 24 Jul 13 11:49
A lot of people wouldnt have got involved if this wasnt in-play, myself included.
By:
RafterP1
When: 24 Jul 13 11:49
theyve just tweeted this: The Liverpool game is being managed by our team in Hobart, they currently have an issue with the feed which is why the markets are suspended, Until the issues with the feed are rectified, the markets will remain suspended. We hope to have the market reactivated as soon as possible.
By:
Joel
When: 24 Jul 13 11:50
No feed? I assume its in Australian wallet, why don't they turn their tv on channel 73 (on FTA)
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:50
@Maxwell_number9 the markets won't be voided unfortunately.
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:52
homas : Hello welcome to Betfair you are chatting with Thomas. How can I help?
You: i hope your now going to void the liverpool market after yet more incompetence from betunfair
Thomas: for what reason? I am unfamiliar with what has happened in the match
You: its been suspended for no reason for the last 25 mins
Thomas: ah ok, i see. there was a message sent round a little while ago. the feed is not working for the game so it can not be offered in-play. we do not void bets in this circumstance
You: dont talk lies its live on tv, every other sportsbook is fine, stop trying to fob people off with lies
Thomas: our feed is not working, why else would we suspend the market?
You: bevause your a bunch of clowns
Thomas: no. because the feed is not working. it can not be offered in play
You: its live on tv you idiot
You: its went inplay, so why is it your betfair team is saying its a different issue..
Thomas: it went in-play, then the feed stopped working, therefore it was suspended
You: didnt you pay your tv bill or something, how is it every other sportsbook is fine, apart from you lot as usual
Thomas: i cant speak for other companies as I do not work for them. I work for betfair and our live feed is not working
You: you use the same feeds as these other companys, im not an idiot
Thomas: you are also not an employee, therefore have no idea what feeds we use. if the market is suspended, people cant bet. if people cant bet then we dont get any commission. there is absolutely no logic in suspended a market unless we have no choice
You: well stop taking peoples money as soon as you **** up
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:54
Thomas: we dont take your money, betfair is an exchange, you bet against other people. please do not swear or insult on the chat or i will simply terminate it
You: you take your commission this is why you wont void the markets.
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:56
Thomas: no, again, you are incorrect. we dont void the markets as not everyone bets with an intention to trade. if we void then the other side of the argument to yours is that a customer had no intention of trading, why should their bet suffer
Thomas: we have to be fair to both backers and layers
You: well thats what the sportsbook is for.
Thomas: many people have been using the exchange in such a way for numerous years. remember we have only had the sportsbook for a few months
You: no the point is you cannot manage your markets properly, end of story, your incompetence is mind blowing, no wonder betfair is dieing
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 24 Jul 13 11:56
surely they can open markets now its half time
By:
Snosurf
When: 24 Jul 13 11:57
hahahaha.... that was amusing.

Alright so let me get this straight. They advertise a game as in-play betting, suspend betting within 10min of the start and then say 'they do not void bets in this circumstance'? When the Frrrk else would you void a market then? This seems like the prime case of when you SHOULD void a market. Completely retarded.

I suppose there's always hope that Victory can equalise :/
By:
RafterP1
When: 24 Jul 13 11:57
i think if the markets remain suspended for the whole game then theres a case for voiding the market.. otherwise it aint gonna happen
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 11:58

Jul 24, 2013 -- 11:57AM, RafterP1 wrote:


i think if the markets remain suspended for the whole game then theres a case for voiding the market.. otherwise it aint gonna happen


iv ben told by 3 idiots it wont be voided

By:
RafterP1
When: 24 Jul 13 11:59
I need 4 more goals then! Laugh
By:
Snosurf
When: 24 Jul 13 11:59
"We have to be fair to both backers and layers". How is this fair to both parties? Fairness would be to void the market and refund all bets! Maybe they both wanted to trade, maybe neither did. The fact is they had no option to do so
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 24 Jul 13 12:00
kingmax - can you ask Thomas if they insist on having it suspended all game, can they just re-open them whilst it's ht then close them again at kick off
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 12:00
ou: so its half time, why is it not open now..? more incompetence
By:
In my Opinion
When: 24 Jul 13 12:01
So the trader who has lumped £2000 on Liverpool at 1.23 and now wants to lay off at 1.05 cant?

Good luck telling him that when Melbourne equalise in the last minute and you c*nts are still suspended.

In-play MEANS f*cking IN-PLAY. It isnt IN-F*CKING-PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
kingmax
When: 24 Jul 13 12:01
You: well
By:
Mikey Corleone
When: 24 Jul 13 12:02
The point is difficult. Let's say, I have bet against Liverpool Ov. 2.5 with odds 1.33. And for 20 minutes I had no chance to save money I already won (as the odds moved from 1.33 upwards). At this moment, I could have bet on Bet365 with odds 1.90. But I dont, as I think: If I bet at Bet365 my bet is safe (no loss) but I will not know if it will be voided at Betfair (and if its going to be Under2.5 I will lose money on Bet365). Everyone has his own rights (ante-post players and traders) but the solution is only one: when something is not working, within some minutes Betfair should write something in the market, as for example: "Bets are going to be voided" or "Market is suspended but bets are still valid". So everyone knows how to react. Wrong?
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