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27 Jun 13
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Dont get me wrong Baines is a decent player but shouldnt utd be aiming a little higher ?
Given that he is 28 he isnt exactly a signing for years to come, i know man u need a left back.
Strange transfer target imo.
Given that he is 28 he isnt exactly a signing for years to come, i know man u need a left back.
Strange transfer target imo.
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Don't think it's that strange. They have a couple of promising youngsters already. He could be in for the start of the season and at his peak for another 3 seasons. Also I imagine Moyesie likes the idea of bringing in a familiar face.
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Any move for Tony Hibbert yet?
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But moyesie bringing in a familar face the way forward for man utd ?
Im sure there are 20 better left backs than baines below £20m. |
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Only if the familiar face is Utd class and Everton probably only had a couple, him being one. I think he's been the best left back in the league for a couple of seasons and no reason to thinkhe won't be for another couple IMO.
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Don't think they will pay anything approaching 20m for him. I reckon top price 14m. Which is probably the right price.
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Fair enough, i think he is light years behind cole who is past his best.
Good english left back, not seen him play really well for england. Just think signing players like Baines is holding man u back in europe and not really the way forward. |
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I agree Sonko. Looks like a safe short term purchase but they could find a decent youngster with great potential. Baines isn't even a regular international.
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It is understood United have made an offer to Everton for Baines, with reports suggesting their opening bid was between £10 million and £12m.
While that figure is way below what the Toffees believe is the market value for the 28-year-old, who is now challenging Ashley Cole as England's first-choice left back, the club consider it irrelevant as they have no intention of letting him go. Manager Roberto Martinez, who succeeded Moyes at Goodison Park, is due back in the country tomorrow after his commitments as an American television pundit for the Confederations Cup are over. |
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Each to their own mate and respect your opinion. But I've seen quite a lot of him as I always watch Everton half a dozen times a season or so live. And I think he's class. Better than what Utd have. Loads of top players havent performed well for England tbf so wouldn't worry about that! Agree there might be better in Europe, but they would be a much bigger risk. To sign a ready made Prem proven player at his peak is what the likes of Utd need to do IMO.
The only negative for him might be that he seems to have a slightly abnormal understanding with Pienaar and the two of them seem to be so much better when playing together. He might not click as well with anyone at Utd. |
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20 better than Baines under 20 million!? Ignorant and patently untrue. He's been the best in this country for the last 2 years by a country mile. His peers rate him and he figures highly in all the stats throughout Europe, not just the prem league.
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United would get 6 years out of Baines at least - they were happy enough to pay £25m for an injury prone 29 yr old striker and put him on £12m/yr salary
They will get 3 years max out of RVP |
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What ccm said*
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baines better than cole
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I see what you are saying, all valid.
Just remember his england performances didnt excite me, but then again playing for england is rather worthless. To say he is a country mile better than cole is... |
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Cole at his best was definitely better for me, but Baines has been better recently. Probably wasn't that much between them season before last but Cole has waned a bit and Baines continued to improve.
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If it was a case of medals on the table Baines might see his League two champion medal trumped by Cole's haul
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You started it by saying he's light years behind Cole. The truth lies somewhere between. Cole has been exceptional but is on the decline IMO. Baines is getting better and really has been world class for 2 seasons. In terms of assists,set pieces, goals and link up play there isn't a left back to rival him. He's also a class defender btw
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*League one
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What does that prove crisp? There a countless rubbish players with more medals than top players.
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Ah fishing. Got you.
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Ahh the medals debate....P Neville and S Gerrard blah blah
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Nope. Been there and seen my team win the lot mate. Which is almost certainly more than you can say. Your armchair doesn't count
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1978, world class ??
Baines has been a top class in the epl, i dont doubt. |
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steady guys.....
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cole is loseing some pace now but still better then baines does more running then baines and is a better defender.baines is good at taking free kicks and corners
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Dr a in blinkered about anyone outside of Chelsea shocker
True crisp. Certainly can't argue with that! |
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mine has whipmarks in it
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Oo-er!
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Lets get back to the original question.
Is Baines going to improve man u by much and how much Baines is probably going to be the no1 left back for england in the next 3 years. my question was, does it improve man u ? Given that man u are built on a spine, centre backs do the defending etc |
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dr . atkins 27 Jun 13 22:08
baines is good at taking free kicks and corners And the small matter of creating more chances than any other player in Europe...... |
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Dr Atkins I'm assuming you're on a wind up? http://www.eplindex.com/31356/cole-baines-time-shift-england-colours.html
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Wind up 9/2
Not all there 1/10 |
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IS. I think Evra had a reasonable season so don't think Baines is going to massively improve them. There would definitely be other priorities in the Utd side IMO. That's why I think there must be something in the Moyes wanting a familiar face theory.
But on the strict 'would he improve them' question, Id say yes. |
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cole as won over 100 caps for england and as been the best left back in the premier league since day one
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You're missing the point dr a.
Shearer was a great striker. |
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ccm not blinded by the fact he plays for chelsea best left back in prem history
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