Football
I'm not a big time gambler and go through stages every few months of on and off betting but during the stages when I'm actively involved in betting I've got to admit most of the day I'm wondering where my next bet will come from and what the risks are, the stats, the stakes etc...
What I have noticed however is that many of you use large stakes, sometimes reaching into 4 figure sums and it makes me wonder if that kind of bank has been built up has it taken months or years and has it been alot of frustration, elation and tears along the way in what must be a daily betting routine?
All in all JC I'm probably down over time. Had accounts since the day I turned 18, and a few years back on Laddies I'd worked out over the course of about 2 years I was £200 down. Not that much in the grand scheme of things, my Full Tilt account however doesn't make for pretty reading
Jun 10, 2013 -- 9:26PM, ocukstinky wrote:
Another problem with mine is my obsession with numbers. From the age of 3 I was classed as having a genius IQ and I'm freakishly good with mental arithmetic, almost to the extent where i'm constantly doing some form of mathematics in my head. Keeps my brain thinking but I can't control it. Betting is another form of that, I guess. I could sit here for hours working things out. I have an eidetic memory so I can soak up a hell of a lot of information and remember it, especially on stuff I've bet on. I'll then try and use that information to my advantage the next time that person/team/whatever plays and work out what's a good bet and what isn't.All in all JC I'm probably down over time. Had accounts since the day I turned 18, and a few years back on Laddies I'd worked out over the course of about 2 years I was £200 down. Not that much in the grand scheme of things, my Full Tilt account however doesn't make for pretty reading
Sadly my brother nearly ended his life over a gambling addiction and estimated he was probably 50k down overall, so that's a bit of perspective for anyone else's overall profit/loss, and a reminder about addiction too.
You need to be good at mental arithmetic with the scorelines in the ol' Estonian Cup
Most of what I write in those threads I've remembered as well, haven't needed to look any of it up. Even 20 years from now I'll probably remember that Flora won 0-18 away at Reaal Tallinna..
Jun 10, 2013 -- 9:26PM, ocukstinky wrote:
Another problem with mine is my obsession with numbers. From the age of 3 I was classed as having a genius IQ and I'm freakishly good with mental arithmetic, almost to the extent where i'm constantly doing some form of mathematics in my head. Keeps my brain thinking but I can't control it. Betting is another form of that, I guess. I could sit here for hours working things out. I have an eidetic memory so I can soak up a hell of a lot of information and remember it, especially on stuff I've bet on. I'll then try and use that information to my advantage the next time that person/team/whatever plays and work out what's a good bet and what isn't.All in all JC I'm probably down over time. Had accounts since the day I turned 18, and a few years back on Laddies I'd worked out over the course of about 2 years I was £200 down. Not that much in the grand scheme of things, my Full Tilt account however doesn't make for pretty reading
Yeah... mate... I am on the same story mate..
Opened accounts since I turned 18 
I never had a nice life... I don't drink, I don't go out much, I only literally work, so that at the end of the day, I can place the bets...
Throughout the past few years, I had lots of heartaches... impossible badbeats.. some lovely memories too... but yes, I tried to stop... but what will I do with my life without this?
That's life, I wonder would I have been if I never gambled...
To be frank, I have managed to get out of Poker... for the past year thanks to Betfair's interested trading system here... and I have significintly cut my losses..
But the thing is that until the season starts, I don't know how to spend my time...
I have a huge memory... thanks this betting... for example anything you ask me about football I know.. for example.. ask me what was the Roma line up of 2005.. anything..
I could NEVER place a bet as big as some people do on here, that takes a) a big bankroll and b) serious balls. Take the chap who had £111,000 on Woods to win the Open last year, that's some serious guts to do that. Biggest bet I've ever had was £120 at 4/6 which won comfortably but I was still cacking it the whole way through.
That guy's just an attention seeker, senyatta. Posted a treble including Barneveld in the darts then backs out of it because he's playing a British player at the UK Open. Great reasoning there. He hasn't got a clue what he's doing. I agree on the stakes part, the winning feeling is nice whether you've put £5 on at evens or £50 on at evens, yet a £50 loss will hurt a lot more than a £5 loss.
I just want to make £1m - £2m off a huge accumulator win, then make millions and a billion sometime.
I want to mug the bookies hard. And share the wealth.
It wastes my time, but as a diagnosed schizophrenic all I can do is bet and go to the gym and see friends and family. It bothers me wasting time because it's making my brain dumb. But what can I say? I appreciate life so it isn't all that bad.
But for people who want to win I recommend sticking to 2-3 bets certain winners each week and lumping on 20% of your bank, on odds of 1.36-1.6 for example.
Betting is a waste of time if you are not winning. A dire stinky ass waste of time.
One thing that really annoys me is on line casinos and all that goes with it. They lead the best people to the pits and are causing carnage everywhere. They should be banned. They have ruined the lives and finances of thousands of good people.
I wont ever stop having a punt as I enjoy it but punting large ammounts is not a good idea. Keep it small and dont bet to make a living as it cant be done for most. An intelligent chap I work with said that people who have no interest in sports and have good math skills can be more successful at this game.
fckin ell, words fail me
After time you seem to end up with same old result, and , you sorta wonder how long you can waste time and money on these sort of places, like i have to admit that im not really that interested in those eastern europe soccer comps but by being online can find oneself betting on a goal being scored while lying in bed at 4 30 in the morn, now thats overkill on online time i reckon, but keeping a balance on time spent here or online completely is import.
Its simply about striking the right balance, you get sick of the same old thing day in day out, ive become increasingly bored by lots of things online, and betting sites is no different, i will always like a few bets, its just about striking the right balance.
IF i was a punter who say did this full time id probably bet a lot less , just being more select, a lot of the markets or options you bet on are often like flipping a coin, its 50 50,sometimes your in sometimes your out
Jun 10, 2013 -- 10:03PM, Ernie__Bert wrote:
The Bhoys , all of your posts reflect a lot of punters on here including me. I rue the day I got involved with exchanges. There are thousands of punters on here who think they can and want to be their own little bookie. However its impossible for most. The longing to have a bet leads to poor decision making and bad staking and usually ends in tears. Its like a game of snakes and ladders. Ive lost a lot of money on here and only keep it small now as Ive run out of liquidity or potential liquidity.One thing that really annoys me is on line casinos and all that goes with it. They lead the best people to the pits and are causing carnage everywhere. They should be banned. They have ruined the lives and finances of thousands of good people.I wont ever stop having a punt as I enjoy it but punting large ammounts is not a good idea. Keep it small and dont bet to make a living as it cant be done for most. An intelligent chap I work with said that people who have no interest in sports and have good math skills can be more successful at this game.
online casinos , i get hundreds of e mail with deposit bonuses etc from casino sites every week, played a few in the past now i just delete them , if you are hooked on them you just play till account reads zero , and if ya silly enough you load up again till same result, being online is too convieniant but as i say before its about wising up .
Beer ads are just as bad, smiley faces again, have a great time sinking buds all night. No mention of how it can obliterate your insides, or turn you into john rambo outside the premises, staggering about challenging allcomers in your pi55stained jeans, and checked shirt covered in puked up burger and chips.
Jun 10, 2013 -- 9:54PM, ocukstinky wrote:
I don't play poker any more, had a little dabble on Pokerstars a few months ago and got bored pretty quick. Deposited $10, built it to $95 after a day and withdrew it because I knew what'd happen if I didn't. That was the first time in a few years I'd played - had my heart set on playing at the WSOP just once in my life to experience it all, the day I needed a top 16 finished and came 24th when my KK ran into AK and he outdrew me hurt me big time. Didn't bother again after that. There have been times where I've totally lost control of what I'm doing, gone upstairs and given the wall a good thump and wondered "why the fork do you do this to yourself?", but I found smaller bets have less of an impact but the winning feeling is still there, perks you up a bit when it comes up.I could NEVER place a bet as big as some people do on here, that takes a) a big bankroll and b) serious balls. Take the chap who had £111,000 on Woods to win the Open last year, that's some serious guts to do that. Biggest bet I've ever had was £120 at 4/6 which won comfortably but I was still cacking it the whole way through.That guy's just an attention seeker, senyatta. Posted a treble including Barneveld in the darts then backs out of it because he's playing a British player at the UK Open. Great reasoning there. He hasn't got a clue what he's doing. I agree on the stakes part, the winning feeling is nice whether you've put £5 on at evens or £50 on at evens, yet a £50 loss will hurt a lot more than a £5 loss.
Betting large amounts is hard. I had my largest ever outlay at the start of February on a Saturday afternoon of football, it was something I had to do, building a starting bank in one afternoon, the beginning of taking my gambling up several notches. I was just shaking at the beginning, and spent the next two hours walking around telling myself I never want to feel like this again, it was horrible, to be honest. The way I look at it is everything has a price, and if you want to make money for almost zero work, situations like that are the cost. £5 bets are much nicer
i must admit if i kept to cricket and darts i'd earn my monthly income on here. however the lure of the horses and football takes me into a loss most of the time.
its impossible to make any money out of the horses unless you are in the know. with all the cries of corruption in football, cricket and snooker, horse racing is and always has been the most crooked sport going.
if any of you guys see me on the horse racing forum again tell me im a mug and to p!ss off back to the cricket. thanks.
Jun 10, 2013 -- 11:53PM, steview84 wrote:
what a hugely refreshing thread with a lot of honesty. 99% of us are losers i must admit if i kept to cricket and darts i'd earn my monthly income on here. however the lure of the horses and football takes me into a loss most of the time.its impossible to make any money out of the horses unless you are in the know. with all the cries of corruption in football, cricket and snooker, horse racing is and always has been the most crooked sport going.if any of you guys see me on the horse racing forum again tell me im a mug and to p!ss off back to the cricket. thanks.
Horses is my downfall.
Family occasions are usually held when a big event is on and I can`t enjoy it because all I think about is my bet.
Good friends and family visit us and all I say is ffs trust them to come when the racing is on.
Friends phone me when I`ve just done my nuts and I feel like telling them all to f*** off!
I enjoy betting but I can honestly say it has ruined my life and I wish I had never started in the first place.
), buy a lottery ticket - gamble. So in answer to the OP no gambling hasn't taken over my life, life is a gamble 
Now my main thing is trading pre-off. I use a 2-3k bank and if I'm facing a loss I take it and move on to the next one. I still bet but the most is £50 and that's only now and then. I can go days without betting I don't even think about it unless there's a big event coming up (Royal Ascot for example) and I can live my life in a relaxed manner.
And I'm more successful now than I ever was cos I'd always eventually lose it.
Jun 11, 2013 -- 8:26AM, ocukstinky wrote:
I used to hate losing too, i always have done though. Sadly don't have a great temperament so it's quite easy to let rip at the smallest thing. Used to be a hardcore gamer and was in a quite competitive team for a few years and even though we were playing teams well above our level and losing (even though we knew we would) hurt me a lot. I stopped playing a game a few months ago that i'd played for almost 11 years and i feel so much better for it. Playing that and having a shocker then trotting off to have a bet of some kind was a recipe for disaster. If i'm having a bad day i'll try and stay away from the inevitable implosion, but on the flip side i feel i need to do something to take my mind off a bad day at work, and we're back to square one!
Go for a run or hit the gym. Avoid the computer, you think you have to log on but really you don't. Exercise gets the endorphins flowing which makes you feel good, then make yourself some nice food and watch a movie. Re-train your brain, if I can quit smoking, you can avoid the computer.
as my father was a bookmaker and so was I. It's playing
with numbers and betting is all about that.
When I first started it took me a month to realise you could green so I would trade cycling prices and leave the profit but have no liability. Most days I was ending with a total of £0.00
I remember picking up Bozic at 500's on one stage of the TdF and him trading as low as 10's after winning an intermediate sprint. My profit on that? £0.00! Since then I've made a steady profit and have a decent sized bank of which to play with. I don't try for the big wins and am happily just accumulating.I'm quite lucky in the fact that I spend a lot of the time at the computer so can easily make a few shillings on the side. There are days like yesterday where I didn't place a bet as anything I wanted to bet on was either delayed or not going as I'd planned. Then there are days where you can be run off your feet trying to enter into to many markets at once and end up making errors. I managed to very publicly drop a four figure sum last week by somehow placing it on the 5000/1? outsider at 1/10. Obviously that isn't great, but at the end of the day I've only set myself back a few months, so no real harm done and a valuable lesson learned.
I then came into a rather significant amount of money about this time last year and one night I awoke to later realise that I had made (& lost) on a stupidly large bet that turns my stomach to this very day. The worst thing about it I honestly can't remember doing it but it made me think long and hard about who I am as a person as I had never done anything like it ever before (I have since added deposit limits etc.) What followed was months of alcohol, drugs and anger at everyone and anyone, but I could not tell anyone what I had done, I couldnt even bet anymore as my mindset was CHASE CHASE CHASE CHASE, rather than thinking logically. I finally snapped in December last year and told my sister - a huge relief.
Since then things have been much better, I started gambling again in Jan and am very slowly clawing the money back. It still hurts but I am taking it as a life long lesson that I will never, ever forget! In summary - I love gambling, the thrill and the money, but it MUST be done in moderation, with only what you can afford to lose, and in a controlled manner.
I dont back horses now - I just stick to the footy and have done for some years. I tend to look at profit and loss over a season, some seasons I ve been down and others well up. I consider it an intellectual challenge, and I ve learned over the years to take the emotion out of betting, I m realistic enough to realise that as soon as the money is down, I might not see it again.
My first ever bet was in the early '70s on a horse called Red Rum. My dad put 25p Ew on for me & my sister had a horse called Crisp. She was shouting her head off as Crisp looked like winning........ well you know what happened, no wonder i was hooked on racing after that!
In my opinion, there is something about backing the winner of a horse race that eclipses every other form of gambling, unfortunately for me, i am no good at picking winners. I dread to think how much i have lost on racing over the years...... yet i do Ok on sports betting. Now where is the logic in this? Why don't i just knock the GGs on the head? There lies the problem for me personally.
gambling, drugs, exercise, career - most people have an addiction is some form or another.
This was after an old-timer in the bookie's had assured me the favourite
would win doing handstands.
I remember thinking how easy it was !
My second bet was the following day - an e/w bet on a horse that won at 11/2.
I had it made !
Since then I've been up and down like everyone but, if I'm
honest, I have to say that life would be very boring for me if I couldn't
have a bet when I want one.
#addicted
Refreshingly honest.
Starting college was the catalyst for my betting. trying to turn 20 quid into 40 for a few beers and a night out. Used do small hanicap bets involving the likes of celtic, rangers, madrid and barcelona minus a goal or two.No real science to it. Just about even money depending who they were playing, but kept me going. And it was fun.
The horses have been my downfall though...definitely down over the years.
Trying to get back into the samller more fun bets now...and they always seem to be the more sucessfull ones too.
Id rather win a little than lose a lot as they say
Jun 11, 2013 -- 1:35PM, Zazu wrote:
have you ever noticed how boring life is without stress/adrenaline?gambling, drugs, exercise, career - most people have an addiction is some form or another.
I think some people are more likely to have addictive personalities than others. For me, this is just one of several addictions I've had - it's very rare to have more than one at the same time, but I think once I stop doing something, I need to pick up something else. At this moment in time, it's gambling. And I'm not sure why I get my rush - sometimes, I think it's avoiding a loss, especially a close call, rather than plain winning.
simply a matter of time BIG.
. am paying for it now thos as was still on drink yday and dying today
I've been reading it on my phone on the way to work over the last few days.
Worryingly, een as a 'small punter' i've found much in common with many peoples comments on here. As someone with an addictive personality it's probably not a suprise but hey ho.
I started off with a trip to the casino when I was 18 with some older friends who are serious gamblers, one in particular has managed to rack up a profit of quarter a mill and then spunked the lot up the wall and gone 200K into the red so probably not the best people to know. Worst of all I made a relative killing that night. Earning £800 a month and making £400 in one night was the worst thing that could've happened to me...it all seemed SO easy. Too easy.
Since then i've kept my losses low, 1.3K on here and probably another few hundred at the dogs etc. Partly because as a average earner with bills and a mortgage I know my deposit limits.
The problem is that with my first ever live in girlfriend i'm starting to get the usual ' you spend every night on that bloody laptop' and 'pay me some attention, not just the footie'. I take things like that quite personally because I don't have much backbone to be honest so i'm limiting my time in the evenings...trouble is i'm on my phone in the morning checking matches, stats etc to make up for it.
I don't have any point to make but I like the thread and your posts, viewpoints from both sides of the coin...it should be stickied and new users forced to read it prior to their first deposit imo!
Be interesting to know.
Jun 11, 2013 -- 8:09PM, raspberrybottom wrote:
How many people's first bet on the nags was a winner?Be interesting to know.
grey cossack, 10 May 2003, my first year at University. I remember everything so well, the locals perving on my girlfriend, (who was nice, i've ended up with one 5 points below her, USE A CONDOM!!) the bookie saying "how did you pick that one". £51 from a £1, night out paid for. They've had it back since
Be interesting to know
Back in the 80s, we had a little syndicate going where I worked in Longsight, Manchester. Our works was right opposite a Ladbrokes, so we used to do a bet called ( I think ) a "flag "??? This was 9 horses arranged as trebles....most of the time it got turned over , but one memorable afternoon we got the lot up !!!!!
wish sir henry wasnt as bloody good a trainer i probly wudnt have kept on gambling 
started playing poker 6years ago won 20k in 4 days 1 week.went 2 florida disney world with family so atleast had a good time with it but blew most of rest on horses.now dont get me wrong it hasnt always been bad on horses but as ive got older ive relised how shockingly corrupt it is and to me now its a disgrace!!!my advice to any1 in there early teens, enjoy urselves without gambling or bet 2 small stakes
agree with that.
also interesting about the guys who enjoys number crunching getting caught in the gambling net aswell. and not always with good results
what do you mean it's based on your humour pbunter?
can you tell us a little about this bet please? was it 4, 5 figures?
did you blow the whole lot of the money you came into?
great thread guys!
With live betting use to spend all night online, then it went from that to the mobile phone and so on, i think weather you win or not win if you doing it all the time it starts to stuff ya head up the worst sites were the ones that have all the one account for all sections, would defeat the point of betting on sport, anywins would be erased by a session on blackjack or slots, even got to the point where you simply didnt care about the result of a game, only interested in if you win ya bets or not.
Still enjoy a bet but for now its just a bit of fun and thats what its meant to be, kinda getting back to the stage where you tend to watch or follow sport without the obsession of betting,always lived well enough without the continuos punting grind before , no reason why one cant live that way again, simple fact is best to change ones thinking, i think alot get hooked because its A...boredom and B .....the online phenomunum......for some the internet is an escape from reality and for others it is there reality, sad but true.
Jun 12, 2013 -- 3:24AM, 3setpoints wrote:
I then came into a rather significant amount of money about this time last year and one night I awoke to later realise that I had made (& lost) on a stupidly large bet that turns my stomach to this very day.can you tell us a little about this bet please? was it 4, 5 figures?did you blow the whole lot of the money you came into?great thread guys!
Was after a night out, woke up went to work, logged into bank account just to do a transfer and saw the damage, was £20k on O2.5 on Real v Valencia placed the bet when it was 1-1 HT (finished 1-1). Nah still got quite abit left was just sickening though as its totally out of my character, which is why I went into meltdown after. On a lighter note when I got home there was a ladder up against my back window that I used to get night in before as I had lost my key, don't remember doing that either!
Was so much looking forwrad to the confederations cup... Now Most probably I cannot have a bet there..
Better wait for the new season to start
those games with the flashy lights etc can be addictive, but free games , fun for a wee while.
bye all
Jun 14, 2013 -- 9:09AM, smithy91 wrote:
Milan if you keep losing in the over under market why don't you look at other markets. For me personally I cannot make money trading over under in play end up with big losses all the time so don't bother only trade pre off there where I do have an edge!
what do you mean by pre-off?
