we are sh1t we have been sh1t for 40 years,we will always be a sh1t national football team.we should be less optimistic and face facts the only chance we have of winning anything ever again is to bring back the home internationals and we won't be winning that every year either. best thing to do is support a different national side,come on brazil

loke everyone else i was totaly unimpresed by england against montenegro but to say they are totsaly shyte is of course nonsense. please remind me how many games england have lost in the last50 odd games(not many id say). we all know that england are far from oustanding  but their high world ranking is based on overll results and not on how pretty they play.theyll probably go on to qualify  from the group(quite possibly as winners) and qualify from whatever group the nd up in , in the finals then struggle at the knock out stages.in the meantime the world/european champions may well have to get there via a playoff.i dont actually think the draw gainst montenegro was a  poor result but agree the performance was poor and id say england were lucky to get a point.