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By:
kenilworth
When: 12 Mar 13 19:19
You may claim not be a liar, but you are a cheat,  OP
that is, although you are being endorsed by plenty of other
cheats it seems.
By:
anton66
When: 12 Mar 13 19:42
I had a bet on overpriced odds of the time of 1st goal markets with betfred 15mins 30mins. Covered over 30 mins with another bookie so no risk bet. Betfred cancelled my bet unknown to me 5 mins before kick off and I lost a lot of money. So keep the money as they screw us every day.
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 12 Mar 13 19:51
Buy a fishing rod with your winnings - hth
By:
EUGENE KRABS
When: 12 Mar 13 20:08
Bet placed at ten past three yesterday " in play " - wouldn't think there were too many events being bet in play then ! Not football, not cricket,not rugby, not golf - snooker ??
By:
CJ70
When: 12 Mar 13 20:30

Mar 12, 2013 -- 8:08PM, EUGENE KRABS wrote:


Bet placed at ten past three yesterday " in play " - wouldn't think there were too many events being bet in play then ! Not football, not cricket,not rugby, not golf - snooker ??


Full of football at 3pm yesterday.

By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 12 Mar 13 20:39
seriously though if this is genuine, tell them to do one...inept bookies should be punished
By:
homefortea
When: 12 Mar 13 20:48
If it is true (?) tell them to do one.Long gone are the days of being honest with the filth that portray themselves as "bookmakers"...

Tell them you put the cash in the FOBT on the way out and you will write to the local paper and tell them that you have had £50 stolen from you.And will get that back quickly...
By:
homefortea
When: 12 Mar 13 20:50
*and you will get that back quickly...
By:
donut2
When: 12 Mar 13 20:59
tell em to go **** em self
By:
Charlton2005
When: 12 Mar 13 21:08


Teddy Sheringham
11 Mar 13 22:33
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legally they have nothing as the bet is settled. b365 paid me £3600 once instead of £360. Withdrew the money 3 days later they mailed me saying we have made a mistake however as a gesture let me keep it then apologized for any inconvenience lol
i did check though & legally they couldn't force me to as the bet was settled
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jed.davison
11 Mar 13 22:33
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The chances of them taking you to court are close to zero. The chances of them winning are absolutely nil. As the chap above states, they had three chances to check that the odds and payment were correct before you got your hands on their cash. No way in the world will they want to expose their own cluelessness in open court.


these 2 together sum it up right imo. GL with it.

Teddy, hope you are well and winning.
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:02

Mar 12, 2013 -- 7:19PM, kenilworth wrote:


You may claim not be a liar, but you are a cheat,  OP that is, although you are being endorsed by plenty of other cheats it seems.


Please explain how I'm a cheat? I'm not telling what the bet was until there is an outcome one way or another, if they do decide to pursue it. In fact, it's not really your business what the bet was, all I'm asking for is some kind of clarification from people that have had such experiences and what their legal stance is, if any. As a former book yourself you seem incredibly bitter about this whole situation.

I'm getting a bit annoyed with people claiming that I'm fishing here when I've even provided plenty evidence when 99.99% of people on here wouldn't even bother. It's genuine. Hell, I have the slip confirming the withdrawal from my account right in front of me and I could post that too, but it's not worth the hassle because there will still be jealous non-believers.

By:
kenilworth
When: 13 Mar 13 00:10
How can anyone give an opinion on your 'bet' without
your disclosing the facts? if you want an opinion,
you should give the full facts, otherwise you are
cheating.
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:14
Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?
By:
Levskie101
When: 13 Mar 13 00:16
It is hard to give a full opinion without the bet as if it was meant to be a really short price then its going to be obvious you took advantage of it, but its obviously up to you when you post it, just going to have some people calling you out without the bet.

I have no reason to doubt your story and hope you get a good outcome.
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:25
Thank you. I get why some people don't believe it, but I don't like being branded as a liar, cheat, fisher, whatever terms you care to use when it's not really a made-up fantasy and I've proven that much. It's interesting to see who's for and against my case though, and it appears 90% are for. I've also replied to your PM, Levskie.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 13 Mar 13 00:25
shrewd move withdrawing the money in cash, a definite sign you were cheating though. Laugh

cunning execution but shifty as hell
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:28
I had an account with the same bookmaker until last year but closed it as I was going to give the game up, withdrew numerous times in cash as the branch is 50 yards from the bank that I bank with and it's at my disposal straight away. Saves waiting 5 days for it.
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 13 Mar 13 00:32
IMO ocukstinky, I would get on the phone to Laddies, explain to them you are deeply sorry. Explain that your realise that you have sinned that you will repay the £947 in full and also pay them a additonal £100 as a gogw towards the end of year staff party kitty to make it up to them and to show you have seen the error of your ways...
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 13 Mar 13 00:35
exactly, if you had waited 5 days you'd have not got it.

You've got away with it though.  Just ignore any correspondence.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 13 Mar 13 00:37
Feck me.  I'm a shareholder.   0.001p of that £947 is mineCry
By:
Charlton2005
When: 13 Mar 13 00:38
Laugh
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 13 Mar 13 00:40
ocukstinky - ignore the abusive posts, rest easy in the fact that there's very little they can do to get it back and also be sure to remember that there is not a single soul here who when sitting there with £950 in their hands, would walk back to the bookies and give it back.
By:
kenilworth
When: 13 Mar 13 00:41
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Replies: 3099 12 Mar 13 23:14   


Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?


I can't remember that. could you repeat the question?
By:
kenilworth
When: 13 Mar 13 00:41
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Replies: 3099 12 Mar 13 23:14   


Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?


I can't remember that. could you repeat the question?
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:42
Clydebank - cheque will be in the post once with interest it reaches 1p Love

Sorry ken, it was on the other thread.

If someone wanted £1000 on a 1/10 when it should have been 11/10, would you give it back if they had lost? If they had won, would you return £1100 or £2100?
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:44
Hang on, that doesn't really make a lot of sense.

Punter wants £1000 on 11/10, it's written on a slip as 1/10. What happens?
By:
TheChaser
When: 13 Mar 13 00:45
If it lost would they have give you the £1 back NOPE

Like someone else said just say its all in FOBT machine

Nothing can happen here FACT
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 13 Mar 13 00:46
Depends on the event Ocukstinky, horse racing he would get the price of the bet at the time struck according to the database, be that pre race or early price. If it was football he would get the price at KO on the server IMO.
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:50
Lets say it was an in-play snooker match, first to 5, player a was 4/9 pre match, leads 4-2 and is 1/10. FWIW this has no bearing on my event, just made it up.

Once had a treble on the darts, one was in-play, 2 were later on. £10 on 6/5 (in play), 11/4 and 1/3. They all won. I assumed the computers captured the odds according to the time the bet was struck, but when I went to collect my winnings she said the in-play one was void because it hadn't been stated on the slip. Told her I thought the machine captured time/price and synched up. Apparently doesn't work like that. She refused to pay up, told her I'd stand there arguing all night if I had to. After an hour and a half she gave in and paid me. What does that tell you Cry
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:51
FFS it's late and I'm even confusing myself here. Ignore the above example. Player a is 4/9 pre match, but trails 2-3 and is now 11/10. 1/10 is written on the slip.
By:
TheChaser
When: 13 Mar 13 00:51
CLYDEBANK29
12 Mar 13 23:25
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shrewd move withdrawing the money in cash, a definite sign you were cheating though. Laugh

cunning execution but shifty as hell



Laugh
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Mar 13 00:54
In the other thread ken has stated he doesn't answer hypothetical questions, which says to me he's as guilty as every other bookmaker out there and has mugged off many a customer in his time in the name of profit. I'm off to bed, let the opinions roll in..
By:
TheChaser
When: 13 Mar 13 00:56
I had to argue with billy hills to cash out last week then basically told them i was an addict and needed it out or else id lose on roulette.They paid into my neteller and then today i back a horse at cheltenham the free £10 + bet is meant to guarantee a free bet so ive been back at them for it but apparently i dont qualify.I have the letter here which states it.But when losing they never bother accounts.If you are seriously thinking of giving that cash back give up gambling.You placed a bet and it won
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 13 Mar 13 00:58
theres not a single poster on this thread would hand the money back imo, even the forums self appointed moral guardian
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 13 Mar 13 00:59
Laugh
By:
Maza
When: 13 Mar 13 01:04
It all depends on how strong you are mentally. They will write to you, phone you and email and will try and make you believe that they are right and you are wrong. When all is said and done, to get a price on a website and for it to be paid out, the bet and price has to go through the system of checks and balances. If something goes wrong it is 100% their fault. If you placed a bet for £100 meaning it to be £10 and asked them to cancel it as it was a mistake they would tell you to get stuffed you should have checked, so the same principle applies.

You should also mention between the lines that should they pursue it you will let every newspaper, tv show, website, forum and man on the street know how this firm treats its customers when they have a winner. Any bookmaker would pay 100 times what you got to avoid bad publicity.

Your in the power position and dont let them bully you.

Good luck.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 13 Mar 13 01:05
great post maza, totally agree
By:
kenilworth
When: 13 Mar 13 01:09
One thing a punter should remember, the onus is on
the him to write his bet correctly, if he doesn't
do that, he is at the mercy of the rule book.
Re taking prices, these should be confirmed when
the bet is struck, at that is how it was when I was
behind the counter. Normally the price should be
written on the betting slip and then confirmed by
the counter clerk.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 13 Mar 13 01:17
bookies can still claim ''palp'' even if the above is adhered to
By:
kenilworth
When: 13 Mar 13 01:22
Only if it's palpable.
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