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I was a regular at Millwall & West Ham back in the 70s (no, not a hooligan and supported neither team, but mates did)
We were only kids but we used to take bets on how long the opposing teams fans would last in the ground at Millwall. Think the longest was 30 mins (portsmouth it might have been). Notts Forest was the shortest at about -20 mins before kick off.
But the worst I ever saw was West Ham v Man utd in the 70s, can't remember exact year. The fighting started about an hour before kick off and carried on the whole match, never seen anything like it. A constant stream of injured fans and Police alike were carried away. I knida got the feeling, even at that young age, that these folks didn't much care for each other.
Mind you, them days, it was pretty much the same for every match, West Ham v Spurs another one that comes to mind, basically, any match involving West Ham or Millwall!
Disclaimer, I am NOT condoning football hooliganism in any way. I am simply telling how it was back in the 70's. If anyone is offended please take it up with The ICF or the Bushwackers, but obviously not on your own.
We were only kids but we used to take bets on how long the opposing teams fans would last in the ground at Millwall. Think the longest was 30 mins (portsmouth it might have been). Notts Forest was the shortest at about -20 mins before kick off.
But the worst I ever saw was West Ham v Man utd in the 70s, can't remember exact year. The fighting started about an hour before kick off and carried on the whole match, never seen anything like it. A constant stream of injured fans and Police alike were carried away. I knida got the feeling, even at that young age, that these folks didn't much care for each other.
Mind you, them days, it was pretty much the same for every match, West Ham v Spurs another one that comes to mind, basically, any match involving West Ham or Millwall!
Disclaimer, I am NOT condoning football hooliganism in any way. I am simply telling how it was back in the 70's. If anyone is offended please take it up with The ICF or the Bushwackers, but obviously not on your own.
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Feb 28, 2013 -- 9:56AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:
World cup, Marseille 1998. Never seen anything like it.
Is the correct answer.
Mayhem.
Feb 28, 2013 -- 7:29PM, Solano1 wrote:
Feb 28, 2013 -- 9:56AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:World cup, Marseille 1998. Never seen anything like it.Is the correct answer.Mayhem.
deffo not as i was there and have seen worse, copenhagen was worse easily, lazio v arsenal with roma waiting outside was worse as an example
I missed the Marseille incident due to prior engagement with my Passport & Police Station
Did the Tunisians get a proper shoeing that day?
Did the Tunisians get a proper shoeing that day?
sunderland v spurs 1978 , roker end went up, chelsea v sunderland 1985, sunderland's 3rd goal scored with a police horse in 18 yard box
. marseille 1998 for events all weekend.
. marseille 1998 for events all weekend.
Feb 28, 2013 -- 8:20PM, bellfunk wrote:
I missed the Marseille incident due to prior engagement with my Passport & Police StationDid the Tunisians get a proper shoeing that day?
Ha, looks like we may have had the same appointments over the years
don`t laugh but accrington stanley vs fleetwood town 1991
an f.a trophy quarter final,i don`t know if police intelligence had the week off but blackburn,burnley,preston and blackpool fans all decided this was the match of the weekend and all headed to east lancashire for what looked a tasty tie
when you have four hated rivals in a then non league ground where you can change ends at half time it`s only a matter of time before it goes nuclear!!!
it was so bad at one stage my mates and i decided to get ourselves nicked before we got battered,i think the two coppers who arrested us were glad to be out of it as well
an f.a trophy quarter final,i don`t know if police intelligence had the week off but blackburn,burnley,preston and blackpool fans all decided this was the match of the weekend and all headed to east lancashire for what looked a tasty tie
when you have four hated rivals in a then non league ground where you can change ends at half time it`s only a matter of time before it goes nuclear!!!
it was so bad at one stage my mates and i decided to get ourselves nicked before we got battered,i think the two coppers who arrested us were glad to be out of it as well
like RP said earlier, liverpool v juve 85 was really eerie after game. like being in a war zone no-go area. we had to get to brussels centre, had italians staying in our hotel too. ran the gauntlet that night. me and mate had a room, but 17 stayed in it that night. we thought we,d be better off in numbers. before and during the game was as surreal as it gets too.
Crystal Palace vs Birmingham City - the relegation party. Legendary.
Chelsea vs Boro play off 1988
Leicester vs Chelsea 1989
Leicester vs Chelsea 1989
Hello, hello, we are the City Boys,
hello, hello, you'll tell us by our noise,
we don't care what V***a say,
were going in fancy dress,
were all going to Palace!
By the middle of April that season Blues had been relegated for the first time in their history to the Third division. The club was at it's lowest ebb, St Andrews was in dire need of investment, many of the players were YTS apprentices, crowds at home had sunk to below the 5,000 mark and the club had no money. The Coombes family that had run the club for years decided to call it a day and ownership of the club transferred to the Kumar brothers.
For weeks the above song had been sung at St Andrews and at away trips such as Portman Road (where again we lost), to join in the Blues relegation party, however no one expected it to catch the imagination of so many Blues supporters. The day itself will be remembered with both joys and sorrows too... A police documentary about the day saw the police wondering why 150 Blues 'fans' were on the car park of the Crystal Palace leisure centre at 11am in the morning. It also showed the police being told that around 2,500 Blues fans were expected for the game. In the event around 9,000 Blues fans turned up for the game and those that had met up earlier at the leisure centre were determined to mark Birmingham City's relegation to the third division in an unsavoury way.
Before the game kicked off the, the scenes around and in the ground were truly amazing. On a bright sunshine day, every fancy dress costume that you could imagine was on display. Butchers, Rambos, Pirates, Supermen, Red Indians, Giant Pandas, other fury animals, Cavaliers, Hitlers, Andy Pandy's, Blues Brothers, put it this way you name it, they were there. What was even more amazing was the amount of people that were in fancy dress it must have been around 75% of the Blues crowd. It was a truly carnival atmosphere.
Blues fans were housed in part of the open terracing at one end of the ground and some seating at one side of the ground next to the terracing. The fans were packed into that terracing like sardines and it was verging on being dangerous. As kick off approached a lot of barracking was heard between the Blues fans in the seated area and the Palace fans around them. As soon as the game kicked off the trouble began. The 'fans' in the seated area now attacked the Palace fans around them, another group were busily smashing down a door that connected the terracing to this seated stand and another group ran onto the pitch and up the touchline to attack the Palace fans from the pitch. It was like watching a military plan going into operation, I am sure to this day that this was planned. At this point Palace scored, which prompted more Blues 'fans' to go on the pitch. The connecting door was now gone and more 'fans' streamed into the Palace end. The teams were withdrawn from the field for their own safety. The genuine Blues 'fans' chanted 'You're the s**t of Birmingham' at the troublemakers. The trouble continued for sometime and the game was held up for around 20 minutes, whilst peace was restored. A no-mans land was created in the seated stand (that had terracing to the front) and a number of Blues fans left the terracing for the comparative space of this stand.
Now I'm not condoning violence, but I believe looking back that these 'fans' did the rest of us a favour. The terracing was so dangerously crowded you may have ended up with another Hillsborough on our hands. Only by creating space in the side stand, by Palace fans moving to the other end, to get away from the trouble gave the Blues fans an overspill area, that relieved the crush on the terracing. Also I have to say that some of the fighting was comical to watch. You had pirates on the pitch fighting, Father Xmas reigning blows and then I remember someone saying 'The Gorilla's had it' as a blow was delivered to a guy in a gorilla costume, whilst a Hitler was directing the chaos. The game eventually re-started in a subdued atmosphere and thankfully there did not appear to be any further outbursts of violence. (Eventhough I heard since from Millwall supporters that some of them were leaving The Den, during their game to go down to Selhurst Park). Blues eventually lost (again) 4-1 with Simon Sturridge grabbing a consolation goal.
I had arranged to meet a Palace fan after the game in the Palace supporters club but I was too ashamed to turn up. So I made my way back to Thornton Heath station, to get the train back to Victoria. I remember standing on the platform and looking around and there was one Palace fan sitting down, trying to keep a low profile, amongst the hoards of Blues supporters. Unfortunately for him another fancy dress Blues 'fan' dressed as a Vicar was making his way down the platform, blessing Blues fans as he went. When he arrived in front of the Palace fan, he paused and then stamped his foot in front of him. The Palace fan almost jumped three feet in fright, to which Vicar commented 'You seem to have a nervous disposition son' the Vicar then forgave the Palace fan for sins and did another blessing and left him be. On arriving at Victoria, I have never seen so many police in all my life. The platform was lined with Police and dogs and there were so many Police standing in the concourse that you could not walk in a straight line in the end I was glad to get away a return to the normal world.
hello, hello, you'll tell us by our noise,
we don't care what V***a say,
were going in fancy dress,
were all going to Palace!
By the middle of April that season Blues had been relegated for the first time in their history to the Third division. The club was at it's lowest ebb, St Andrews was in dire need of investment, many of the players were YTS apprentices, crowds at home had sunk to below the 5,000 mark and the club had no money. The Coombes family that had run the club for years decided to call it a day and ownership of the club transferred to the Kumar brothers.
For weeks the above song had been sung at St Andrews and at away trips such as Portman Road (where again we lost), to join in the Blues relegation party, however no one expected it to catch the imagination of so many Blues supporters. The day itself will be remembered with both joys and sorrows too... A police documentary about the day saw the police wondering why 150 Blues 'fans' were on the car park of the Crystal Palace leisure centre at 11am in the morning. It also showed the police being told that around 2,500 Blues fans were expected for the game. In the event around 9,000 Blues fans turned up for the game and those that had met up earlier at the leisure centre were determined to mark Birmingham City's relegation to the third division in an unsavoury way.
Before the game kicked off the, the scenes around and in the ground were truly amazing. On a bright sunshine day, every fancy dress costume that you could imagine was on display. Butchers, Rambos, Pirates, Supermen, Red Indians, Giant Pandas, other fury animals, Cavaliers, Hitlers, Andy Pandy's, Blues Brothers, put it this way you name it, they were there. What was even more amazing was the amount of people that were in fancy dress it must have been around 75% of the Blues crowd. It was a truly carnival atmosphere.
Blues fans were housed in part of the open terracing at one end of the ground and some seating at one side of the ground next to the terracing. The fans were packed into that terracing like sardines and it was verging on being dangerous. As kick off approached a lot of barracking was heard between the Blues fans in the seated area and the Palace fans around them. As soon as the game kicked off the trouble began. The 'fans' in the seated area now attacked the Palace fans around them, another group were busily smashing down a door that connected the terracing to this seated stand and another group ran onto the pitch and up the touchline to attack the Palace fans from the pitch. It was like watching a military plan going into operation, I am sure to this day that this was planned. At this point Palace scored, which prompted more Blues 'fans' to go on the pitch. The connecting door was now gone and more 'fans' streamed into the Palace end. The teams were withdrawn from the field for their own safety. The genuine Blues 'fans' chanted 'You're the s**t of Birmingham' at the troublemakers. The trouble continued for sometime and the game was held up for around 20 minutes, whilst peace was restored. A no-mans land was created in the seated stand (that had terracing to the front) and a number of Blues fans left the terracing for the comparative space of this stand.
Now I'm not condoning violence, but I believe looking back that these 'fans' did the rest of us a favour. The terracing was so dangerously crowded you may have ended up with another Hillsborough on our hands. Only by creating space in the side stand, by Palace fans moving to the other end, to get away from the trouble gave the Blues fans an overspill area, that relieved the crush on the terracing. Also I have to say that some of the fighting was comical to watch. You had pirates on the pitch fighting, Father Xmas reigning blows and then I remember someone saying 'The Gorilla's had it' as a blow was delivered to a guy in a gorilla costume, whilst a Hitler was directing the chaos. The game eventually re-started in a subdued atmosphere and thankfully there did not appear to be any further outbursts of violence. (Eventhough I heard since from Millwall supporters that some of them were leaving The Den, during their game to go down to Selhurst Park). Blues eventually lost (again) 4-1 with Simon Sturridge grabbing a consolation goal.
I had arranged to meet a Palace fan after the game in the Palace supporters club but I was too ashamed to turn up. So I made my way back to Thornton Heath station, to get the train back to Victoria. I remember standing on the platform and looking around and there was one Palace fan sitting down, trying to keep a low profile, amongst the hoards of Blues supporters. Unfortunately for him another fancy dress Blues 'fan' dressed as a Vicar was making his way down the platform, blessing Blues fans as he went. When he arrived in front of the Palace fan, he paused and then stamped his foot in front of him. The Palace fan almost jumped three feet in fright, to which Vicar commented 'You seem to have a nervous disposition son' the Vicar then forgave the Palace fan for sins and did another blessing and left him be. On arriving at Victoria, I have never seen so many police in all my life. The platform was lined with Police and dogs and there were so many Police standing in the concourse that you could not walk in a straight line in the end I was glad to get away a return to the normal world.
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sunderland v spurs 1978 , roker end went up, chelsea v sunderland 1985, sunderland's 3rd goal scored with a police horse in 18 yard box. marseille 1998 for events all weekend.
if that would have been against liverpool the feckin horse probably would have headed it in. pre-beach ball obviously
sunderland v spurs 1978 , roker end went up, chelsea v sunderland 1985, sunderland's 3rd goal scored with a police horse in 18 yard box. marseille 1998 for events all weekend.
if that would have been against liverpool the feckin horse probably would have headed it in. pre-beach ball obviously
, wish the horse played in the final that year
Liverpool v Man Utd semi final 1985 goodison park, running battles , darts , golf balls with nails in getting thrown into the crowd
Football? Crowd Trouble? Handbags at 10 paces.
You want crowd unrest - some girl chucked a SHOE at that t*t from One Direction's MAN EGGS the other day, and scored a direct hit, knacker central.
Felled him, right there on stage. Not only was this shocking violence that would shame Milwall, she must have a more accurate throwing arm than Barney Van Dartsveld to find that Justin Beeper wannabes Microjewels.
You want crowd unrest - some girl chucked a SHOE at that t*t from One Direction's MAN EGGS the other day, and scored a direct hit, knacker central.
Felled him, right there on stage. Not only was this shocking violence that would shame Milwall, she must have a more accurate throwing arm than Barney Van Dartsveld to find that Justin Beeper wannabes Microjewels.
Middlesbro v Everton 4th Round Cup Replay, early 1988. Boro/ Everton was madness in those days for some reason, think they'd been wellied everywhere round Goodison in the 1st game and decided to get their own back in the 1st replay. 2nd Replay was at Goodison and it went off again.
Didn't have to go far down the page to find the word 'Millwall'. Wish that club didn't exist
England at Charleroi 2000. England fans have scum everywhere they go. It was nice when the Gardai kicked eff out of them at Lansdowne and the Japanese giving them a tonking in Shinjuku station 2002.
kellydamo
one got a 100k payout after winning the tribunal and not getting his job back
one got a 100k payout after winning the tribunal and not getting his job back
"I remember someone saying 'The Gorilla's had it' as a blow was delivered to a guy in a gorilla costume, whilst a Hitler was directing the chaos. The game eventually re-started in a subdued atmosphere and thankfully there did not appear to be any further outbursts of violence."
Captain Christy, that was priceless!
Laughed for a week.
Looked it up on youtube and proper riot ain't it?
Lots of folk say the worst ever inside an English ground was Blues v Leeds, but when you see it on youtube, it's just a lot of people running all over the pitch, no fighting as such, but I suppose the trouble was outside afterwards. I believe a young fan was killed and that's a tragedy. Reminds me why it had to stop.
Captain Christy, that was priceless!
Laughed for a week.
Looked it up on youtube and proper riot ain't it?
Lots of folk say the worst ever inside an English ground was Blues v Leeds, but when you see it on youtube, it's just a lot of people running all over the pitch, no fighting as such, but I suppose the trouble was outside afterwards. I believe a young fan was killed and that's a tragedy. Reminds me why it had to stop.
burnley v liverpool around about 73/74, liverpool fans trashed the place!!!!
man utd at anfield in the 70,s was always bad as were birmingham games.
went away to carlilse with the reds in the 70s and that was nuts!!!!
man utd at anfield in the 70,s was always bad as were birmingham games.
went away to carlilse with the reds in the 70s and that was nuts!!!!
roma v Liverpool
from flares fired at reds fans inside the ground to what happened afterwards, street battles everywhere, people not really knowing which way to turn, stabbings, etc.
millwall are nothing like the same nowadays, mostly little burberry kids acting tought pretending to emulate their peers, on saying that the meanest looking fans ever to visit anfield were millwall, tho a long while ago, even the insane psychopaths sitting in the stand were appalled by some even more insane fans nearby!
from flares fired at reds fans inside the ground to what happened afterwards, street battles everywhere, people not really knowing which way to turn, stabbings, etc.
millwall are nothing like the same nowadays, mostly little burberry kids acting tought pretending to emulate their peers, on saying that the meanest looking fans ever to visit anfield were millwall, tho a long while ago, even the insane psychopaths sitting in the stand were appalled by some even more insane fans nearby!
Great Fred
I love watching and reading about it Some of them battles you see on tv before the filth ruined it by handing out bigger jail terms than if you raped someone
Real great way to finish of a weeks work. Dress up nice wreck the train on way to the ground wired to maximum Let of a bit of steam then tug a few chicks for a all night bender
I love watching and reading about it Some of them battles you see on tv before the filth ruined it by handing out bigger jail terms than if you raped someone
Real great way to finish of a weeks work. Dress up nice wreck the train on way to the ground wired to maximum Let of a bit of steam then tug a few chicks for a all night bender
I had a shop in the 80's. This old bloke who was then in his 90's used to tell me about the pre and post match battles Donny, Scunny and Rotherham supporters used to have in the 1920's. They used to carry clubs, knives allsorts.
Didn't even get in the papers in those days.
Didn't even get in the papers in those days.
Watford v Millwall about 40 years ago we were only kids and my old man warned us not to go in rookery end where trouble would be-----so we went up other end and stood with "old men " as they were to us then---Watford scored and the "old men "of millwall went fooking mental-bottles blades you name it--Green street ---we ran for our lives 
whenever my older brother went to London he had to endure the risk of rival fans battling it out between themselves as well as against him and his fellow supporters, he was once in a very precarious - and trapped - state in one of the underground stations when from nowhere - train-full of Scottish rugby fans visiting Twickenham came to his rescue.
I truly believe the toughest of all fans throughout the late 70's - 80's were Cardiff city - and by a mile.
I truly believe the toughest of all fans throughout the late 70's - 80's were Cardiff city - and by a mile.
there was a famous prog on tv documenting their travels and on one occasion, a group of them - visiting Wrexham, were actually saying they had to get 'these english barstards.'
same documentary showed leeds fans actually complaining at Cardiff's ground they weren't being protected properly by the police!
cardiff away 83-84 season we drew 3-3 with them and took the piss all over there ground
there were a bunch of them not far from west ham's ground same day they were playing orient in cup and Liverpool playing hammers, west ham fans wouldn't go near them because they were all 15 stone monsters prob in their 30's and 40's.
Hibs v Sunderland in a pre-season friendly 2003
The biggest turnout of "lads" I've seen following Sunderland, around 11.30am about 70 Hibs come giving it the big one and then around 300 Sunderland lads come round the corner and chase Hibs down the street, catch up with them and its not an understatement to say Hibs lads were lying all over the road, never seen so much claret in one place. Lads slashing people with stanley blades man, horrible like.
As the "friendly" match was taking place, Sunderland smashed up 2 of their boozers near ground.
Gets back to Newcastle train station at 9pm where there was a pre-arranged meet with Newcastle's firm "The Gremlins", they totally underestimated how many Sunderland would turn up and only about 60 of them turned up, they got battered(well the ones that didn't run up Pink Lane), Sunderland then smashed up a bar called O'Neill's over road from station, tables flung through window, coppers just stood videoing it, didn't even attempt to stop it.
That day was certainly an eye opener.
The biggest turnout of "lads" I've seen following Sunderland, around 11.30am about 70 Hibs come giving it the big one and then around 300 Sunderland lads come round the corner and chase Hibs down the street, catch up with them and its not an understatement to say Hibs lads were lying all over the road, never seen so much claret in one place. Lads slashing people with stanley blades man, horrible like.
As the "friendly" match was taking place, Sunderland smashed up 2 of their boozers near ground.
Gets back to Newcastle train station at 9pm where there was a pre-arranged meet with Newcastle's firm "The Gremlins", they totally underestimated how many Sunderland would turn up and only about 60 of them turned up, they got battered(well the ones that didn't run up Pink Lane
), Sunderland then smashed up a bar called O'Neill's over road from station, tables flung through window, coppers just stood videoing it, didn't even attempt to stop it.That day was certainly an eye opener.
Yes, a lot of banning orders dished out after that game. Few lads who were due to fly to Portugal for Euro 2004 Championships got stopped from travelling as well.
Liverpool won 1-0 I left early shaking my head as thpo I was disappointed.
You must have been acting yourself, Tony!!!!
Don't really see much bother at Sundrland, generally only bother if you act yourself, like Man Utd did at the weekend!
Don't really see much bother at Sundrland, generally only bother if you act yourself, like Man Utd did at the weekend!
newcastle sunderland last year
some sunderland fans stormed a gay bar, seemingly some back doors got damaged
some sunderland fans stormed a gay bar, seemingly some back doors got damaged
I was also at the game at goodison when they got relegated,it was like a sunderland home game, famous for Coventry and Bristol city staying up while your lot went down after everton won, strangely didn't see any trouble that night anyway.
That Boro game, Tbag, I had the mis fortune to go the same boozer as the 'snorty forty' crew of mad Toffees going on a mission. I seriously thought about driving home before the game !
i was in copenhagen them few days,mental,turks driving around in cars,stopping and getting out axe,baseball bats etc from boot of car,no cops to be seen,scary
does anyone remember that play on tv about hooligans with gary oldman? which teams were the actors in it supposed to be supporting? was on a good while ago, oldman was middle class - worked as an estate agent I think
gary oldman was in the firm, based on west hams inter city firm also featured phil mitchell
i was only watching a few old films last week---the firm--green street---football factory--anymore ?
Bexy and his friends think of themselves as important, respected figures in their local community but Bexy's wife points out to him that the truth is somewhat different. Everyone thinks of him as a bit of a joke figure but because of their fear of his violent nature few are willing to point out to him that he isn't the working class hero he thinks he is.
(lol)
(lol)
I.D
Cass
Green Street by far the worst 'hooligan' film.
Cass
Green Street by far the worst 'hooligan' film.
i am racking my brains i thought i had them all on dvd---but i am sure there is one more famous one--i must be wrong
"the rattle of a simple man" is a good old one, the son from steptoe is the main character. is he called harry h corbett
think im going mental--so many of the faces appear in all of them-or films like essex boys--snatch--lock stock etc i get confused
Watched 'Awaydays recently', the soundtrack is great...
The film 'The Firm' as well...
Both films have there moments but like all films of a similar ilk are full of inaccuracies...
The film 'The Firm' as well...
Both films have there moments but like all films of a similar ilk are full of inaccuracies...
Awaydays is about a Scouse firm and how one lad joins the gang so the speak... no team is actually identified.
Makes a change from the West Ham angle that is normally portrayed...
Makes a change from the West Ham angle that is normally portrayed...
Colupaul...Awaydays is about a Tranmere firm if I remember right?
Yeah that would make sense dizzy... as it is set on Birkenhead...
Hope them boys still not about... I'm heading up there to see Colchester in a few weeks...
Hope them boys still not about... I'm heading up there to see Colchester in a few weeks...
brilliant will do mate----has there been a film on England
i know my boys used to follow England all over Europe--and one of their mates followed them all over world never even missed a friendly---they had some really good stories
Paul , keep an eye out for that bloke from This is England in his sheepskin coat, he's ready to rumble
Was at xmas at Charlton a few years back.
There was a Santa going round giving out presents and the crowd got well out of hand. Accusing him buttering up kids with presents and calling him a coont because he forgot their bikes.
All rather distateful. Got so bad at one point that the stewards had to resort to strong words.
There was a Santa going round giving out presents and the crowd got well out of hand. Accusing him buttering up kids with presents and calling him a coont because he forgot their bikes.
All rather distateful. Got so bad at one point that the stewards had to resort to strong words.
I was once at a football match and some ruffian grabbed my unopened bag of Smokey Bacon
He then squashed the bag so that all my crisps were in tiny bits...never went back again.
He then squashed the bag so that all my crisps were in tiny bits...never went back again.
Oct 9, 2013 -- 11:18PM, sofiakenny wrote:
I was once at a football match and some ruffian grabbed my unopened bag of Smokey BaconHe then squashed the bag so that all my crisps were in tiny bits...never went back again.
Was this at The Walkers stadium, Leicester?
Awaydays or awaygays as some called it was not only the best football fighting film But one if the best films for a long while
Makes my top 50 of all time
Makes my top 50 of all time
Birkenhead is not a good place to be tho parts of it have improved, somewhat.
my brother, who went to more games than I did, once went to west ham on a home james coach for an f a cup tie.
they arrived after the game had kicked off, so the fans on the coach all piled off and just began to enter the nearest turnstiles they could find, waiting just inside was a rather tough w ham fan, cigarette dangling from one corner of his mouth, who proceeded to beat up scousers who entered the stadium, this went on throughout the game as the other fans managed to get inside, then after the game bruv told me he and others just knocked on some old womans door and they stayed in her house for a while til things had calmed a little.
my brother, who went to more games than I did, once went to west ham on a home james coach for an f a cup tie.
they arrived after the game had kicked off, so the fans on the coach all piled off and just began to enter the nearest turnstiles they could find, waiting just inside was a rather tough w ham fan, cigarette dangling from one corner of his mouth, who proceeded to beat up scousers who entered the stadium, this went on throughout the game as the other fans managed to get inside, then after the game bruv told me he and others just knocked on some old womans door and they stayed in her house for a while til things had calmed a little.
Too many to mention for me and I am now retired what with my age and also the advance of camera phones and cctv
kellydamo---can you imagine them being around "in the good old days"
That would have been a right nightmare, think a lot of people would have been off the streets then, not just us football lot but the mods, ska lot, skinheads everyone !
attendences would be 2000 and 3000 prisons built in uk
exactly that mate, far to hard for a meet these days but there is the occasional one 
Sunday morning game ,Under 12,s ...brutal challenge from a big lad ...parents get involved ,next thing two middle aged milfs start rolling about , dads go toe to toe . ...then its a full on free for all ....ref runs away at speed ...kids crying/screeming .. dogs barking ...pure madness
cop cars descend on field of play ,... what a cup tie .
replay was an uneventful 1-0 win
miss the kids footie
cop cars descend on field of play ,... what a cup tie .
replay was an uneventful 1-0 win
miss the kids footie
been at hackney marshes when a young kid turns up looking for someone with a gun just when you think you have seen it all
did anyone see the league table for banning orders at football in todays paper ?
top---Cardiff-121
2nd--Chelsea--110
4th--Leeds--72
5th-Millwall65
bottom---Burton 0
4
top---Cardiff-121
2nd--Chelsea--110
4th--Leeds--72
5th-Millwall65
bottom---Burton 0
4
7 Newcastle fans jailed today for attacking police and horses after their defeat to Sunderland last April and more getting sentenced in next couple of weeks.
they say its all kicking off again---but will never be as bad as old days-IMO
Various sentences from 10 to 21 months, all from CCTV images.
Sunderland fans are fifth in arrests table – but Newcastle supporters top the trouble league
Newcastle United supporter Barry Rogerson, 45, who was caught on camera punching a police horse following Newcastle's defeat against Sunderland.
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SUNDERLAND AFC may be bottom of the Premier League at the minute – but the club’s supporters are comfortably top-half when it comes to arrests at matches.
According to new data released by the Home Office, the Black Cats are fifth in the table for arrests.
In the 2012/13 season, a total of 71 Sunderland fans were arrested at league fixtures, with 38 people being given football banning orders between November 2012 and last month.
Forty-five arrests were made at the Stadium of Light, with the rest coming at grounds where Black Cats supporters were in away seating areas.
Of the 71 arrests, 33 were for violent disorder, 16 for alcohol offences, 12 for public disorder, five for racist or indecent chanting, one for pitch incursion, one for possession or use of fires or flares and two for breaching banning orders.
Neighbours Newcastle United, however, top the list, with a recorded 175 arrests and 58 supporters banned from going to games.
Northumbria Police arrested scores of people after Sunderland’s 3-0 win over the Magpies in April, after violence flared in Newcastle city centre.
Champions Manchester United came second in the table with 145 arrests, with neighbours Manchester City on 95.
Chelsea were just ahead of Sunderland, on 92 arrests.
London club Fulham are bottom with six arrests and four bans for supporters.
The figures for arrests in all matches in the Football League and Premier League has risen by four per cent on the previous year.
SAFC safety and security manager Paul Weir said: “The safety and comfort of our supporters is always our utmost priority, and it’s not something we are willing to compromise. The club continues to work proactively with supporters groups and Northumbria Police, and we will continue to take a firm stance to ensure we provide a friendly, welcoming and safe environment for all fans.”
Newcastle United supporter Barry Rogerson, 45, who was caught on camera punching a police horse following Newcastle's defeat against Sunderland.
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SUNDERLAND AFC may be bottom of the Premier League at the minute – but the club’s supporters are comfortably top-half when it comes to arrests at matches.
According to new data released by the Home Office, the Black Cats are fifth in the table for arrests.
In the 2012/13 season, a total of 71 Sunderland fans were arrested at league fixtures, with 38 people being given football banning orders between November 2012 and last month.
Forty-five arrests were made at the Stadium of Light, with the rest coming at grounds where Black Cats supporters were in away seating areas.
Of the 71 arrests, 33 were for violent disorder, 16 for alcohol offences, 12 for public disorder, five for racist or indecent chanting, one for pitch incursion, one for possession or use of fires or flares and two for breaching banning orders.
Neighbours Newcastle United, however, top the list, with a recorded 175 arrests and 58 supporters banned from going to games.
Northumbria Police arrested scores of people after Sunderland’s 3-0 win over the Magpies in April, after violence flared in Newcastle city centre.
Champions Manchester United came second in the table with 145 arrests, with neighbours Manchester City on 95.
Chelsea were just ahead of Sunderland, on 92 arrests.
London club Fulham are bottom with six arrests and four bans for supporters.
The figures for arrests in all matches in the Football League and Premier League has risen by four per cent on the previous year.
SAFC safety and security manager Paul Weir said: “The safety and comfort of our supporters is always our utmost priority, and it’s not something we are willing to compromise. The club continues to work proactively with supporters groups and Northumbria Police, and we will continue to take a firm stance to ensure we provide a friendly, welcoming and safe environment for all fans.”
thats better than the crap i read---as they said on here last night----you have no chance now --they must know they are gonna get done
Details of criminal prosecutions have been released as those arrested for the Tyne-Wear derby disorder are due to appear in court.
Officers were drafted in from across the region to deal with Sunday’s sell-out fixture on Tyneside with more than 50,000 supporters attending St James’ Park.
In both Sunderland and Newcastle, officers were out from early on Sunday morning, visiting bars and pubs and speaking to fans.
A total of 29 arrests were made throughout the day - five before the match in Newcastle and eight inside the stadium during the game.
After the match, four arrests were made in Sunderland and 12 in Newcastle.
Details of criminal prosecutions have been released as those arrested for the Tyne-Wear derby disorder are due to appear in court.
Officers were drafted in from across the region to deal with Sunday’s sell-out fixture on Tyneside with more than 50,000 supporters attending St James’ Park.
In both Sunderland and Newcastle, officers were out from early on Sunday morning, visiting bars and pubs and speaking to fans.
A total of 29 arrests were made throughout the day - five before the match in Newcastle and eight inside the stadium during the game.
After the match, four arrests were made in Sunderland and 12 in Newcastle.
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Before the game in Newcastle, three men aged 40, 37 and 27 arrested for affray and a man aged 31 was arrested for disorderly conduct, all bailed pending further inquiries.
Meanwhile Craig McGee, 31, of Hutton Grove in Haswell, Durham, was charged with causing fear or provocation of violence and is due to appear at Sunderland Mags on May 9.
During the fixture flares and smoke grenades were hurled at opposing fans. Two men aged 21 and 20 were arrested for public order offences and bailed. A 31-year-old man was arrested for possessing a firework or flare at a sports event and bailed and a man aged 21 was arrested for disorderly conduct and bailed.
A 53-year-old man was cautioned for being drunk in a sports ground.
Michael Briggs, 27, of Strandford Road in Seaham, was charged with being drunk and disorderly and will appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 13.
Daniel Purvis, 24, Fieldway, Jarrow, South Tyneside, is charged with possessing a firework or flare at a sports event and will appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 13.
Craig Lee Stanworth, 21, of Dean Park in Ferryhill, Co. Durham, is charged with disorderly conduct and will appear at Newcastle Magistrates’ Court on May 9.
Following the game, officers continued their operation in Sunderland. Two men aged 30 were given fixed penalty notices for being drunk and disorderly, and a 24-year-old man was arrested for criminal damage and bailed pending further enquiries. Anthony Paul Holyoak, 21, of Brandling Street in Roker is charged with drunk and disorderly and is due to appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 1.
On Tyneside three men aged 32, 20 and 44 and a woman aged 21 received penalty notices for being drunk and disorderly while a 25-year-old man received a summons for being drunk and disorderly.
Two men aged 19 were arrested for affray and bailed, while a 25 year-old man arrested for assault has also been bailed.
Four males arrested on suspicion of violent disorder - one aged 45 arrested by Northumbria Police following an incident involving a police horse - and two men aged 41 and 18 and a youth aged 15 arrested by British Transport Police - have also been bailed pending further inquiries.
Chief Supt Steve Neill said: “I want to reiterate that the vast majority of football supporters were well behaved on Sunday, with just a handful of arrests made before the game and just eight inside the stadium during the match.
“Disappointingly, there was some disorder following the match in the city centre. I want to stress that this happened in a very small area of the city, which was quickly contained by officers and at no point did officers lose control of the situation.
“The people involved were making attempts to confront Sunderland supporters being brought into the city in a foot escort from the stadium, but due to the police presence, were unsuccessful and started confronting officers instead.
“We are very experienced at dealing with situations such as this and officers worked swiftly to contain the situation. I’d like to commend all officers and staff involved in the operation for their professionalism and bravery in returning Newcastle city centre back to normality quickly.”
An investigation is now underway to ensure anyone involved in disorder is identified.
Chief Supt Neill added: “It’s possible the people involved hadn’t even been to the match and in no way do they reflect the tens of thousands of true football supporters who attended the game to enjoy the occasion and support their team.
“There no place for violence in football and any disorder is completely unacceptable. Our ultimate aim is the safety of the public and an investigation is underway to trace those involved in this disruption following the match and ensure action is taken.
“I’d appeal for anyone who has information about those involved or who has mobile phone footage of the incident to contact police, anonymously as necessary, as soon as possible.”
Officers were drafted in from across the region to deal with Sunday’s sell-out fixture on Tyneside with more than 50,000 supporters attending St James’ Park.
In both Sunderland and Newcastle, officers were out from early on Sunday morning, visiting bars and pubs and speaking to fans.
A total of 29 arrests were made throughout the day - five before the match in Newcastle and eight inside the stadium during the game.
After the match, four arrests were made in Sunderland and 12 in Newcastle.
Details of criminal prosecutions have been released as those arrested for the Tyne-Wear derby disorder are due to appear in court.
Officers were drafted in from across the region to deal with Sunday’s sell-out fixture on Tyneside with more than 50,000 supporters attending St James’ Park.
In both Sunderland and Newcastle, officers were out from early on Sunday morning, visiting bars and pubs and speaking to fans.
A total of 29 arrests were made throughout the day - five before the match in Newcastle and eight inside the stadium during the game.
After the match, four arrests were made in Sunderland and 12 in Newcastle.
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Tyne-Wear derby riots
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Before the game in Newcastle, three men aged 40, 37 and 27 arrested for affray and a man aged 31 was arrested for disorderly conduct, all bailed pending further inquiries.
Meanwhile Craig McGee, 31, of Hutton Grove in Haswell, Durham, was charged with causing fear or provocation of violence and is due to appear at Sunderland Mags on May 9.
During the fixture flares and smoke grenades were hurled at opposing fans. Two men aged 21 and 20 were arrested for public order offences and bailed. A 31-year-old man was arrested for possessing a firework or flare at a sports event and bailed and a man aged 21 was arrested for disorderly conduct and bailed.
A 53-year-old man was cautioned for being drunk in a sports ground.
Michael Briggs, 27, of Strandford Road in Seaham, was charged with being drunk and disorderly and will appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 13.
Daniel Purvis, 24, Fieldway, Jarrow, South Tyneside, is charged with possessing a firework or flare at a sports event and will appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 13.
Craig Lee Stanworth, 21, of Dean Park in Ferryhill, Co. Durham, is charged with disorderly conduct and will appear at Newcastle Magistrates’ Court on May 9.
Following the game, officers continued their operation in Sunderland. Two men aged 30 were given fixed penalty notices for being drunk and disorderly, and a 24-year-old man was arrested for criminal damage and bailed pending further enquiries. Anthony Paul Holyoak, 21, of Brandling Street in Roker is charged with drunk and disorderly and is due to appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 1.
On Tyneside three men aged 32, 20 and 44 and a woman aged 21 received penalty notices for being drunk and disorderly while a 25-year-old man received a summons for being drunk and disorderly.
Two men aged 19 were arrested for affray and bailed, while a 25 year-old man arrested for assault has also been bailed.
Four males arrested on suspicion of violent disorder - one aged 45 arrested by Northumbria Police following an incident involving a police horse - and two men aged 41 and 18 and a youth aged 15 arrested by British Transport Police - have also been bailed pending further inquiries.
Chief Supt Steve Neill said: “I want to reiterate that the vast majority of football supporters were well behaved on Sunday, with just a handful of arrests made before the game and just eight inside the stadium during the match.
“Disappointingly, there was some disorder following the match in the city centre. I want to stress that this happened in a very small area of the city, which was quickly contained by officers and at no point did officers lose control of the situation.
“The people involved were making attempts to confront Sunderland supporters being brought into the city in a foot escort from the stadium, but due to the police presence, were unsuccessful and started confronting officers instead.
“We are very experienced at dealing with situations such as this and officers worked swiftly to contain the situation. I’d like to commend all officers and staff involved in the operation for their professionalism and bravery in returning Newcastle city centre back to normality quickly.”
An investigation is now underway to ensure anyone involved in disorder is identified.
Chief Supt Neill added: “It’s possible the people involved hadn’t even been to the match and in no way do they reflect the tens of thousands of true football supporters who attended the game to enjoy the occasion and support their team.
“There no place for violence in football and any disorder is completely unacceptable. Our ultimate aim is the safety of the public and an investigation is underway to trace those involved in this disruption following the match and ensure action is taken.
“I’d appeal for anyone who has information about those involved or who has mobile phone footage of the incident to contact police, anonymously as necessary, as soon as possible.”
Specialist football violence unit scrapped just months before derby day disorder
A task force charged with cracking down on football violence was scrapped just months before Tyneside’s derby day disorder.
Undercover spotters with experience of weeding out known “risk supporters” were relocated to area commands across the region.
Northumbria Police’s specialist football unit, set up to prevent scenes like those witnessed after last week’s Tyne-Wear derby in which Newcastle fans pelted police with missiles, now operates within a central crime and intelligence unit.
Radical changes implemented in November last year are thought to have been sparked by an internal review of the “force business”, and the Chronicle understands the force’s football liaison officer has been scrapped.
A spokesman for Northumbria Police said dedicated officers still exist to “link in with forces both across the country and internationally” to plan matches, but admitted they were also responsible for other roles.
Some specialist officers deployed elsewhere have been brought back for fixtures at St James’ Park, but this has not stopped an outbreak of disorder over recent months.
Flares and smoke bombs have been ignited, while travelling Newcastle supporters caused chaos when they stormed an amateur football game in Wigan to stage a 40-minute rampage.
Phil Butler, who ran as the Conservative candidate for the Police and Crime Commissioner post following a 30-year career as a detective with Northumbria Police, said: “When you divert resources into one area it can be to the detriment of everything else. These are trained officers who have been recruited and trained at significant public expense.
“Not only that but, with the football intelligence unit, you’ve lost years and years of organisational memory.”
Hundreds of fans who have been at the centre of disorder at North East football grounds have been handed football banning orders during the unit’s 10-year lifespan.
Yesterday, Acting Chief Constable Jim Campbell said the re-structure would help provide “specialist services” for match days as well as taking into account “all the events taking place in the force area on that day”.
But fears have been raised that, without a specialist team, the tough approach would be lost and less of the known football thugs would be identified.
A source said: “Both Newcastle and Sunderland had a football liaison officer but they don’t exist anymore.
“Why would you disband that unit in the middle of the season?
“It was absolutely ludicrous. It’s no coincidence that this disorder coincides with the disbanding of the football intelligence unit.”
Acting Chief Cons Campbell said the new move would help deliver a “more coordinated approach”.
He said: “The policing operation around a football match involves a number of functions, including liaising with clubs, monitoring football-related intelligence, gathering evidence and watching for known troublemakers.
“All of these functions are still an important part of how we prepare for and monitor football fixtures.
“In order to provide a more coordinated approach, these have all been integrated into the wider intelligence and planning functions.
“This enables us to provide the specialist services required for policing football in the context of the wider policing picture, ensuring the planning takes into account all the events taking place in the force area on that day.”
A spokesman denied there was an internal “integrity report” but said a “review of the way we carry out all aspects of force business” had sparked the changes.
He said: “One of the results of the review was that each club was allocated a lead match commander who has a close working relationship with both clubs on all aspects of football issues.” A spokesman for Northumbria police and crime commissioner Vera Baird said all operational matters should be referred to Chief Constable Sue Sim.
Chi Onwurah, MP for Newcastle Central, said: “Clearly football intelligence needs to be resourced and prioritised, with clear responsibility and reporting.
“Given the level of violence at the Newcastle and Sunderland match, it is hard to conclude that that was the case.”
A task force charged with cracking down on football violence was scrapped just months before Tyneside’s derby day disorder.
Undercover spotters with experience of weeding out known “risk supporters” were relocated to area commands across the region.
Northumbria Police’s specialist football unit, set up to prevent scenes like those witnessed after last week’s Tyne-Wear derby in which Newcastle fans pelted police with missiles, now operates within a central crime and intelligence unit.
Radical changes implemented in November last year are thought to have been sparked by an internal review of the “force business”, and the Chronicle understands the force’s football liaison officer has been scrapped.
A spokesman for Northumbria Police said dedicated officers still exist to “link in with forces both across the country and internationally” to plan matches, but admitted they were also responsible for other roles.
Some specialist officers deployed elsewhere have been brought back for fixtures at St James’ Park, but this has not stopped an outbreak of disorder over recent months.
Flares and smoke bombs have been ignited, while travelling Newcastle supporters caused chaos when they stormed an amateur football game in Wigan to stage a 40-minute rampage.
Phil Butler, who ran as the Conservative candidate for the Police and Crime Commissioner post following a 30-year career as a detective with Northumbria Police, said: “When you divert resources into one area it can be to the detriment of everything else. These are trained officers who have been recruited and trained at significant public expense.
“Not only that but, with the football intelligence unit, you’ve lost years and years of organisational memory.”
Hundreds of fans who have been at the centre of disorder at North East football grounds have been handed football banning orders during the unit’s 10-year lifespan.
Yesterday, Acting Chief Constable Jim Campbell said the re-structure would help provide “specialist services” for match days as well as taking into account “all the events taking place in the force area on that day”.
But fears have been raised that, without a specialist team, the tough approach would be lost and less of the known football thugs would be identified.
A source said: “Both Newcastle and Sunderland had a football liaison officer but they don’t exist anymore.
“Why would you disband that unit in the middle of the season?
“It was absolutely ludicrous. It’s no coincidence that this disorder coincides with the disbanding of the football intelligence unit.”
Acting Chief Cons Campbell said the new move would help deliver a “more coordinated approach”.
He said: “The policing operation around a football match involves a number of functions, including liaising with clubs, monitoring football-related intelligence, gathering evidence and watching for known troublemakers.
“All of these functions are still an important part of how we prepare for and monitor football fixtures.
“In order to provide a more coordinated approach, these have all been integrated into the wider intelligence and planning functions.
“This enables us to provide the specialist services required for policing football in the context of the wider policing picture, ensuring the planning takes into account all the events taking place in the force area on that day.”
A spokesman denied there was an internal “integrity report” but said a “review of the way we carry out all aspects of force business” had sparked the changes.
He said: “One of the results of the review was that each club was allocated a lead match commander who has a close working relationship with both clubs on all aspects of football issues.” A spokesman for Northumbria police and crime commissioner Vera Baird said all operational matters should be referred to Chief Constable Sue Sim.
Chi Onwurah, MP for Newcastle Central, said: “Clearly football intelligence needs to be resourced and prioritised, with clear responsibility and reporting.
“Given the level of violence at the Newcastle and Sunderland match, it is hard to conclude that that was the case.”
Bristol City top the league for banning orders 
Likely to be more tomorrow after pictures of those wanted for involvement in the handbags after the Rovers match are published.
What goes on today bears no comparison to what used to go on.
Likely to be more tomorrow after pictures of those wanted for involvement in the handbags after the Rovers match are published.What goes on today bears no comparison to what used to go on.
It's well known that the police will arrest you for virtually anything at football games. I've never been involved in trouble (at football or away from football), but cos I like a drink, I've been lucky not to get arrested on several occasions.
And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.
It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.
#ACAB
And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.
It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.
#ACAB
It's well known that the police will arrest you for virtually anything at football games. I've never been involved in trouble (at football or away from football), but cos I like a drink, I've been lucky not to get arrested on several occasions.
And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.
It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.
#ACAB
And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.
It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.
#ACAB
Oct 11, 2013 -- 12:53AM, what do i do now? wrote:
It's well known that the police will arrest you for virtually anything at football games. I've never been involved in trouble (at football or away from football), but cos I like a drink, I've been lucky not to get arrested on several occasions.And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.#ACAB
Spot on
Interesting thread. In Australia, we don't have these issues. The odd punch up between drunks or people throwing **** on the field at the footy or cricket is big news. Worst thing I've seen was a basketball match. Turkey vs Yugoslavia, a line of cops and security in the middle whilst inside the stadium was broken, action piled out to Margaret Court Arena outside (the game was at Rod Laver Arena where the Oz Open Tennis is). About 100 people brawling and burning flags.
We are lightweights in Oz when talking hooliganism, a good thing really.
We are lightweights in Oz when talking hooliganism, a good thing really.
Been to a few of these Germany v England 2000 Charleroi vowed never to go to an England game again, today I will breaking that rule for the first time, the supporters that day were shameful. Great atmosphere though.
Copenhagen Arse v galatasary (coonts) great the way loads of British firms gave it to them that day, heard all sorts of b#llshit about what happened lets just say I tried to buy some Danes a beer in the square before the game! they didn't want to know, and probably rightly so, always had a soft spot for Leeds since those days.
Worst in Britain was borough away 1977 or 78 trouble all over the ground before during and after , darts etc they even put up a massive screen between the fans, going back to the station was carnage, never seen so much claret.
Biggest rush watching 500 wolves bottle it outside against 27 arsenal Friday night 1980 after we,d just lost to west ham in the fa cup final on the Saturday and Valencia in Brussels on the Wednesday up at the old molineux in the south bank days.
Copenhagen Arse v galatasary (coonts) great the way loads of British firms gave it to them that day, heard all sorts of b#llshit about what happened lets just say I tried to buy some Danes a beer in the square before the game! they didn't want to know, and probably rightly so, always had a soft spot for Leeds since those days.
Worst in Britain was borough away 1977 or 78 trouble all over the ground before during and after , darts etc they even put up a massive screen between the fans, going back to the station was carnage, never seen so much claret.
Biggest rush watching 500 wolves bottle it outside against 27 arsenal Friday night 1980 after we,d just lost to west ham in the fa cup final on the Saturday and Valencia in Brussels on the Wednesday up at the old molineux in the south bank days.
Man Utd away at Norwich 1977. We traveled from Rochdale bus station to the game...I was 17. It was insanity from start to finish. Some poor sod fell through the stand roof and onto the stone steps of the stand and got carted onto the pitch and while he was laying at death's door on a stretcher the Norwich lads ran onto the pitch to give him a good shoeing.
Alex Stepney nearly had his head sliced off by something that looked like a 12x12 piece of sheet metal...only just missed him. There was so much going on it's hard to list it all. It was a long time ago but that one sticks in my mind as the worst ever. It doesn't really paint the true picture but there's a few vids on youtube about it...like this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCWO1U7vaQ
Alex Stepney nearly had his head sliced off by something that looked like a 12x12 piece of sheet metal...only just missed him. There was so much going on it's hard to list it all. It was a long time ago but that one sticks in my mind as the worst ever. It doesn't really paint the true picture but there's a few vids on youtube about it...like this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCWO1U7vaQ
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