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JamDav1982
19 Feb 13 21:29
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Never heard such biased commentary towards a player.

Praise anything he does then give excuses when he is poor.
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Report 1st time poster • February 19, 2013 9:31 PM GMT
yep not his fault but give it away continualy all night,just not coming off but dont dress it up as though he,s having a stormer
Report TheChaser • February 19, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
Over rated like Luke Chadwick
Report JamDav1982 • February 19, 2013 9:34 PM GMT
I think he is a good player but at one point he had a terrible touch and had to tackle the player and all the said is 'thats the tenacity of Wilshere'. Then he put in a poor cross and its because he is shattered because he has been running about so much.
Report TheChaser • February 19, 2013 9:36 PM GMT
Was it Townsend who said it
Report jermaine defonebox • February 19, 2013 9:42 PM GMT
Dreadful performance still cocksure in interveiw   
Head down charge fall over injured most over rated player in the prem
Report MadVlad • February 19, 2013 9:44 PM GMT
I presume he has a buy out clause in his new 5-year contract ?
Report bobtoe • February 19, 2013 9:44 PM GMT
He had some good moments and some poor moments, Javi Martinez on the otherhand was class
Report Regular Fries • February 19, 2013 9:45 PM GMT
Sounds like Ricky Gervais's 'Derek'
Report MadVlad • February 19, 2013 9:45 PM GMT
jermaine defonebox
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Dreadful performance still cocksure in interveiw   
Head down charge fall over injured most over rated player in the prem


^ Was this the same player everyone was raving about after the England v Brazil match ? Crazy

only on betfair Laugh
Report Can't Catch Me • February 19, 2013 9:46 PM GMT
Did Ok against a very, very good side. Still think he's a class act myself.
Report JamDav1982 • February 19, 2013 9:47 PM GMT
I think he is a class act as well but the commentators etc seem blinded by him at all times.
Report TheChaser • February 19, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
He reminded me of a young Jody Morris
Report Rainier Wolfcastle • February 19, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
The cream rises to the top when the chips are down and he was shyte tonight. Let's call a spade a spade here. Like all Arsenal players, he looks great when they have 60% of the ball against teams who only want to defend against them.
Report blackburn1 • February 19, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
Good player but like all arse youngsters overrated.

Oxladede was the new Messi this time last year
Report MadVlad • February 19, 2013 9:51 PM GMT
feckin hell he is only 20 talk about harsh crowd Shocked
Report pugilist • February 19, 2013 9:52 PM GMT
will show his true class when he signs for Utd in the summer.
Report the bloob • February 19, 2013 9:53 PM GMT
I didn't think he was that bad, he gave the ball away attempting difficult passes. There aren't many better at moving with the ball than Wilshere. If he was giving it away passing sideways I could understand the criticism
Report berto77 • February 19, 2013 9:54 PM GMT
Not great tonight (in a stinker of an Arsenal performance) but he remains a class act.
Report hitmanhearn • February 19, 2013 9:54 PM GMT
He is a good player but too much resposibility on him its not fair.They go on as if hes the saviour of English football.
Report going skint • February 19, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
the pundits job is to fawn over the top players
given the opportunity most pundits would happily swallow the semen of the top players
Report dr . atkins • February 19, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
worth 30million plus
Report Rainier Wolfcastle • February 19, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
More importantly, why is JW the one having to face the music after the game at only 20 years of age? Wenger is beyond reproach in the media, but where are the senior players to take responsibility?
Report berto77 • February 19, 2013 9:56 PM GMT
Clever move, Gabriel won't ask JW any probing questions.
Report jermaine defonebox • February 19, 2013 9:56 PM GMT
Always on the floor seems to have very little sense of balance.
Quite a nasty little c unt as well   Will almost certainly end a couple of players careers before he's thirty
Report Captain Christy • February 19, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
They always latch onto 1 player, god knows Arsenal have an absolute ragbag apart from him.
Report Rainier Wolfcastle • February 19, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
Lol berto Laugh
Report Roger De Bris • February 19, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
the new Scott Minto...
Report Solano1 • February 19, 2013 9:58 PM GMT
Only one who speaks the Queens English, innit guv?

The second rate Frenchies can't even speak the lingo.
Report TheChaser • February 19, 2013 10:03 PM GMT


Roger De Bris
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the new Scott Minto...


Laugh
Report jimmy4england • February 19, 2013 10:08 PM GMT
The idiot on Talksport says he's better than Bale though !!!  hahahaha
Report the bloob • February 19, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
anybody that can't see that this lad is a real talent is a poor judge of a player, he's already the player that England are building their team around. I know England are pretty poor at the moment but this kid is the brightest talent we've had in a long time
Report Solano1 • February 19, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
He'll have to go some to catch Bale.

But is better, and far more consistent than Bale was at the same age.
Report Can't Catch Me • February 19, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
Spot on bloob.
Report geordie1956 • February 19, 2013 10:39 PM GMT
The top players can play well Individually despite a poor team performance - jack the lad cannot do that - somewhat overrated I'm afraid -if England try to create a team around him then we have a lot more disappointment to come
Report the bloob • February 19, 2013 10:45 PM GMT
he's 21 and has already missed 15 months through injury, if he continues to improve then he'll be some player in a couple of years time

Gazza, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard were not England regulars at the same age and none of them had the bad injury like Wilshere

Wilshere didn't have that bad a game tonight, maybe not his best but look at the opposition. Last week Ronaldo do very little apart from the headed goal, does that make him a bad player?
Report Emden • February 19, 2013 10:49 PM GMT
Gary's brother?
Report Rainier Wolfcastle • February 19, 2013 10:56 PM GMT
The Ronaldo comparison is shocking. Ronaldo didn't have a great game, but buried the one chance that came his way with an exquisite header. That's what really great players do even when they aren't on song - come up with game-changing moments.

Another joke was Phil Mcnulty hailing the Arsenal fans' support on the BBC tonight - the same fans that booed off the team at HT.
Report Suso30 • February 20, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
It amazes me that some people genuinely think he was 'injured' for 15 months Crazy
Report jermaine defonebox • February 20, 2013 7:38 AM GMT
Yeah there were a lot that said other reasons
Report hitmanhearn • February 20, 2013 7:44 AM GMT
Where was he then? Am i missing something?
Report elisjohn • February 20, 2013 7:47 AM GMT
hes only 20, george best was european player of the year at that age, wiltshire another beckham an overated english player
Report jermaine defonebox • February 20, 2013 8:45 AM GMT
Some say not me that he had an injury but then had the old nose bag on   Personally I think hes a weird shape very small  and as he was growing things were busting all over the place   Theo went like it
Report polab • February 20, 2013 9:15 AM GMT
Will end up with the same sort of career Joe Cole has had.

We have been waiting for an English player to be called amongst the very best in the world for a long time and all the players touted as such have disappointed.

Gazza, Joe Cole, Michael Owen, Rooney..and Wilshere will be the next.
Report DeSSieReborn • February 20, 2013 9:25 AM GMT
The lad is a shining star in a crap team. However unless he moves to get better players around him and share the workload, he is going to be a spent force or become a sick note.
Report ZingZangZong • February 20, 2013 12:04 PM GMT
The press love Wilshere but what has he ever done? He has only ever scored 2 goals at senior level.

Bayern just lapped up his crap passing last night. If you were being extremely kind you would describe his performance as naive.

And what on earth was he doing wearing a Bayern Munich shirt for his post match interview. Arsenal got well and truly spanked, he personally had a nightmare of a game and he wants to wear a ****' souvenir!
Report jlay72 • February 20, 2013 12:40 PM GMT
I've seen Jack Wiltshere play and he's good at keeping the ball but 90% of the balls he plays are sideways....he does flatter to deceive. I don't see him playing a killer ball that often. He's a good player and he's one of the few players that feels comfortable with the ball but does lack penetration.
Report sonofshinner • February 20, 2013 12:40 PM GMT
at least wilshere looked like he was trying,cant say that about the rest especialy that left back.
Report R0ykeane • February 20, 2013 12:41 PM GMT
Didn't see the game so can't comment in full but on one hand I've seen some say he had a good game and proved how good he is and others say he had one.

As usual I am sure people are not really factoring the impact of team performance on the individual.
Report jlay72 • February 20, 2013 12:46 PM GMT
Sounds like Ricky Gervais's 'Derek' Laugh

"Theo Theo Theo Theo"
Report DeSSieReborn • February 20, 2013 12:47 PM GMT
Comments re Wilshere very harsh imho. Stood out and battled almost single handedly at times. Walcott was practically non existant and you have to wonder what is wrong with him.
Report ZingZangZong • February 20, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
Wilshere battled but was clueless & useless.

What is wrong with Theo? He signed a big money deal at Arsenal rather than moving to a club where he who could win silverware. Yet another well off young millionaire leading a cushy life.
Report scara_manga • February 20, 2013 1:27 PM GMT
Massively overrated player. Will be playing in the Championship within 5 years with someone like Ipswich .
Report R0ykeane • February 20, 2013 1:29 PM GMT
He signed a big money deal at Arsenal rather than moving to a club where he who could win silverware

Tell me which club he could have signed for that fulfilled this criteria AND got a game...
Report REDUNDANT PUNTER • February 20, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
If he were to sign for united he would be the worlds best midfirelder, and future england captain before the ink dried, after that he would pfa player of the year and sports personalty of the year also, but that might take at least two weeks
Report ZingZangZong • February 20, 2013 2:32 PM GMT
It is true Walcott would not be an automatic starter at United but he could have fought for a place just like Nani & Young do.
Report kellydamo • February 20, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
some blind unts on this thread, bookmarked to bring it up in a couple of years to mug off the haters
Report magnum180 • February 20, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
Thought he played well last night, sooner have in my team then Carrick!

Reminds me off a young Paul Gascoigne but with a left foot.
Report jermaine defonebox • February 20, 2013 8:29 PM GMT
2 goals that says it all      Spends too much time  on the floor breaking up the play. IMO it has ruined arsenals flow since he's been back. I logged a game where he spent over 7 minutes laying on the floor with or without trainers   Every time arsenal got playing down he'd go
He's also very unfit blowing like a prostitute after 70 mins yday
If some mugs gonna pay 30 m I'd drive him there myself
One trick pony head down charge flick ball right fall down
Report ZingZangZong • February 20, 2013 8:37 PM GMT
Reminds me off a young Paul Gascoigne but with a left foot.

Surely a young Lionel Messi but with a club foot.
Report big_dunc • February 20, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
He does sulk like a prima donna. He was taken out at one stage when Arsenal were pushing for an equaliser, but legally, as the defender got the ball. He stayed down because the ref didn't give him the free kick that he wanted, not because he was injured. Arsenal won the ball back in midfield to attack again but he was still down on the edge of the box. The attack fizzled out and then he gets up again and is running around. I'm not saying he won't become a top player, but he's a million miles off being one now and his attitude stinks.
Report homefortea • February 20, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
Jesus jermaine...

I have been banging on about him falling over in the opposition box for years to break up play.

It is something the awful Wenger has been teaching and that is why he (Wenger) is no role model and should never have been allowed to coach in the Premier League.

I thought that I was the only one who had seen the pumpkin headed cheating person trying to take an advantage....
Report jermaine defonebox • February 20, 2013 8:45 PM GMT
I don't see what he brings to the team can't score don't do free kicks corners a liability everytime  he tackles makes scholes seem careful. Dreadful ball hog
All round attention seeker certain to get in some trouble off field potential future joey Barton unless he gets the right manager
Report 1st time poster • February 20, 2013 8:47 PM GMT
one of them senior goals against leeds,to be fair you couldnt put a dvd of his best moments of his career together to justify anywhere near the hype he,s recieving,praise of wenger counts for nought as he,s said the same about 50 young kids prior to wiltshire yet to  turn up against utd,city, l,pool or a big european club,and he was bog average last night,

and like the good old forum we are we dont judge him against bayern players but against the games biggest cheater walcott, Laugh
Report homefortea • February 20, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
I am not sure Walcott is good enough to cheat...
Report jermaine defonebox • February 20, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
Forums been a bit better last few days bit of anger back about 
A lot of the players read or hear about what's said bout them. Good for them to hear a few home truths   
Good for motivation of a player not performing.
You notice a lot more when your had a hundred on something.
Most people on here probably notice more than the guys that write in the papers
Fact is jacks been average since he's been back played well against brazil and everyone goes berserk
Report DonNo1 • February 20, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
This thread is a prime example of how clueless some people are yet like to dish out opinion as fact. 

Wilshere has spent about 80% of Arsenal's games as the deepest lying midfielder, done by Wenger to develop his all round game.  It's a matter of weeks he's been playing as the attacking midfielder, which is probably the most technical position on the pitch.  He's leaning, he'll be deadly when he reads when to offload the ball and make certain runs.  Cesc hardly got any goals or assists in his first 80 odd Arsenal games.

The only negative in his game is his milking of injuries when he gets a knock
Report homefortea • February 20, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
DonNo1

He certainly is "leaning"...

He is leaning me towards never watching football again the pumpkin headed cheating bas tard....
Report ZingZangZong • February 20, 2013 9:17 PM GMT
2 senior goals.

Most full backs do better than that.
Report stonecold- • February 20, 2013 9:21 PM GMT
superb player only gonna get better.cant believe some of the comments on here
Report DonNo1 • February 20, 2013 9:28 PM GMT
Makelele managed 2 goals for Chelsea in 144 games, didn't see that as an issue
Report homefortea • February 20, 2013 9:32 PM GMT
If he was a Man Utd player would have been given his papers at Halloween.....
Report jermaine defonebox • February 21, 2013 9:23 AM GMT
Apart from the pathetic two goals. I'm struggling to remember ten shots in his career. To build an England team around him is the biggest joke I've heard lampard and gerrard score more in a month still than and there on there last legs
Wants to spend less time rolling around on the floor more time  shooting at goal
Also needs to learn a few shapes and tricks he has none not one trick   I don't even think he ever changes direction
Report ZingZangZong • February 21, 2013 9:48 AM GMT
What baffles me is why the press & Arsenal fans love him.

He doesn't score goals
He doesn't have good close control
His long range passing is more miss than hit

He must suck a lot of ****
Report spaceship • February 21, 2013 9:49 AM GMT
polab  20 Feb 13 09:15
"We have been waiting for an English player to be called amongst the very best in the world for a long time and all the players touted as such have disappointed.

Gazza, Joe Cole, Michael Owen, Rooney..and Wilshere will be the next".


The chances of it happening (an English player to be called amongst the very best in the world) are very slim.

It would require an English kid to (be born) or move to a foreign country such as Latin Europe or South America at a very young age, be coached there and then play in a league where skill and technique is continously developed. Exposure to the EPL, at any stage, is a definite no-no.

So I'd say the chances of an English Messi or Ronaldo are about 1 in a million.
Report DeSSieReborn • February 21, 2013 9:58 AM GMT
Some very harsh words on here for probably the brightest english prospect we've seen for a while. He, along wih the likes of Cleverley, Welbeck, Sturridge, Oxlade Chamberlain, Zaha are Englands attacking future so the sooner we get to like it the better. The lad has missed a full season out of his career but he is now starting to look a fine player again.
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