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In last 3 or 4 years supposedly. Any guesses?
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Think it was further back, when Liverpool won it in 2005. Down 3-0 at half time!? Fix.
Anyway, was about to post about this.
So the match fixing is bigger than they thought according to the BBC with hundreds of officials, players and club officials involved and it all leads back to the Asians.
Anyway, was about to post about this.
So the match fixing is bigger than they thought according to the BBC with hundreds of officials, players and club officials involved and it all leads back to the Asians.
So if anyone on here had prior knowledge of these alleged 380 fixed matches would you A- Go to the police and report your concerns or B- lump on ?
Liverpool v besiktas was 2007.
Statement says "The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in "last three or four years"
Statement says "The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in "last three or four years"
I would B, then when the monies in my account go A
man u v roma????? cant remember how long ago now but there was an epic thread on here about it. Maybe someone could bump it.
There is nothing in that article that is really surprising. I know we always hear this no match fixing in England, it's an Eastern European problem - but does anyone truly believe this?
The Champions League thing doesn't surprise me either, you get a lot of dead rubber games or teams to be winning to go through. Eg. teams needing to catch up about a 7 goal difference. The English teams are often already qualified by the last game in group stages, and have suffered some bad losses in those games - are they taking their eye off the ball, or is something more sinister in action.
The Champions League thing doesn't surprise me either, you get a lot of dead rubber games or teams to be winning to go through. Eg. teams needing to catch up about a 7 goal difference. The English teams are often already qualified by the last game in group stages, and have suffered some bad losses in those games - are they taking their eye off the ball, or is something more sinister in action.
Its more likey to have been a group game, probably not one of the ones you would expect, chelsea v barca had plenty of people calling fix
however proably a much less conspicuous event imo
however proably a much less conspicuous event imo
World Cup 2010 had some clear fix by referee pattern in games. Ghana v Australia I watched this game and it was clear, referee do everything to get Ghana result. At time only African team to have chance in group, first time world cup in Africa, football is like this from top, not just criminal gang in Asia....Yes people who run fifa, Uefa, are biggest criminals
" people who run fifa, Uefa, are biggest criminals "
sad but true....
sad but true....
What do you want? Most of the people who have power in their hands are criminals in some way, not only in football
n88uk 04 Feb 13 11:36
There is nothing in that article that is really surprising. I know we always hear this no match fixing in England, it's an Eastern European problem - but does anyone truly believe this?
You'd have to be very naive to believe that the world's most watched league that is extremely popular in Asia, has never had a match fixed by an Asian betting syndicate.
there have been previous cases of floodlights going to get games abandoned. I also remember an incident involving a Charlton v Liverpool game years ago when the floodlights were again supposed to go out mid-game but the syndicate were stitched up when one security guard went to the police.
There is nothing in that article that is really surprising. I know we always hear this no match fixing in England, it's an Eastern European problem - but does anyone truly believe this?
You'd have to be very naive to believe that the world's most watched league that is extremely popular in Asia, has never had a match fixed by an Asian betting syndicate.
there have been previous cases of floodlights going to get games abandoned. I also remember an incident involving a Charlton v Liverpool game years ago when the floodlights were again supposed to go out mid-game but the syndicate were stitched up when one security guard went to the police.
It's absolutely impossible to beleive that the South Korea v Italy game at the 2002 world cup wasn't fixed. Nothing that day was going to prevent South korea going through.
The ref that day was suspended from football later that year when after signalling 6 minutes of stoppage time in an Ecuador league game with LDU losing, he allowed them to score after 99 and 101 minutes and blew straight after the winning goal.
The ref that day was suspended from football later that year when after signalling 6 minutes of stoppage time in an Ecuador league game with LDU losing, he allowed them to score after 99 and 101 minutes and blew straight after the winning goal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807
Match-fixing: Champions League tie played in England 'was fixed'
A Champions League tie played in England is one of 380 matches across Europe investigators say was fixed.
European police did not reveal the identity of the match they believe was corrupt in England.
But Europol did say that they had uncovered an organised crime syndicate based in Asia that was co-ordinating the operation.
Some 425 match officials, club officials, players and criminals are suspected of being involved.
At a news conference in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol claimed:
The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in "last three or four years";
The identity of that match cannot be revealed due to "ongoing judicial proceedings";
Other "corrupt" matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and "several top football matches in European leagues";
In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on r!gged matches and made £6.9m in profits
Officials fear this is as the "tip of the iceberg".
Rob Wainwright, director of Europol - the European Union's law enforcement agency, said:"This is the work of a suspected organised crime syndicate based in Asia and operated with criminal networks around Europe.
"It is clear to us this is the biggest-ever investigation into suspected match-fixing in Europe. It has yielded major results which we think have uncovered a big problem for the integrity of football in Europe.
Analysis
Gordon Farquhar
BBC sports news correspondent
"These gambling rings are basically having to bribe people to play badly or to fix results and then they are wagering large amounts of money, often in Asia, on the outcome of games knowing that they can cheat the bookmakers because they have inside information.
"It's easy to imagine how you can fix something when it is one person against another. When it's two teams of 11 it is more difficult and presumably you need collusion from more than one person. Referees can give penalties and things can be ruled offside when they are not, but you would imagine they need several people to be sure."
"We have uncovered an extensive criminal network."
Europol, which has been investigating for 18 months, said suspected matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers, two Champions League ties and "several top football matches in European leagues".
In addition to the £13.8m wagered on Germany-based matches, payments of £1.73m are thought to have been paid to those involved. The biggest payment to an individual was £121,000, according to investigators.
Europol believes a crime syndicate based in Asia was liaising with criminal networks throughout Europe. It believes match-fixing has taken place in 15 countries and 50 people have so far been arrested.
In total, 30 countries and close to 700 matches worldwide were examined. Many of the allegations involved matches in lower divisions around Europe.
Criminal convictions have been secured in Germany, Finland, Hungary, Slovenia and Austria following investigations.
Asked specifically about the allegations surrounding the Champions League tie held in England, Wainwright declined to identify the match because of "ongoing judicial proceedings".
However he did say it happened in the last three to four years, before adding: "The focus has been on other countries, not the United Kingdom. However we were surprised by the scale generally of the criminal enterprise and just how widespread it was.
"It would be naive and complacent of those in the UK to think such a criminal conspiracy does not involve the English game and all the football in Europe."
Match-fixing: Champions League tie played in England 'was fixed'
A Champions League tie played in England is one of 380 matches across Europe investigators say was fixed.
European police did not reveal the identity of the match they believe was corrupt in England.
But Europol did say that they had uncovered an organised crime syndicate based in Asia that was co-ordinating the operation.
Some 425 match officials, club officials, players and criminals are suspected of being involved.
At a news conference in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol claimed:
The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in "last three or four years";
The identity of that match cannot be revealed due to "ongoing judicial proceedings";
Other "corrupt" matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and "several top football matches in European leagues";
In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on r!gged matches and made £6.9m in profits
Officials fear this is as the "tip of the iceberg".
Rob Wainwright, director of Europol - the European Union's law enforcement agency, said:"This is the work of a suspected organised crime syndicate based in Asia and operated with criminal networks around Europe.
"It is clear to us this is the biggest-ever investigation into suspected match-fixing in Europe. It has yielded major results which we think have uncovered a big problem for the integrity of football in Europe.
Analysis
Gordon Farquhar
BBC sports news correspondent
"These gambling rings are basically having to bribe people to play badly or to fix results and then they are wagering large amounts of money, often in Asia, on the outcome of games knowing that they can cheat the bookmakers because they have inside information.
"It's easy to imagine how you can fix something when it is one person against another. When it's two teams of 11 it is more difficult and presumably you need collusion from more than one person. Referees can give penalties and things can be ruled offside when they are not, but you would imagine they need several people to be sure."
"We have uncovered an extensive criminal network."
Europol, which has been investigating for 18 months, said suspected matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers, two Champions League ties and "several top football matches in European leagues".
In addition to the £13.8m wagered on Germany-based matches, payments of £1.73m are thought to have been paid to those involved. The biggest payment to an individual was £121,000, according to investigators.
Europol believes a crime syndicate based in Asia was liaising with criminal networks throughout Europe. It believes match-fixing has taken place in 15 countries and 50 people have so far been arrested.
In total, 30 countries and close to 700 matches worldwide were examined. Many of the allegations involved matches in lower divisions around Europe.
Criminal convictions have been secured in Germany, Finland, Hungary, Slovenia and Austria following investigations.
Asked specifically about the allegations surrounding the Champions League tie held in England, Wainwright declined to identify the match because of "ongoing judicial proceedings".
However he did say it happened in the last three to four years, before adding: "The focus has been on other countries, not the United Kingdom. However we were surprised by the scale generally of the criminal enterprise and just how widespread it was.
"It would be naive and complacent of those in the UK to think such a criminal conspiracy does not involve the English game and all the football in Europe."
Favorite fixers score 0-0 best to fix 2nd leg when both teams agree tie most likely dead anyway.
16 March 2011
20:45
Chelsea England 0 – 0 Denmark Copenhagen
16 March 2011
20:45
Chelsea England 0 – 0 Denmark Copenhagen
Yes I agree Biscuit, but I guarantee the average Premier League fan would say match fixing doesn't exist in this country.
It's not even just the top level either. Take say League 1 and League 2 games, there is not a lot of focus on these leagues, the players are not earning that much.
It's not even just the top level either. Take say League 1 and League 2 games, there is not a lot of focus on these leagues, the players are not earning that much.
380 matches since 2009, that's 10 suspicious matches a month
People would probably argue that premier league players are too rich to bother taking bungs to fix matches. But when you've got a multi millionaire like John Terry willing to take 10k bungs to show someone round the Chelsea training ground, i'm sure he could be bought off for 50-100k to help fix a game.
And what if a syndicate targeted someone like Etherington with a known gambling problem and huge debts. I'm sure he wouldn't have needed much persuading.
And what if a syndicate targeted someone like Etherington with a known gambling problem and huge debts. I'm sure he wouldn't have needed much persuading.
I am going to avoid Italian matches from now on after that fooking ref in the AC Milan vs Udinese match cost me thousands.
13 Red Cards in Italy yesterday suggests the refs decide who wins.
How come these matches that are proven to be fixed are never voided. Presumably BF withhold payout on suspicious patterns.
13 Red Cards in Italy yesterday suggests the refs decide who wins.
How come these matches that are proven to be fixed are never voided. Presumably BF withhold payout on suspicious patterns.
betfair lose commissions if they void, they never lose out on exchange bets fixed or not
wasn't there a motherwell match recently where a player got sent himself off and suspicious bets were placed from liverpool, where he is from? Arrests were made IIRC
Goran Popov(Macadonian) for West Brom the other day...spitting? Could of been a case of a fix right there
Agree Bruce incident like that more or less decide the result, you can coach or do all the wheeling and dealing you like in the transfer market, the refs are the real stars of the game.
Sociedad vs Mallorca was the same yesterday close match the ref sent a player off after the ball hit his thigh and rolled up onto his arm.
Sociedad vs Mallorca was the same yesterday close match the ref sent a player off after the ball hit his thigh and rolled up onto his arm.
When I said English leagues are the most corrupt leagues in the world I was an idiot. Good to see the only idiots are you doubters.
A worldwide ban of bet(un)fair will follow...
A worldwide ban of bet(un)fair will follow...
If you think England is the most corrupt then you are most certainly an idiot. What in this news makes you feel vindicated in holding that view?
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1794723
Shows you how naive the general perception of match fixing "couldn't possibly exist in this country" is. The English game has a white image that is too white too believe. Every time something remotely dodgy is mentioned with regards to an English team it is immediately squashed or rubbished by the authorities. And it's exactly that sort of attitude which will lead to nothing being done about it.
Shows you how naive the general perception of match fixing "couldn't possibly exist in this country" is. The English game has a white image that is too white too believe. Every time something remotely dodgy is mentioned with regards to an English team it is immediately squashed or rubbished by the authorities. And it's exactly that sort of attitude which will lead to nothing being done about it.
But still we all watch week in week out, go to games, have a good time etc
And everyone wins on Betfair
So at the end of the day, the match fixing doesn't seem to affect us
And everyone wins on Betfair
So at the end of the day, the match fixing doesn't seem to affect us
Doesn't even have to be an obvious fix. Simply a 3-2 game for overs. Dead group game - tell the two teams just to play it out like a friendly without any need for defending. Bob's your uncle.
sarausa 04 Feb 13 13:40
When I said English leagues are the most corrupt leagues in the world I was an idiot.
Most corrupt? No way is it more corrupt than the likes of Russia, Bulgaria, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Hong Kong, China..........
When I said English leagues are the most corrupt leagues in the world I was an idiot.
Most corrupt? No way is it more corrupt than the likes of Russia, Bulgaria, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Hong Kong, China..........
ok so they made 7 million, between everyone involved its hardly much worth a squeek is it? I know its happened in italy, i suppose they aren't on as much as premier league stars but whats teh difference between this and non triers in horse racing?
What about the Chelsea v Barca game where that ref turned down about 4 blatant Chelsea pens.
That'd have to be very high on my list for potential games that have been fixed in England in the last 3-4 years.
That'd have to be very high on my list for potential games that have been fixed in England in the last 3-4 years.
Feb 4, 2013 -- 1:58PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:
sarausa 04 Feb 13 13:40 When I said English leagues are the most corrupt leagues in the world I was an idiot.Most corrupt? No way is it more corrupt than the likes of Russia, Bulgaria, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Hong Kong, China..........
Trust me it is! So a game in Bulgaria with an amount €40k matched is more corrupt than a crappy Chelsea game with an amount about €10 million? 
definitely biscuit
that was a bizarre performance
referees can control games. just look at some of clattenburgs performances this season
that was a bizarre performance
referees can control games. just look at some of clattenburgs performances this season
380 matches ,,is that all,,,is there no honesty left in this world,,,
Feb 4, 2013 -- 1:47PM, n88uk wrote:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1794723Shows you how naive the general perception of match fixing "couldn't possibly exist in this country" is. The English game has a white image that is too white too believe. Every time something remotely dodgy is mentioned with regards to an English team it is immediately squashed or rubbished by the authorities. And it's exactly that sort of attitude which will lead to nothing being done about it.
Thanks mate! So the idiot label moves back to forumite OldGold 
Betting in running must have been a great invention for match fixers, cos theres less time for other things to influence the thing you have fixed
I guess key positions for a fix are the GK and the referee, as they have the best chance to alter a game or result
I guess key positions for a fix are the GK and the referee, as they have the best chance to alter a game or result
The problem Biscuit with saying the ref in Barce vs Chelsea was just outright trying to fix the match for Barcelona as I believe you are suggesting (maybe you are not), is the terrible red card decision against Abidal. If you are actively trying to help a team to win you don't send off a player on their team.
This tends to make me think it was just a bad ref well out of his depth, because where would the fix be? You can fix overs as a ref by giving dodgy decisions, it's a lot harder to fix unders style bets though.
This tends to make me think it was just a bad ref well out of his depth, because where would the fix be? You can fix overs as a ref by giving dodgy decisions, it's a lot harder to fix unders style bets though.
sarausa 04 Feb 13 14:31
Trust me it is! So a game in Bulgaria with an amount €40k matched is more corrupt than a crappy Chelsea game with an amount about €10 million?
Well somehow i doubt that the far east betting syndicates making millions on dodgy games are using betfair, so the money matched on here won't matter in the slightest.
Trust me it is! So a game in Bulgaria with an amount €40k matched is more corrupt than a crappy Chelsea game with an amount about €10 million?
Well somehow i doubt that the far east betting syndicates making millions on dodgy games are using betfair, so the money matched on here won't matter in the slightest.
and what have all you doubters who ave been so quick to critisise when the word FIXED has been used got to say about this,,
How long ago was it when Barca were getting beat at Home by Chelsea in a Champ league game,and that Dodgy German Blondey Ref (Got his head split open by an object at an italian game)
Chelsea were 1-0 up,yet on here over £1 million was put up for Chelsea to get beat.
The ref gave 1-2 Penalties and sent off 1-2 Chelsea players.
Chelsea were 1-0 up,yet on here over £1 million was put up for Chelsea to get beat.
The ref gave 1-2 Penalties and sent off 1-2 Chelsea players.
there was a valencia game when koeman was in charge in the champions league that looked fishy
think it might have been rosenborg
think it might have been rosenborg
arsenal 3 - 0 ac milan ,,2nd leg,,wouldnt say arsenal players involved but with a 4-0 lead milan have an easy oppertunity to relax and let te arsenal win backers clean up
sarausa, you made a very different claim to the point made by n88uk, do I have to explain in simple terms for you?
50 people already arrested and 14 jailed, most of them coming from germany where it was most promedent 
...this is sickkkkkkkkkkkkk
...this is sickkkkkkkkkkkkk
This made me laugh:
"They also included that of a Hungarian referee, arrested last June, who is on trial for fixing a friendly between the Bolivian and Argentine junior teams by awarding a questionable red card in the 20th minute of injury time that led to a 1-0 victory for Argentina from the resulting penalty"
Nothing suspicious about that at all
"They also included that of a Hungarian referee, arrested last June, who is on trial for fixing a friendly between the Bolivian and Argentine junior teams by awarding a questionable red card in the 20th minute of injury time that led to a 1-0 victory for Argentina from the resulting penalty"
Nothing suspicious about that at all
20th minute of injury time , Now that is just comical.....lock him up and throw away the key the sneaky git
This really is shocking, makes you more cautious as to what you are going to bet on now in the future......
, Now that is just comical.....lock him up and throw away the key the sneaky git This really is shocking, makes you more cautious as to what you are going to bet on now in the future......
Asian are the Kings in fixing...Look how strong they move in the English Market..One company sponsored around 4-5 big English teams..is it without benefits or inside info
This was just run on today fm ( Ireland)..The guy getting interviewed basically said that the fixers dont mind if some go wrong as they will always win.....anyone remember the Napoli keepers bizarre reaction to his team scoring another goal?....I can't remember the score or game but it bust possibly an exact handicap win, unders bet etc....With in play it also opens up a whole list of potential options....such as them knowing which half to back overs, then unders in a second half of no goals....How often do we see those games?.....hmmmm
Anyway, everyone on here who love a bit of the action
Anyway, everyone on here who love a bit of the action
Just saw another one guys
Dynamo Buc vs Lech Poznan...now live
did you see the Asian prices how much they dropped for Lech Poznan
I was just watching the match at 2-0 and I was dead sure Lech Poznan will score and placed a bet..after 3 minutes 2-1....lol
Dynamo Buc vs Lech Poznan...now live
did you see the Asian prices how much they dropped for Lech Poznan
I was just watching the match at 2-0 and I was dead sure Lech Poznan will score and placed a bet..after 3 minutes 2-1....lol
My guess would be the Arsenal 5-0 win over Porto in 2010. Nicolas Bendtner hat-trick? It's beyond the joke, how dare they cast such mind blowing absurdity on us and expect us to believe it's real
I was going to suggest an Arsenal Champions League group game, they've had some suspiciously good results in recent seasons. Not sure it would Porto would be involved in that though, unless their goal keeper was the fixer. Probably one of the eastern european teams they've played.
Feb 4, 2013 -- 6:34PM, Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner wrote:
This was just run on today fm ( Ireland)..The guy getting interviewed basically said that the fixers dont mind if some go wrong as they will always win.....anyone remember the Napoli keepers bizarre reaction to his team scoring another goal?....I can't remember the score or game but it bust possibly an exact handicap win, unders bet etc....With in play it also opens up a whole list of potential options....such as them knowing which half to back overs, then unders in a second half of no goals....How often do we see those games?.....hmmmmAnyway, everyone on here who love a bit of the action
http://metro.co.uk/2012/01/09/
napoli-goalkeeper-morgan-de-sanctis-unhappy-with-his-team-for-scoring-279254/
There it is WWCD
some chinese lad got murdered a few years back up here, and it was rumoured he was involved in match fixing
didnt some ref resign after being accused by an english club of match fixing
i hope all the details of the matches are brought out,
didnt some ref resign after being accused by an english club of match fixing
i hope all the details of the matches are brought out,
Sorry that it does not play the video, just seen there !!
what a coincidence that :
"The Youtube account associated with this video has been terminated
due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement"
hmmmmmm ??
what a coincidence that :
"The Youtube account associated with this video has been terminated
due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement"
hmmmmmm
??
Feb 4, 2013 -- 7:25PM, donny osmond wrote:
some chinese lad got murdered a few years back up here, and it was rumoured he was involved in match fixingdidnt some ref resign after being accused by an english club of match fixingi hope all the details of the matches are brought out,
If Newcastle is your part of the world, I remember about 6 years back a Chinese guy that lived a few streets down from my flat got murdered. It was betting related, but he was giving live updates by phone to people trying to beat a 1 minute or so delay that some of the asian bookies had on football matches in England.
Feb 4, 2013 -- 6:10PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:
This made me laugh:"They also included that of a Hungarian referee, arrested last June, who is on trial for fixing a friendly between the Bolivian and Argentine junior teams by awarding a questionable red card in the 20th minute of injury time that led to a 1-0 victory for Argentina from the resulting penalty"Nothing suspicious about that at all
What was that match on here a year or so ago. When one team was heavy odds on going into injury time, and the ref awarded a non sensical penalty in a similar scenario. Madness.
Atletico Madrid drifted 1.6 out to 2.2 a few years back and I watched the most barmy performance I've ever seen from a European team, they wanted to lose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esx37k2TyIo
"penalty" comes at 7 minutes 3 seconds in the clip....I believe they are still looking for the ref
"penalty" comes at 7 minutes 3 seconds in the clip....I believe they are still looking for the ref
"As it turned out, the one they were given looked very soft indeed"
Liverpool 1 Athletico Madrid 1?
95th minute penalty equaliser
Liverpool 1 Athletico Madrid 1?
95th minute penalty equaliser
Same referee in that match as this one:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=743300&sec=uefachampionsleague&cc=5739
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=743300&sec=uefachampionsleague&cc=5739
This made me laugh:
"They also included that of a Hungarian referee, arrested last June, who is on trial for fixing a friendly between the Bolivian and Argentine junior teams by awarding a questionable red card in the 20th minute of injury time that led to a 1-0 victory for Argentina from the resulting penalty"
Nothing suspicious about that at all
This was on betfair, Argentina were around 2.0 in minute 90
"They also included that of a Hungarian referee, arrested last June, who is on trial for fixing a friendly between the Bolivian and Argentine junior teams by awarding a questionable red card in the 20th minute of injury time that led to a 1-0 victory for Argentina from the resulting penalty"
Nothing suspicious about that at all
This was on betfair, Argentina were around 2.0 in minute 90
i wonder if my kevi nolan fix story i posted on here will come up lol
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