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In last 3 or 4 years supposedly. Any guesses?
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Think it was further back, when Liverpool won it in 2005. Down 3-0 at half time!? Fix.
Anyway, was about to post about this. So the match fixing is bigger than they thought according to the BBC with hundreds of officials, players and club officials involved and it all leads back to the Asians. |
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A crime syndicate based in Asia*
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liverpool 8 besiktas 0 has links
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Liverpool
8 - 0 Beşiktaş |
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So if anyone on here had prior knowledge of these alleged 380 fixed matches would you A- Go to the police and report your concerns or B- lump on ?
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Liverpool v besiktas was 2007.
Statement says "The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in "last three or four years" |
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Platini always pick B
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I would B, then when the monies in my account go A
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man u v roma????? cant remember how long ago now but there was an epic thread on here about it. Maybe someone could bump it.
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There is nothing in that article that is really surprising. I know we always hear this no match fixing in England, it's an Eastern European problem - but does anyone truly believe this?
The Champions League thing doesn't surprise me either, you get a lot of dead rubber games or teams to be winning to go through. Eg. teams needing to catch up about a 7 goal difference. The English teams are often already qualified by the last game in group stages, and have suffered some bad losses in those games - are they taking their eye off the ball, or is something more sinister in action. |
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Its more likey to have been a group game, probably not one of the ones you would expect, chelsea v barca had plenty of people calling fix
however proably a much less conspicuous event imo |
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World Cup 2010 had some clear fix by referee pattern in games. Ghana v Australia I watched this game and it was clear, referee do everything to get Ghana result. At time only African team to have chance in group, first time world cup in Africa, football is like this from top, not just criminal gang in Asia....Yes people who run fifa, Uefa, are biggest criminals
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" people who run fifa, Uefa, are biggest criminals "
sad but true.... |
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What do you want? Most of the people who have power in their hands are criminals in some way, not only in football
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n88uk 04 Feb 13 11:36
There is nothing in that article that is really surprising. I know we always hear this no match fixing in England, it's an Eastern European problem - but does anyone truly believe this? You'd have to be very naive to believe that the world's most watched league that is extremely popular in Asia, has never had a match fixed by an Asian betting syndicate. there have been previous cases of floodlights going to get games abandoned. I also remember an incident involving a Charlton v Liverpool game years ago when the floodlights were again supposed to go out mid-game but the syndicate were stitched up when one security guard went to the police. |
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It's absolutely impossible to beleive that the South Korea v Italy game at the 2002 world cup wasn't fixed. Nothing that day was going to prevent South korea going through.
The ref that day was suspended from football later that year when after signalling 6 minutes of stoppage time in an Ecuador league game with LDU losing, he allowed them to score after 99 and 101 minutes and blew straight after the winning goal. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807
Match-fixing: Champions League tie played in England 'was fixed' A Champions League tie played in England is one of 380 matches across Europe investigators say was fixed. European police did not reveal the identity of the match they believe was corrupt in England. But Europol did say that they had uncovered an organised crime syndicate based in Asia that was co-ordinating the operation. Some 425 match officials, club officials, players and criminals are suspected of being involved. At a news conference in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol claimed: The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in "last three or four years"; The identity of that match cannot be revealed due to "ongoing judicial proceedings"; Other "corrupt" matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and "several top football matches in European leagues"; In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on r!gged matches and made £6.9m in profits Officials fear this is as the "tip of the iceberg". Rob Wainwright, director of Europol - the European Union's law enforcement agency, said:"This is the work of a suspected organised crime syndicate based in Asia and operated with criminal networks around Europe. "It is clear to us this is the biggest-ever investigation into suspected match-fixing in Europe. It has yielded major results which we think have uncovered a big problem for the integrity of football in Europe. Analysis Gordon Farquhar BBC sports news correspondent "These gambling rings are basically having to bribe people to play badly or to fix results and then they are wagering large amounts of money, often in Asia, on the outcome of games knowing that they can cheat the bookmakers because they have inside information. "It's easy to imagine how you can fix something when it is one person against another. When it's two teams of 11 it is more difficult and presumably you need collusion from more than one person. Referees can give penalties and things can be ruled offside when they are not, but you would imagine they need several people to be sure." "We have uncovered an extensive criminal network." Europol, which has been investigating for 18 months, said suspected matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers, two Champions League ties and "several top football matches in European leagues". In addition to the £13.8m wagered on Germany-based matches, payments of £1.73m are thought to have been paid to those involved. The biggest payment to an individual was £121,000, according to investigators. Europol believes a crime syndicate based in Asia was liaising with criminal networks throughout Europe. It believes match-fixing has taken place in 15 countries and 50 people have so far been arrested. In total, 30 countries and close to 700 matches worldwide were examined. Many of the allegations involved matches in lower divisions around Europe. Criminal convictions have been secured in Germany, Finland, Hungary, Slovenia and Austria following investigations. Asked specifically about the allegations surrounding the Champions League tie held in England, Wainwright declined to identify the match because of "ongoing judicial proceedings". However he did say it happened in the last three to four years, before adding: "The focus has been on other countries, not the United Kingdom. However we were surprised by the scale generally of the criminal enterprise and just how widespread it was. "It would be naive and complacent of those in the UK to think such a criminal conspiracy does not involve the English game and all the football in Europe." |
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Favorite fixers score 0-0 best to fix 2nd leg when both teams agree tie most likely dead anyway.
16 March 2011 20:45 Chelsea England 0 – 0 Denmark Copenhagen |
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Yes I agree Biscuit, but I guarantee the average Premier League fan would say match fixing doesn't exist in this country.
It's not even just the top level either. Take say League 1 and League 2 games, there is not a lot of focus on these leagues, the players are not earning that much. |
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380 matches since 2009, that's 10 suspicious matches a month
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People would probably argue that premier league players are too rich to bother taking bungs to fix matches. But when you've got a multi millionaire like John Terry willing to take 10k bungs to show someone round the Chelsea training ground, i'm sure he could be bought off for 50-100k to help fix a game.
And what if a syndicate targeted someone like Etherington with a known gambling problem and huge debts. I'm sure he wouldn't have needed much persuading. |
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I am going to avoid Italian matches from now on after that fooking ref in the AC Milan vs Udinese match cost me thousands.
13 Red Cards in Italy yesterday suggests the refs decide who wins. How come these matches that are proven to be fixed are never voided. Presumably BF withhold payout on suspicious patterns. |
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betfair lose commissions if they void, they never lose out on exchange bets fixed or not
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wasn't there a motherwell match recently where a player got sent himself off and suspicious bets were placed from liverpool, where he is from? Arrests were made IIRC
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Goran Popov(Macadonian) for West Brom the other day...spitting? Could of been a case of a fix right there
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Agree Bruce incident like that more or less decide the result, you can coach or do all the wheeling and dealing you like in the transfer market, the refs are the real stars of the game.
Sociedad vs Mallorca was the same yesterday close match the ref sent a player off after the ball hit his thigh and rolled up onto his arm. |
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most likely ref involvement.
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When I said English leagues are the most corrupt leagues in the world I was an idiot. Good to see the only idiots are you doubters.
A worldwide ban of bet(un)fair will follow... |
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If you think England is the most corrupt then you are most certainly an idiot. What in this news makes you feel vindicated in holding that view?
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http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1794723
Shows you how naive the general perception of match fixing "couldn't possibly exist in this country" is. The English game has a white image that is too white too believe. Every time something remotely dodgy is mentioned with regards to an English team it is immediately squashed or rubbished by the authorities. And it's exactly that sort of attitude which will lead to nothing being done about it. |
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LIVERPOOL
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But still we all watch week in week out, go to games, have a good time etc
And everyone wins on Betfair So at the end of the day, the match fixing doesn't seem to affect us |
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Doesn't even have to be an obvious fix. Simply a 3-2 game for overs. Dead group game - tell the two teams just to play it out like a friendly without any need for defending. Bob's your uncle.
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sarausa 04 Feb 13 13:40
When I said English leagues are the most corrupt leagues in the world I was an idiot. Most corrupt? No way is it more corrupt than the likes of Russia, Bulgaria, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Hong Kong, China.......... |
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Man Utd vs Galatasary 1-0
 Nani's peno |
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ok so they made 7 million, between everyone involved its hardly much worth a squeek is it? I know its happened in italy, i suppose they aren't on as much as premier league stars but whats teh difference between this and non triers in horse racing?
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What about the Chelsea v Barca game where that ref turned down about 4 blatant Chelsea pens.
That'd have to be very high on my list for potential games that have been fixed in England in the last 3-4 years. |
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definitely biscuit
that was a bizarre performance referees can control games. just look at some of clattenburgs performances this season |
