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Warning to all players!
If you have non-matched bet and the play gets suspended, your bet gets automatically matched if unfavourable to you.
It just happened again, I had hanging bet Malaga-Barcelona, correct score 1-3, at 1-2 current. Unmatched odds 4.5, current 3.7 when Malaga equlized 2-2 and game got suspended. Cancell all unmatched didn't work, but my unfavourable bet was immediately executed during suspension time at odds far away from the last ones.
This is not isolated but regular behavior of BF website.
Shame on you Betfair.
If you have non-matched bet and the play gets suspended, your bet gets automatically matched if unfavourable to you.
It just happened again, I had hanging bet Malaga-Barcelona, correct score 1-3, at 1-2 current. Unmatched odds 4.5, current 3.7 when Malaga equlized 2-2 and game got suspended. Cancell all unmatched didn't work, but my unfavourable bet was immediately executed during suspension time at odds far away from the last ones.
This is not isolated but regular behavior of BF website.
Shame on you Betfair.
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it means your bet lost
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so you think you should have been allowed to cancel a losing bet
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Bets shouldn't be matched during a suspension, that's the point.
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bets can't be matched during a suspension.
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people are always one step ahead
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It means there is no way anyone could match any bet during suspension. Noone was matching way off line bet at the last moment.
You're being denied to cancell unfavourable bet even if not matched. |
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I think he's saying he tried to cancel an unmatched keep bet during the suspension and it wouldn't let him.
if that's the case, i'd phone them. was this the new "improved" site or the old style one? |
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the bet wasn't matched during the suspension, it was matched before the suspension.
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Hoovered?
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I would say so
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Read again. The odds right before the suspension were 3.7 while the unmatched bet was 4.5. No way my bet so far back in line could be executed before the suspension.
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ball hits the net . then it got took before he cancelled simple
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late suspend
though of course that would be denied, what's the delay on these games now? |
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yeah, it could - especially in spanish football. if the score you're trying to back becomes impossible, someone will try and hoover up everything before the suspend hits.
if they have real time info, it's not unheard of for hooverers to beat the suspend. you need to find out definitely when your bet was matched. |
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It was new improved site, viva el presidente.
And I'm not whining about lost money, it was just 50-60€, this is just a warning to you all. Take it or be a next victim. |
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to be fair mate its been smashing me for 6 years
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And regarding suspension delay, it was about two seconds after scoring. The execution has delay of 8-9 seconds. That's why I very strongly believe in Betfair misbehaving.
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Players in Spain regularly beat the suspend though
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How is that possible Winner Winner?
Even if the live tv is being delayed for a few seconds, someone still needs to beat nine seconds bet execution delay. |
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How long is the delay on tv though, much more than a few seconds. The Spanish markets are a constant problem, I dont play them and have not for years
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the delay on british TV for spanish football is often humungous.
heard the first goal tonight on spanish radio in my kitchen. I was half way up the stairs before I heard the suspend hit on Geeks Toy. bottom line: you can't trust the suspend to protect you on spanish football. |
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betfair claim all unmatched bets are automatically cancelled at the suspend.
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not if its keep bet
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i am telling you.the suspension is seconds after the goal sometimes..somebody tookkk your money after the goal but before the suspension
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the spanish games can be 10 seconds behind at times so the 8 second clock wont save you.
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The answer is maybe dont leave unmatched bets?
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brtfait isnt in spain anymore
If you mean Betfair isn't available in Spain, that's not strictly true. Anyway the topic's been covered ad nauseum on the forum already. |
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i don't do much in play. but i see freds like this on a regular basis.
it seems obvious to me that there are people getting round the delay. what's it now 10 secs or so? if bf wanted to protect some of their customers they'd make the delay longer, but that would lessen turnover and therefore profitability. but it would stop the "stroke pullers". |
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or, they'd just aggressively void hoovered bets and shut down the offending accounts.
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how could they prove what bets were "hoovered"
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explicitly put it in their T&Cs (if it's not there already), then just do it at their discretion when it's obvious.
which it usually (as in this case) is. |
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and when they say they they just fancied a punt and initiated the trade from this country?
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"tough, it's in the T&Cs. like it or lump it"
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so somebody who fancies a punt gets penalised because he places his trade at the wrong tine?
surely it's better to increase the delay if some people are managing to cheat by getting past the delay? |
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I've recently been asking for slightly better odds than is available (1 tick usually) on unders markets in football, leaving them up waiting for a match as people gradually lay at the best odds (the odds I'm trying to back). Literally 5 times in a row today there's been a goal within seconds of me placing these bets and in every case I was hoovered and left committed to a market I didn't want to be in following a goal. Back to taking the odds available I guess...
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I've never EVER seen a bet matched during suspension. I've seen late suspensions/hoovering + keep bets taken after a goal though.
The market is just locked out during a suspension. Spanish matches are always the subject of talk about hoovering. |
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mexicano: yep. if you genuinely "just fancied a bet" it would work for you as often as against.
but I'm not talking about reversing small bets at the market. I'm talking about large bets taking out several ticks a moment before the suspend. use Geeks Toy's live charting, hoovering has a pretty clear signature. I would put something in the T&Cs explicitly saying that any bet which matched two criteria could be voided at BF's discretion: 1) it was matched within x seconds of a suspend-inducing event 2) it was matched y ticks below the best available offer z seconds previously. |
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why not just increase the delay?
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