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By:
Biscuit1979
When: 18 Jan 13 14:10
"pottechino is a seriously quality coach who had to continually sell at espanyol"





He had them bottom of the table before his sacking. The new manager has lifted them up the table with the same group of players.

And even if he's a fantastic manager he will still have problems from the start because he can't speak English.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 18 Jan 13 14:12
ignore than journalism

he has had to sell some decent players in the last few years.

defo a quality manager.
By:
RMB ©
When: 18 Jan 13 14:13

Jan 18, 2013 -- 1:50PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


Can see both sides of the argument.1. Yes they're rightly fuming at the managers sacking and the board need to be told they've made a poor choice2. However it's not the players or the new managers fault so you still have to get behind them. What good would a boycott do?


Good post. Very true. If it was me I'd be genuinely upset and very torn for said reasons!

By:
tobermory
When: 18 Jan 13 14:13
surely this guy must be an old pal of the chairman Confused
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 18 Jan 13 14:16
id say about 2 years ago he would of been picked up by a top club had they not had to let the likes of callejon go.
espanyol had to sell their best 2 defenders the season before when he really made an impact.

things have been steadily declining because they cant afford it.

as long as southampton can replace the quality players they sell with decent types they will do allright.

no manager can really work miracles with the type of stuff pottechino has had to deal with.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 18 Jan 13 14:22
G1 Jockey - he did well at the start with Espanyol and yes he had to tell the likes of ruiz, callejon, osvaldo but he's struggled since. A good manager would surely adapt?

And even if he's worth another chance, surely that should be at a Spanish side, not in a country where he doesn't know the league and can't speak the language.
By:
ian merseyside
When: 18 Jan 13 14:28
Totally unrelated but the sacking is another daft decision after the nonsense of ditching the traditional red and white stripes for a "more fashionable" all red shirt.  Can you imagine Newcastle doing the same?
By:
iamhewho
When: 18 Jan 13 14:31
Southampton to get relegated then imo


they were over achieving with atkins now a foreigner who doesnt know the game is gonna inherit a bunch of players who have no real quality
By:
Charlton2005
When: 18 Jan 13 14:33
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Their cup run was ended by a regional third-division side and that set the template for the horrendous year to follow. When a hapless, hopeless Real Zaragoza beat Espanyol 2-0 in Barcelona, coach Mauricio Pochettino described it as "a little accident" a minor blip. It was not.

Espanyol tumbled down the table to finish 14th and the Argentine was fortunate not to join the twelve top-flight coaches who lost their job last season, his team were crude and he had no idea how to halt their slide. His side were 18th in the fair-play table, with more yellow cards received than any other club.

Espanyol's youthful beauty had been replaced by a snarling beast who did not know how to lose gracefully.

The new season did not bring relief as they picked up just two points from their opening seven matches and sat bottom. By the end of November, they had managed two wins from 13 games and remained 20th.

Crowds in their new, 40,000-seat stadium tumbled from nearly 30,000 a year ago to just 15,500 for one league match. The Blanquiazules have 21,000 season-ticket holders - over 5,000 of them decided that they could not be bothered to attend games they had already paid for, the football was awful.

The beleaguered club once heralded as a role model for a medium-sized operation were falling apart. Just 7,463 watched a November Copa del Rey game against Sevilla. They lost 3-0.

The president departed and Pochettino was finally dismissed in November. Replaced by former Mexico and Atletico Madrid coach Javier Aguirre, fortunes finally began to improve. Espanyol drew his first three matches and held Real Madrid away. Then they beat Deportivo in their last match.


FFS
By:
pushkin99
When: 18 Jan 13 15:00
G1_Jockey_4 - it seems what you know about Spanish football (or indeed any football) could be contained within a postage stamp.

It must be clear to anyone without an 'agenda/axe to grind' that saking Adkins is a dreadfull decision for our club. Until today I was optimistic about our future which appeared to be bright. I hope I am wrong, and as others have opioned I will still get behind my team and maybe in the future, even the new manager, but the future is now looking very murky and I really fear we are now heading down and will be relegated well before the end of May.
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 18 Jan 13 15:01
got to feel sorry for adkins , bad news for saints fans - hopefully everton will be first team to benefit on Monday night.
By:
scaredmoney
When: 18 Jan 13 15:12
gotitwrong- • January 18, 2013 3:01 PM GMT
got to feel sorry for adkins , bad news for saints fans - hopefully everton will be first team to benefit on Monday night.


As much as ya can feel sorry for a very wealthy bloke who will have no trouble what so ever in getting another well paid job........thats not a dig at him,i wish him every success in the future and im sure he will be very successful
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 18 Jan 13 15:24
He's done well for himself seeing as he used to be the Scunthorpe physio!
By:
scaredmoney
When: 18 Jan 13 15:25
very well indeed Biscuit.....good luck to him
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 18 Jan 13 15:36
The owners deserve relegation

wtf is all this about, utter *****
By:
scarecrow
When: 18 Jan 13 15:58
southamptons decision seems bizarre,they are looking as silly as their near neighbours and friends portsmouth today.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Jan 13 16:09
Disposing of the manager with the best win percentage in your club’s history, a man who has overseen consecutive promotions and who has lifted your club 48 places in the football league pyramid in just 26 months is certainly baffling.

Add in the fact that Southampton were on a streak of just two defeats in 12 games and it is perfectly possible to argue that this constitutes the harshest sacking in Premier League history.

The dismissal of Sam Allardyce at Blackburn also springs to mind but factor in the timing, Adkins’ diplomatic internal style as well as him being the choice of chairman Nicola Cortese and it really is difficult to think of a more bizarre decision.

Yet for all that, there will be only limited surprise today from those people who have actually worked with Cortese since he began running Southampton in 2009.

Alan Pardew, who himself was sacked by Cortese in 2010, says that he has never been pushed harder by anyone in football. Staff at St Mary’s also privately attest to his exacting standards.



Cortese’s vision for Southampton, quite simply, is to be a club pushing for European football and with an academy that is the very best in the country. That might all sound fanciful but the progress of the 3½ years is there for all to see.

His five-year plan for Premier League promotion was achieved two years ahead of schedule and a new state-of-the-art training ground is being built. Cortese can argue with some justification that, thus far, his major decisions have eventually all been vindicated.

Yet beneath the progress is an unpredictability and level of expectation that sometimes strays into the outright unrealistic.

Cortese had previously considered Adkins’ position after the defeat against West Bromwich Albion in November but, having resisted from pulling the trigger then, there was a general sense that the situation would not be reviewed again until the end of the season.

Even when reports emanated last night from Spain of talks between Cortese and Mauricio Pochettino, the assumption from well places sources around the club was that he was being sounded out for future reference.

It is all a massive gamble. Not because Pochettino is necessarily a poor coach but because he will inherit a squad in shock and a fan-base in revolt. Rafael Benitez would be the best person to advise Pochettino on the sort of welcome he can expect on Monday when he arrives for his first home game against Everton. Pochettino’s grasp of English - he needed an interpreter for today’s unveiling, also sets off alarm bells at such a delicate stage of the decision.

As for Adkins, sympathy is clearly due but his sacking may, in some senses, also come as a relief. With a contract that did not expire until 2016, he will walk away with a good pay-off and, above all, a reputation that has been hugely enhanced. It is more that can be said today for the club or its chairman.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 18 Jan 13 16:16
New manager stitched the owner up straight away:


Pochettino - "i know about the squad, been researching it for weeks"
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 18 Jan 13 16:17
really want them relegated now
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 18 Jan 13 16:21
We don't know what happens behind the scenes. Probably internal differences or something.

They did spend quite a bit of money (12 million on Ramierz alone!) and despite Adkins doing a "great" job they are still firmly in a relegation battle.

The owners are obviously ambitious and like to take a risk, I quite admire that.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 18 Jan 13 16:32
There have been rumours all season Adkins would get the chop. In the summer they had approached Di Matteo to take the job and had he not had his contracted renewed by Chelsea Adkins would have gone then.

It seems very harsh on Adkins but obviously for whatever reason the owner didn't want him long term. The new guy says he knows the squad because he has been studying them for weeks so he must have been approached a while ago.

Southampton fans may choose to turn on the owner/ board but they should remember where they were a few years ago.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 18 Jan 13 16:32
"They did spend quite a bit of money (12 million on Ramierz alone!) and despite Adkins doing a "great" job they are still firmly in a relegation battle"





He took over a side in the league one relegation zone and within 2 and a half years had them 15th in the premier league.

Most people would struggle to do a better job than that on Football Manager.
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 18 Jan 13 16:34
id bet good money this new bloke doesnt do as well as adkins
By:
Punting for Profit
When: 18 Jan 13 16:45
incredible
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 18 Jan 13 16:45
Biscuit, so did Paul Lambert. The difference between League 1 and the bottom half of the Premiership is negligible.
By:
buzzer
When: 18 Jan 13 16:45
Their cup run was ended by a regional third-division side and that set the template for the horrendous year to follow. When a hapless, hopeless Real Zaragoza beat Espanyol 2-0 in Barcelona, coach Mauricio Pochettino described it as "a little accident" a minor blip. It was not.

Espanyol tumbled down the table to finish 14th and the Argentine was fortunate not to join the twelve top-flight coaches who lost their job last season, his team were crude and he had no idea how to halt their slide. His side were 18th in the fair-play table, with more yellow cards received than any other club.

Espanyol's youthful beauty had been replaced by a snarling beast who did not know how to lose gracefully.


The new season did not bring relief as they picked up just two points from their opening seven matches and sat bottom. By the end of November, they had managed two wins from 13 games and remained 20th.

Crowds in their new, 40,000-seat stadium tumbled from nearly 30,000 a year ago to just 15,500 for one league match. The Blanquiazules have 21,000 season-ticket holders - over 5,000 of them decided that they could not be bothered to attend games they had already paid for, the football was awful.

The beleaguered club once heralded as a role model for a medium-sized operation were falling apart. Just 7,463 watched a November Copa del Rey game against Sevilla. They lost 3-0.

The president departed and Pochettino was finally dismissed in November. Replaced by former Mexico and Atletico Madrid coach Javier Aguirre, fortunes finally began to improve. Espanyol drew his first three matches and held Real Madrid away. Then they beat Deportivo in their last match.
First targets are Ben Thatcher and Julian Dicks
By:
scott1092
When: 18 Jan 13 16:48
very very strange decision ,thought Adkins , was doing a great job there
By:
pauliow
When: 18 Jan 13 17:01
Sounds to me like they already have Dicks at the club!
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 18 Jan 13 17:16
Hamsterdam 18 Jan 13 16:45 
Biscuit, so did Paul Lambert. The difference between League 1 and the bottom half of the Premiership is negligible.

Confused

Nonsense
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 18 Jan 13 17:18
if he was called nigelo akdinio he would probably still be in job

what is it with english managers being written off and jobs given to unproven foreigners
By:
Nige down south
When: 18 Jan 13 17:19
I have had a small investment on Saints to go down on the back of this.

New manager who does not speak English, players will be upset with Atkins going (might well get a couple of transfer requests?), supporters unhappy.

I think they could well be dragged into the bottom 3.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 18 Jan 13 17:21


Nige down south
18 Jan 13 17:19
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I have had a small investment on Saints to go down on the back of this.

New manager who does not speak English, players will be upset with Atkins going (might well get a couple of transfer requests?), supporters unhappy.

I think they could well be dragged into the bottom 3.


Seems a likely outcome now. Monday will give us a few clues.
By:
berto77
When: 18 Jan 13 17:28

Jan 18, 2013 -- 5:18PM, STEPTOES YARD wrote:


if he was called nigelo akdinio he would probably still be in jobwhat is it with english managers being written off and jobs given to unproven foreigners


Spot on.  Awful decision.  The timing of the decision is the strangest thing, just as they're picking up results.  I hoped they'd stay up, now I hope they go down.

I tipped Adkins before the season as first manager to be sacked, mainly because of the vanity and ruthlessness of Cortese.  In one respect I'm surprised he's waited this long.  He obviously wanted a trendy, fashionable manager.  Pochettino did great last season but left Espanyol in a right mess.

By:
Punting for Profit
When: 18 Jan 13 17:48
Thought he was in line for manager of the year.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 18 Jan 13 17:48
G1_Jockey_4 - it seems what you know about Spanish football (or indeed any football) could be contained within a postage stamp.

must be the biggest postage stamp in the world then.
By:
moisok
When: 18 Jan 13 17:54
when I see this I love to see the club fk up even more - just like chelski - hilarious - I really hate professional football and only stay for the betting - call me a cynic or anything
but love to see them be so wrong
By:
Bergkamp93
When: 18 Jan 13 17:58
Absolutely fcuking disgusting decision, and bizarre at that !!

Hope the Espanyol chap fails miserably ..(sorry southampton fans but whoever sacked adkins is pathetic)

Adkins must feel sick to his stomach Sad
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 18 Jan 13 18:03
CJ70
18 Jan 13 12:12
Joined:  26 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 6,942 | Blogger: CJ70's blog
2.74 for saints to go down. I'll have a bit of that.


Me too! You can't turn you nose up at a chance to make a profit, even if that chance has come via one of the most shockingly bizarre sacking ever in football.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 18 Jan 13 18:06
this looks like the work of a fifth columnist, sure the owner isnt a pompey fan ?
By:
Bergkamp93
When: 18 Jan 13 18:06
Whippin Piccadilly • January 18, 2013 6:03 PM GMT
CJ70
18 Jan 13 12:12
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2.74 for saints to go down. I'll have a bit of that.

Me too! You can't turn you nose up at a chance to make a profit, even if that chance has come via one of the most shockingly bizarre sacking ever in football.

Totally agree, I am still in serious SHShockedCK at this Crazy
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