Suarez will say it was "The Hand Of God"

if thats the depths they are prepared to plumb, i'm taking my justice cd back

Jan 7, 2013 -- 3:34PM, CheltenhamRoar wrote:

No surprise,Espn are basically LFC TV

That's why their numpty commentator is rebuked for making disparaging remarks about a Liverpool player is it?

he didnt say hand of god he said it was the hand of his dad dodd(ken)

Scholes for England can't remember who against.

Those who single Suarez out for this dont have a clue. It is up to the referee to spot these things, simple as that.

mansfield players said they would have done the same.
So would any striker.
The ball hit his hand accidentally anyway,whats the problem??

Oh yes,its Luiz Suarez.

The witchhunt goes on.

Sad so sad.

only people who know absolutely nothing about football will think that suarez cheated against mansfield.

everybody else saw the ball bounce up and hit his hand.

that's not cheating, that's accidental.

holding players in the penalty area is cheating.
try stamping that out before you start worrying about accidental handballs.

If Suarez took the ball in his hands and dived over the goal line rugby style Liverpool fans would say it is acceptable if the ref doesn't blow the whistle.

its not acceptable,but its not the players job to referee a game.
Cheating goes on in Football at all levels,either accept it or stop watching.
Simple.

Why stop watching?  If I see a cheat I will call it.  And keep calling it until he is stopped.

If that makes Suarez a cheat then virtually every player cheats every game unless they admit to every error the ref has made. It doesnt happen.

Those trying to make an exmaple of Suarez just make themselves look like complete mugs.

its like saying its ok to go round mugging people as long as you dont get caught


good job sabile wasnt a scouser or they'd be praying for him to get off

donny osmond - you are totally missing the point.

Players get away with poor referee decisions every week.

Why focus on Suarez?

Donny it was accidental at best, instinctive reaction at worst, not sure where you're coming from here

i'm not , i focussed on scholes on saturday and suarez on sunday


part of my ongoing highlite how bad the refs are





i could complain about shola getting booked for something the ref never saw, but then i'd be biased

lol cob, he kissed his wrist !!!

and of course hes done it before

world cup quarter final... so no doubt about his train of thought .....



and referencing Diego Maradona's goal against England in 1986, Suarez said: "Mine is the real 'Hand Of God'. I made the save of the tournament."

While Maradona punched home a goal as Argentina beat England 2-1 in the 1986 World Cup quarter-finals, saying it had been scored "a little with the hand of God", Suarez reacted to push out a certain goal and then watched as Ghana missed the resultant penalty with the last kick of the extra time.

"Sometimes in training I play goalkeeper so it was worth it," the 23-year-old said.

"There was no alternative but for me to do that and when they missed the penalty I thought 'It is a miracle and we are alive in the tournament'," added the striker.[

which he does after every goal he scores.

Donnny - what is wrong with what he did for Uraguay?

He broke no rules and kept them in the world cup. If hes didnt do that then he is a fool.

if he broke no rules, why was a pelanty awarded ?

He kisses his wrist after every goal, he has scored a shed load this season, I thought people would know his celebration by now

He gave away a penalty which he was entitled to do.

Call all cheats cheats then. That is the point.

so roy keane broke no rules with his tackle on haland ??

lol, you've lost the plot

I am saying that he didnt cheat.

well you can say that,

you are wrong imo, but obviously you are entitled to your opinion

No I am right. He didnt cheat to keep Uraguay in the world cup. Simple facts son.

Jan 7, 2013 -- 4:58PM, trevortricky wrote:

he didnt say hand of god he said it was the hand of his dad dodd(ken)

Hand of Dodd 

He took one for his country, a nobler act you will rarely find IMO

so it wasnt a pelanty, and he didnt get sent off

and was rested from the semi final cos he wasnt really banned for cheating

It was a penalty and he did get sent off.

In what way did he cheat?

He played the rules as any player with half a brain would have.

Is taking down a player when through on goal cheating in your opinion?

if its on purpose then of course it is


thats why fifa brought in rules over the years to try to prevent it


is spitting ok if the player doesnt get caught, or just gets sent off ?

how about players kicking the crowd, thats a sending off too, but not breaking any rules as there is a punishment for it


what about match fixing, do you condone that too ?

It is not cheating though that is the point.

Spitting on someone is not cheating at all.

So you know what cheating even means?

i'd love to hear your definition of cheating


mine is any breach of a rule .....

So you class an unintentional late tackle as someone cheating?

Donny, you appear to have gone off on one here

Do you really think punching a ball into the net a la Maradona is the same as a player on the line stopping a goal?

some fouls are accidental, so not cheating

go on , define cheating , you've lost the plot

He didnt cheat or try to con anyone he blatantly commited a foul and knew he would get sent off.

That is not cheating.

suarez saving that goal, and his post match interview explains his mind set

.......that he punched one in yesterday, is the same,

Suarez apologists tying themselves in knots here

Any player that doesnt hand the ball the way he did in the world cup is a mug.

You're saying he punched one in yesterday when it is widely acknowledged that it was accidental, so I can only conclude you're on the wind up or something, you said you wanna highlight bad reffing, so why are you moaning about a handball at a world cup years ago?

widely acknowledged by his apologists

To cheat you act dishonestly, he didnt do that at the World Cup. He knew exactly what he was doing and played the rules to his teams advantage.

cheating is trying to gain an advantage whilst breaking the rules and getting away with it,suarez never did that yesterday,it was accidental hitting his hand.

Cheating refers to an immoral way of achieving a goal. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain advantage in a competitive situation. Cheating is the getting of reward for ability by dishonest means. This broad definition will necessarily include acts of bribery, cronyism, sleaze, nepotism and any situation where individuals are given preference using inappropriate criteria.[Medical Education 1] The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating a subjective process. Cheating can refer specifically to marital infidelity. Someone who is known for cheating is referred to as a cheat in British English, and a cheater in American English. A "cheat" does not have to cheat all the time, but once faced with a challenge that they do actually want to win, they will go back to their cheating strategies

Your post proves it all.

To cheat you act dishonsetly which was not the case at the World Cup.

Next they will be saying Lance Armstrong is clean ffs

oh dear ...

apologists must be some sort of buzz word lately , seeing it everywhere!

You got a bee in your bonnet about cheating for some reason, you seem offended by any minimal breaking of rules and conclude everything is cheating, there is no in between, Newcastle will not be relegated,I hope that might perk you up a bit.

Difference between cheating and playing the rules.

Is someone taking down a player through on goal a cheat?

Cheat is a very strong word Donny you dont just start branding every player in the PL a cheat because they may have clipped someones heel and broke the rules, maybe mistime a tackle, unintentional handball etc etc..cheat cheat cheaters the lot of em!

minimal breaking of rules

Donny is classing breaking a rule to gain an advantage as cheating.

If that is the case there would be 22 cheats on the pitch every week.

They all push the rules.

Donny are all these situations players cheating?

1. Bringing down a player when opposition on the break
2. Not admitting when offside
3. Goalkeeper booked for time waisting.

Cant answer as you know your point of breaking a rule to get an advantage is clearly different to cheating.

i have answered , see above

None so hypocritical as football as football fans at times.
A game full of rule bending by players and a few high profile managers,game of few rules and less of a sport these days.

As for Suarez, would he get this kind of attention if he were English,or a Man Utd player,no,of course not.
Along with RVP and Aguero, this guy is a class above any other matchwinner in the prem,shame he is not a bag of sh1te and the manu fans would be able to deal with these things and move on.

You have not answered.

Simple yes or no will do for each -
1. Bringing down a player when opposition on the break
2. Not admitting when offside
3. Goalkeeper booked for time waisting.

Ref says it wasn't a deliberate hand ball, nuff said.

to clarify then .....


1...if deliberate yes

2...does he know he is offside, if he is certain he is offside they dont go for the ball,
    not sure admitting to being offside is part of the game

3...yep cheating

Wow, some amount of cheats going about in your opinion.

A player pulls on oppostion shirt and you have them branded as a CHEAT.

Unreal.

yes but i'm not allowed to say that on betfair forum

betfair police out in force





would you not prefer a game where all players tried to stick to the rules ?

Yes I would but sport is not like that and not everyone who breaks a rule is a cheat.

All sports are the same.

thats your opinion .....

Yip and it is fact.

its not a fact, its only your moral judgement on cheating being ok

Better not watch any games off football ever again donny as by your definition there will be around 20 cheats on the pitch.

At least we are all agreed Suarez did not cheat yesterday.
Baffled why the fuss is still going on,but then the media love it,so not that suprising.
Bit surprised with the muppets following the media though.

so long as that makes it ok in your world

Liverpool fans dont like anyone else having a valid opinion of their own. Otherwise they are hounded like that commentator who called a spade a spade when he called Suarez a cheat. Organised phone in and complain until hes reprimanded for having an opinion that differs from kop party line.

Remember all that guff about uruguayan spanish patois and what words mean in backstreets of Montevideo. Instead of just accepting his racism and the FA ban. We had a thousand words on what the correct definition of "negrito" was and how it wasnt racist.

Fast forward today and its same fans telling us what cheating is in football and how punching it over the line with your hand is perfectly legitimate!

Phil Neviille and Luis Suarez have 2 things in common

both have handled on the line!

both are divers!

Brendan you're the definition of a bitter blue!

err no 1 is the stumbling block, as liverpool fans still think it was accidental

phil neville.....oh dear


Hypocrite springs to mind!!!

lol

pointless if the police are removing perfectly decent posts .....

yes had one of mine removed, no idea why. Maybe the kopites are complaining

wtf is going on here, why was my post deleted

Donny did you see it about a team full of Newcastle cheats?

those that are protesting it was dfeliberate need to prove it was,good luck with that one.

no one of jams removed as well


as i say pointless if you cant have a debate without them removing perfectly decent points

It was pre meditated buddeliea he had all 0.000000000020 secs to plot it , then carry it out.

plenty of time

I've c&p'ed it this time incase the police get called again

Are you bud? I'm not. Amazed half the forumites can dress themselves of a morning.

diabolical two handed push

Do you pen for the M***or

Hunter,i guess you liked Drogba

fumnny how drogba starts getting mentioned when a chelsea fan starts banging on

Look's like some Geordies out there are taking offence to my post, may I just state for the record, I don't believe they have a team full of cheats, just wondering if Donny by his standards would class them as that! Here goes again...

Collocini Kicked Suarez Cheater

Perch faked injury cheater

Ba scored form a handball Cheater

Cabaye countless dirty tackles  Cheater

Taylor handles on the lines and then fakes an injury (pretty bad that) Cheater

So Donny, would you concede Newcastle have a team full of cheats

Small and Ginger vivid imiganiation as always .

You are describing the sterotype Oirish Liverpool fan  pal

Let's have you Donny lad, tick tock.

cob, they will take offence at you repeating posts they remove

you'll get banned, and i wouldnt want that

best leave it if they remove it again

Roy Carrol scoops ball out, three foot over the goaline....?

Fair enough, I'm a newb to this whole post removing lark ,I norm don't offend, though I'm not sure what's so bad about it.

Erm, you still didn't answer the Q like!

the taylor attempt was comical and he was roundly criticised up hear, and hes been told to cut it out loads of times , even when i was there, he laughs, but seems to have got some of the message


bas looked accidental to me, hey ho .....


perch ???? dont know that one

cabaye, sometimes hes retaliated, again hes criticised for it ....

collocini, lol, probably the only time he was close to him .....

Ba's looked accidental to me too but then so did Suarez'

You don't remember Perch getting Reina sent off with a dying swan act? from a 'headbutt'

think i was on holiday ..... you've reminded me of something, not sure i've got exactly the right one so cant comment

Never fear, Youtube is here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4h9zbyqgIg

aye, soft lad went down easy there, what was reina doing anyway though ?

gary neville and alan hansen seem to think going down is acceptable to highlite an incident

quite a fuuny thread
but prize for most ridiculous analogy has to go to Brendan linking handball to the pre-meditated taking of drugs

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