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very surprised not to read anything on here about the so called "best fans in the world"(voted by themselves) behaviour at the boxing day match in dundee , local press stated over 70 drunken celtic fans thrown out of dens park ,crimes ranged from fighting amongst themselves ,urinating in public (over themselves) and being drunk and threatening stewards and police !!so far 12 arrests , if there were enough police present it would have been over 100 arrests no problem .being a dundee fan i watched in total shock at their behaviour and wondered why ? a celtic fan told me it was espn fault !! because they wanted a night game for tv ,i think he was only half drunk.the point being any excuse and get drunk and abuse people ? to me it just proves they are like any other club an element of the support have no respect for other fans just their own cause and think they can act like this anytime anywhere.i dread to think if a 2nd tier euro league is formed and these animals are free to roam around europe , between them and rangers (remember manchester ?) well you do the maths
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Many Celtic supporters have Irish Grandparents.
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local press stated over 70 drunken celtic fans thrown out of dens park ,crimes ranged from fighting amongst themselves ,urinating in public (over themselves) and being drunk and threatening stewards and police
In 20 years time they could be favorites for the Xmas No. 1. |
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As opposed to the good natured English soccer fans? Or do you support Lazio ?
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there was no violence what so ever
just drunks chanting ira junk , did anyone get injured NO move along. op wasnt at game , if he was why it take him a week to vent his feelings |
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ops name is lazio eagle, says it all really hes a rangers fan and no doubt a fascist bully
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the pubs in dundee where happy enough for to serve everyone
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This has already been discussed.
undee FC operations manager Jim Thomson said that his staff were shocked at some of the behaviour by an element of the travelling support on Wednesday night. He added: "There was widespread drunkenness, and I mean widespread, within the Celtic support. We were confiscating drink from supporters in the concourse leading to the turnstiles. They were clearly drunk coming in and we had a decision to make on whether we let them in and we took the decision that we had to let them in because we would have had other consequences if we didn't. "Once in, they were abusing our turnstile staff, our canteen staff and even fighting among themselves, and I mean serious disorder within the concourse. All in all it was just not a nice experience. In the 20 years I've been organising games here at Dens Park I have never seen anything like that - it was a throwback to the 70s that we are all probably ashamed of. "I would say that the scheduling of the fixture (it was televised on ESPN with a 7.30pm kick-off) didn't help. Nonetheless, I don't want to make light of it, but I can have a skinful but I'm not going to go and behave like people did last night. It's just not acceptable." |
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its like this often at games
dundee just havnt seen much of this lately , so are shocked.so they let drunks in even though they knew pull the other one.they should be fined then |
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Must be True was in The Sun...
Was the riot on you tube anywhere  |
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where was the fights , if you seen it you would see people falling about drunk.no punches where thrown NAP.where is the footage as lets be honest there is always camera phones out even when you think your walking down the road alone.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKfqLW1tfgo
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seeebooo there was no riot and we all know it
believe the papers at your perol.no wonder the countries in a mess , everyone believes the record and thesun. |
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TheChaser
Its Sinister Hatchet Job on The Celtic Fans / No doubt their was drunkenness Boxing day match & evening kick-off ...Dundee Fans were punching stewards No mention of that  |
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if there was enough police there would have been 100 arrests
so Dundee didnt supply enough police to arrest 100 drunks.i think dundee should be charged here.anything could have happened. |
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"Once in, they were abusing our turnstile staff, our canteen staff
was it burger boy and all those nasty names.what a joke |
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pers flared at Wednesday’s SPL match amid reports of widespread drunkenness among the away support, including fans fighting between themselves and abusing staff.
Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell said: “We are very proud that Celtic supporters enjoy such a great reputation and it is therefore extremely disappointing that the behaviour of a small minority has tarnished the good name of the club and our fans in this way. “Clearly, we apologise to Dundee Football Club – we will work with them and look into any incident which is raised and if we can identify any individuals involved, we will obviously take the strongest possible action. “We have received a number of complaints from our own supporters about the conduct of this minority – we cannot allow our supporters’ enjoyment of our matches to be affected in this way and we will not sit and allow the club’s reputation to be damaged. “Our supporters over many years have earned a fantastic reputation for positively supporting the club – we will not allow this to be taken from them. “It is time for all our true supporters who care about Celtic to unite with the club and find a solution to this problem.” Dundee FC officials blamed the evening kick-off for the chaotic scenes. Jim Thomson, the operations manager at Dundee FC, said the behaviour of a section of the away support was like a “throwback to the 1970s”. He said: “I have never seen anything like the behaviour of the Celtic fans in the 20 years I have been running games at Dens Park. “The situation was almost unmanageable and I have never seen so many people drunk. “Our fans were abused, our stewards were abused and no doubt the police were abused. The turnstile operators were visibly shaken. “The away fans had no respect for their surroundings — they were doing the toilet where they stood. “I had Celtic fans come up to me to tell me they were ‘embarrassed’ by their fans’ behaviour.” Mr Thomson blamed the late kick-off of the game – which Celtic won 2-0 and which was broadcast live on ESPN. He said: “The game should never have kicked off at 7.30pm on Boxing Day – it gave the supporters too much time to get drunk. “Everyone knows this time was chosen to fit in with the TV schedule but the atmosphere at the game was frightening.” A Tayside Police spokeswoman said a number of people are to be reported to the procurator fiscal for alleged football-related offences. 0 Share Post a new comment Login - Or - Guest Post 46 Comments RSS|Subscribe John2 days ago many of these posts seem to miss the point, on a number of fronts ... it matters not who these individuals support or what time a game kicks off at, it is about individual responsibility and respect, for themselves and for others ... those who transgressed are responsible for their actions and should suffer the consequences ... it is time football supporters, not just here in scotland, to grow up ... i have attended professional hockey games in canada and professional football and soccer games in america, where you can enjoy a pint or two or three, be sat beside someone supporting the other team, and there is rarely ever, and if so, it is dealt with swiftly, an incident ... and am not talking about a few thousand at dens park to watch an otherwise woeful sporting product, rather 20 odd thousand at a hockey game and 80 odd thousand at an american football match, shame on those who did what they did and ditto on those who make excuses, and shame on those who blame the police ... Reply 0 Kenneth Graham2 days ago Let's hope that something positive comes out the situation at Dens Park that evening, It IS GREAT attending a DUNDEE DERBY , just hope going to a DUNDEE FC v CELTIC or DUNDEE UTD v CELTIC game in the future will be something to look forward also Let the SFA POICE AND CELTIC INVESTIGATE AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO RECTIFY FOR THE FUTURE. Reply 0 Eli the Bearded4 days ago Lets see how true Lawwell is to his word.One of his season ticket holders has been identified for him through a Court appearance today.He has been banned from attending any Celtic away match until his Trial.Will Lawwell do similar and take away his Season ticket until he is proven guilty or not.Dont hold your breath.Lawwell is a man who issues an apology by starting off with how much his Club and fans are loved by everyone around the World.The arrogance of the man apart from the delusion is quite breathtaking. Reply 0 JOHN4 days ago The reason that Unied are not anti-catholic is that they were Dundee Hibs. They are a neutral club, as are Dundee, however there always a few bigots in all clubs. We had problems at East End the last time Celtic came. The police refused to take action agaist their abusive chanting. I complained to an officer of the law, and all I got out of him (in a Glaswegian accent) was that he did not hear them say anything wrong. I am afraid that we supporters of provincial clubs have no voice compared to the Glaswegian Bigot Brothers. Reply 1 reply +1 Lochee4 days ago 'The reason that Unied are not anti-catholic is that they were Dundee Hibs' the ignorance of this comment sums up why Scotland has such a big problem with sectarianism. Why would anyone need a reason not to be anti catholic? Reply 0 Fairs Fair4 days ago Once again, Tayside police fail to control a crowd (Poles and Russians at Tannadice) and now Celtic at Dens. Wait until the next game Dundee or United have against Ross County though and they will arrest someone for dropping a sweetie wrapper. They are not fit for purpose. Reply 0 Lindsay4 days ago @Straight back down..never happend..link please? obviousy and Arab making mischief. Reply 5 replies 0 Straight back down4 days ago i don't have a link, i witnessed it, i didn't bother writing an article on it i'm afraid. Which bit do you not believe? The racial bause against Efe Ambrose? The anti catholic shouts/ chants? Or the fighting with police/ stewards? Anyone else commenting able to back me up and confirm all 3 took place? And by the way i have zero interest in Dundee United, however to their credit i've never heard any anti catholic remarks from their fans is not very common in Scottish football Reply 4 replies 0 Fairs Fair4 days ago No interest in United, only anti Dundee as your post name suggests. I too think you are making this up Reply 2 replies 0 Lochee4 days ago i also saw the Dundee fans fighting with stewards, several were ejected for this. I did not hear any racism from them however. You can bury the head in the sand all you like, the behaviour of some Celtic fans the otehr night was a disgrace, however there were some clowns in the home end that night as well Reply 1 reply 0 Lindsay3 days ago Jeez here's another one..with the porky pies..deflect deflect deflect. 0 Lindsay3 days ago Straight back down18 hours ago i'll translate that for you... 'i'm a Sevco fan and wasn't at the game' Jeez make your mind up..lol.. Reply 0 Straight back down4 days ago so Peter Lawell has apologised for the behaviour of Celtic fans at the game, and rightly so. Will Jim Thomson now do the same and apologise for the vile chants, racism and the minority of Dundee fans who openly fought with Police and stewards in full view of everyone? Didn't think so Jim, convenient to blame the Celtic fans for everything Reply 0 edd4 days ago I lived on Provost road for years and Celtic fans were always the worst for drunken behavior littering and peeing up our close. All visiting supporters were loud and most of them behaved themselves , but the Celtic were always a nightmare. They didn't respect the area whatsoever. Reply 0 weescott4 days ago No mention of the Dundee Fan who was arrested and will be charged under football offences! Reply 2 replies 0 Lindsay4 days ago I know 1 Dundee fan lifted out of over 5000..thats affy..lol Reply 1 reply 0 Straight back down4 days ago 4 Celtic fans lifted and it's classed as a riot! Reply 0 John Jones4 days ago Another nice little reminder of why Old Firm people who think the English Premier League is just gagging to see Celtic and Rangers playing down south are simply away with the fairies. Back in reality-land most EPL clubs consistently oppose such a move. One reason is that no-one wants to import the toxic and very 19th-century prejudices of some of the Old Firm's fans into England's 21st-century towns and cities. Can you imagine? One lot of blokes still re-fighting the battle of the Boyne and singing songs baiting Catholics? On the other side guys singing pro-IRA ditties (and, if the match was just before 11 November, every chance that tens of thousands of working-class English football followers at a stadium would be treated to the sight of see Celtic fans purposely denigrating the Remembrance rituals, effectively emulating those lovely Asian gentlemen who nearly caused a riot in Luton.) Why on earth would sensible, secular-minded English people want a piece of THAT? Reply 1 reply +1 Dreddi4 days ago If the Old Firm were to play in England it would be absolute carnage but it wouldn't just be the Scots fault. The fans of every English team with a reputation for disoder would without doubt look towards these fixtures as an opportunity to cause trouble. It would like being back in the Dark Ages. Reply 0 Hoops fan4 days ago What can I say,....I was amongst the away support at Dens on Boxing Day and yes, a few people had 'one too many' but i did not see any fighting, abuse etc etc. most of the Celtic fans I have spoken to on FB & Twitter were not aware of any fighting, abuse etc. There are always a few idiots who spoil things at every game but this should not tarnish the reputation of our fans! Every single club has a minority like this, Dundee included. Perhaps if Mr Thomson thinks this is unmanageable, he should give up! Reply 1 reply 0 Lindsay4 days ago Yeh thats the ticket Mr Thomson should give up because drunken adults cannot behave themselve's..get real . Reply +1 Dee4life4 days ago I am a Dundee season ticket holder and take my children to all home games, i thought initially the crowd banter was fantastic and all very light hearted but this seemed to change when the fireworks were set off and it was clearly visible that the authorities did not have much of a clue what to do, The behaviour of the MINORITY of celtic fans was appalling and led me to leave early through concerns for the safety of my children as we have to walk through the away support to get home. I would agree that the late kick off during a festive period did not help matters but i would also like to point out that during the recent Derby game there seemed to be a greater police/steward presence in the away stand than against Celtic and it is common knowledge that celtic ALWAYS have a large travelling support. I hope for all the true Celtic fans out there that they manage to weed out these so called fans and do not have there name dragged through the mud again, after all clubs like Dundee rely on big travelling support to help us balance the books. Come on the dee !!! Reply 0 Angus McKain4 days ago There is an element of each clubs supporters who are a pest but, Celtic away fans seem to have a minority who are outright distasteful and have witnessed this at Tynecastle more than once. Remembrance Sunday they were outright morons with no respect for anyone or anything even spitting on the young girls and boys collecting for the poppy appeal. Nae class. Reply +1 Kenneth Graham4 days ago Im a Dundee fan and I have great respect for CELTIC, but what happened on the 26th has ruined my views of Celtic.... It reminds me of the reputatation of the former Glasgow Rangers......The SFA and Celtic have to address this big time . DUNDEE HAVE CATHOLICS AND PRODISTENT VIEWS but they do not protray it like the likes of Celtic ...DUNDEE IS A GREART CITY AND HAVE TWO GREAT TEAMS WITH LITTLE OR NO FIGHTING., Help keep good behaviour and family atmophere in Scottish football Reply 7 replies 0 Max4 days ago I understand that the police decided to 'kettle' the Celtic fans once they were in the Shankly. That's a first for Scottish football. It also means that drunken Celtic fans posed the biggest danger to other drunken Celtic fans during the game as they rampaged in the stand. Reply 1 reply 0 rob4 days ago No fans in the shankly stand were kettled... cops were standing track side of the barrier toward the trouble makers (as seen in both pictures) Reply 0 Straight back down4 days ago DUNDEE HAVE CATHOLICS AND PRODISTENT VIEWS some of the chants i heard at Dens the other night would suggest otherwise. Or does it just count as banter if it's not Celtic/ Sevco fans? Reply 4 replies 0 Lindsay4 days ago No you never, stop telling lies.. Reply 1 reply 0 Straight back down4 days ago why on earth would i want to make this up? Clearly in denial and wanting to play along with the old 'it's only a West of Scotland problem'. Biggest myth i've ever heard, try being a Celtic fan at Tynecastle, Fir Park, Dens Park or Falkirk and you'll see how much of a myth this is Reply 0 soarsa4 days ago Dundee have their own problems but the number of Celtic fans causing on Boxing day was far larger than the idiots that all teams have. My friends follow both teams and would have been appalled at the behaviour urinating in the stands fighting in the street between Dens and Tannadice. i have no axe to grind I come from Oban but have followed Dundee since 1958. I was at this game in the centre of the old stand where were you? cause you did not see the same game as most of us Reply 1 reply 0 Lindsay3 days ago Of couse he wasn't at the game..he's a saddo with no life. Reply 0 Eli the Bearded4 days ago And therein lies the problem.Lawwell's continued denial that Celtic have a massive problem with a section of their support that are a Law unto themselves.He sanctioned their preferred status at Parkhead.Yes the Green Brigade with their anti British and pro IRA banners.They have caused problems all over Scotland for a number of years and will continue to do so until they are properly dealt withAnd @rustyArab.You dont do irony do you.Dundee Utd fined 3 years in a row by UEFA for fans behaviour and a full scale riot in the stand this year against the Russians.Utd fans boards begging Celtic fans to come to the cup tie against Rangers because of the boycott.That's the two cheeks you are talking about. Reply 3 replies 0 horseradish4 days ago The "Green Brigade" have never sung Pro-Ira songs or displayed 'Pro-IRA' banners. They sing Irish songs which are the non IRA variety but ignorant folk like yourself hear an Irish ditty, you dislike it & then churn out a load of rubbish saying it's pro-IRA. They have not displayed Pro-IRA banners. One time they produced a banner against the wearing of poppies because of the atrocities imposed on the Irish by the British forces. You can argue that should have no place at a football game but free speech is a right. Then again, this is the country where the police cautioned Artur Boruc for blessing himself at Ibrox!!! He blessed himself at every game he was involved in. Sick country. Reply 2 replies +1 Eli the Bearded4 days ago I would love to agree with you but there is not enough room up your backside for two heads.They dont sing PIRA songs or have PIRA banners.Pfft.Go and peddle that garbage elsewhere. They are forever supporting and collecting money for terrorist organisations outside their own midden.The Poppy episode was just another shameful act in their disgusting anti British agenda.And if you want to talk about atrocities go and ask the people of London,Manchester and Birmingham abouit the IRA that you seem so keen to defend.Even some of the Celtic Players openly support terrorists i.e Stokes.Boruc was cautioned by the Police for inciting behaviour.Not for crossing himself.Thats the problem with you revisionists.You make it up as you go along. Reply 0 soarsa4 days ago You should visit Beau Hammel in northern france and see the monuments to the men from Ireland who died in the fields of Flanders in thousands where the poppy emblem comes from. Men from the Connaught Rangers as well as the Enniskillen Fusiliers men from all over Ireland who died defending freedom. Reply 0 Max4 days ago Who will apologise to Dundee fans??????? Will Celtic FC, who again are blaming a minority? Will the police, who were noticeable by their utter failure to deal with the situation? Will the stewards, who simply ran away but were content to focus only on Dundee fans?. Will ESPN, who now have washed their hands off the whole event? Will Dundee FC, who seem content to take the money? Will the SPL, who are now turning a blind eye to the general mayhem? COWARDS the lot of them. Dundee fans safety was completely compromised and no one is taking any responsibility for that. WHERE ARE THOSE APOLOGIES? Reply 2 replies 0 Straight back down4 days ago where you at the game? Seriously? There is no denying the behaviour of some Celtic fans was poor, however there was some shocking behaviour from Dundee fans as well, again conveniently overlooked Reply 1 reply 0 Lindsay4 days ago No there wasn't..your at it..give it up aye. Reply 0 snowghost4 days ago I am a Brighton fan and was up visiting friends in dundee and went to the match. Thankfully I was with dundee fans as the celtic fans were disgusting. They didn't care who they fought or abused. drunken bigoted louts. Reply 4 replies 0 raffa4 days ago Sad though i am to read of the alledged less than admirable behaviour of my fellow Celtic fans, the Celtic support as a whole have built up a great reputation over decades. This is not to be undone in one evening. The majority of decent, tolerant, law abiding Celtic fans care enough about that proud reputation to eradicate this type of behaviour as soon as possible. Sweeping generalisations are unhelpful. I speak as a fair minded, conscientious Celtic fan, proud of the club and the reputation of the majority of the support. Reply 0 Straight back down4 days ago i'll translate that for you... 'i'm a Sevco fan and wasn't at the game' Reply 2 replies 0 Lindsay4 days ago Lies again lol.. Reply 0 soarsa4 days ago At last you admit you were not there. took you long enough. If you were not there do not make comments on what you did not here and did not see. I remember the bad old days and was unfortunate enough to see Celtic Fans destroy Newcastle town centre and the Rangers do a similar job in Leeds. We do not need to go back to these days . admire the good Celtic and Rangers fans who are shamed by the actions of the animal minority Reply 0 rustyArab4 days ago once again,one half of Scotland's shame/ugly sisters/two cheeks of the same behind/ cause trouble. Let them and the other idiots from Govan go to the english /atlantic leagues and be rid of them for the good of the SCOTTISH game Reply 2 replies 0 Big Dee4 days ago ..This has nothing to do with Rangers supporters.. Reply 1 reply 0 rusty arab3 days ago maybe you should read my comment more carefully as I said ONE HALF NOT both halves on this occasion!! Reply 0 Welcome to the new Courier website We've had a makeover, and we want to know what you think. Click here to find out more OUR MOST ... 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You believe Peter Lawlell and other Celtic fans?
By the way Aberdeen took over 4,000 fans down to Dens 3 days later with no trouble. |
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After the game, Dundee FC operations manager Jim Thomson partly blamed the 7.30pm kick-off time on Boxing Day for the trouble.
He added: “The situation was almost unmanageable and I have never seen so many people drunk.” There are fears of more trouble when Thursday’s Edinburgh derby begins at 7.45pm. Lothian and Borders Police said they will be out in force, adding: “We would urge anyone watching the match to enjoy themselves, but ensure they do not ruin the occasion for anyone else.” Its the Dundee match organiser bottling he actually has to do a job now and not arrange 200 away fans in Division 1.What an old goat |
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shudacuda 01 Jan 13 14:58 Joined: 31 Oct 06 | Topic/replies: 2,662 | Blogger: shudacuda's blog You believe Peter Lawlell and other Celtic fans? By the way Aberdeen took over 4,000 fans down to Dens 3 days later with no trouble. 9k at Aberdeen v Dundee and no trouble made up you mean |
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There was drunks we all know that but VIOLENCE
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I agree about 1 thing.
They should'nt have been allowed in drunk in the 1st place. The Chaser you sir are in denial. |
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Lochee4 days ago
i also saw the Dundee fans fighting with stewards, several were ejected for this. I did not hear any racism from them however. You can bury the head in the sand all you like, the behaviour of some Celtic fans the otehr night was a disgrace, however there were some clowns in the home end that night as well Reply 1 reply 0 |
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Straight back down4 days ago
where you at the game? Seriously? There is no denying the behaviour of some Celtic fans was poor, however there was some shocking behaviour from Dundee fans as well, again conveniently overlooked Reply 1 reply |
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There was only 9k at the Celtic game.
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most celtic fans are travelling gypsy's . gypsy's like to fight. not suprised
Maybe since its the new year you would like to change your attitude and not post such vile ignorant filth but then you do support hearts |
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everyone was hammered dundee and celtic fans
wheres the footage of the fights nowhere as there was none but everyone was hammered |
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shudacuda
01 Jan 13 15:02 Joined: 31 Oct 06 | Topic/replies: 2,664 | Blogger: shudacuda's blog There was only 9k at the Celtic game. who said there wasnt |
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shuda in denial about what?
there was drunks signing ira songs YES i know but fights NOPE |
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any arrests for violence ?
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most celtic fans are travelling gypsy's . gypsy's like to fight. not suprised
Maybe since its the new year you would like to change your attitude and not post such vile ignorant filth but then you do support hearts Rate reply: He has been duly reported .Maybe this will put a stop to his bigotry and ignorance. |
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There was fighting amongst the Celtic fans themselves.
Apparantly there is a split faction in the Celtic ranks. |
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The Ringleader
it was a mad night He is alleged to have "sang a song in support of a proscribed terrorist organisation" during the match. The 19-year-old was one of four fans arrested at the match, with a further supporter being reported to the procurator fiscal. He pled not guilty to a charge brought under section 1(1) of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012. Fiscal depute Lynne Mannion asked the court to ban Mr McLeish from all matches ahead of a trial date in the New Year. But Jack Brown, defending, said his client had paid £500 for a Celtic season ticket this year and would lose out if he was banned from all games. |
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shudacuda
01 Jan 13 15:12 Joined: 31 Oct 06 | Topic/replies: 2,665 | Blogger: shudacuda's blog There was fighting amongst the Celtic fans themselves. Apparantly there is a split faction in the Celtic ranks. There was no violence why was there no arrests for fights then.Are you allowed to fight amongst yourselves without getting arrested now. |
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shuda the daily record and a witness said there was fighting amongst celtic fans
shuda where exactly where you on boxing day as i know for a fact you werent in dundee the bandit town |
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anyway got bets to do , shuda obviously has a grudge against celtic fans , cant think why
the buses where covered in celtic fans blood on the way home and they fought until dawn , this is what you want to here. |
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shuda is the op , SIMPLES
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I've read through most of this thread, and I've arrived at the conclusion that there are far more semi literate people on Betfair than I'd previously thought.
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Only semi?
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