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meant to post this, said Anzi by mistake
Liverpool would have 4 (v Udinese+YB)
Liverpool would have 4 (v Udinese+YB)
For those struggling, even despite biscuits attempts, this explains it quite clearly:
With head-to-head the first tie-breaker in the Europa League, it means that if Young Boys beat an already advanced Anzhi while Liverpool defeat already demoted Udinese, all three would be level on ten points and the group would be decided by the records of the three clubs only against each other—in short, the points earned against Udinese wouldn't count, but Liverpool would need to beat Udinese to get things to the point where those points wouldn't count.
If that were to happen, Liverpool and Anzhi would advance—Liverpool thanks to a win and a draw against Young Boys and one win and one loss against Anzhi putting them on seven mini group points, while Anzhi would have six points thanks to a win and a loss against both other sides. That would leave Young Boys with a win and a loss against Anzhi, but with a loss and draw in their head-to-head with Liverpool their point total when taking only the three level sides into account would be four. Meanwhile, if both of the final matches end in a draw and Liverpool remain level on points with only Young Boys, the head-to-head tiebreaker again hands the advantage to Liverpool.
However, if both sides lose it would mean Udinese would draw level on seven points with Liverpool and Young Boys, once again resulting in advancement being determined on the basis of only the three level clubs' records against each other—and with Anzhi well clear of the congestion. In that situation, Liverpool's two defeats at the hands of Uidinese along with a win and draw against Young Boys would leave them on only four points in the mini group. Udinese would be on six thanks to their two victories over Liverpool while Young Boys would be through with two victories over the Italians and a draw with Liverpool giving them seven points.
In short, things aren't all that much different for Liverpool now than they were before Thursday's draw, as qualification still boils down to the same thing—just win. Win and Liverpool are through, no matter what happens elsewhere. It would have been nice, though, for Rodgers to be able to leave the big names at home on the sixth of December.
With head-to-head the first tie-breaker in the Europa League, it means that if Young Boys beat an already advanced Anzhi while Liverpool defeat already demoted Udinese, all three would be level on ten points and the group would be decided by the records of the three clubs only against each other—in short, the points earned against Udinese wouldn't count, but Liverpool would need to beat Udinese to get things to the point where those points wouldn't count.
If that were to happen, Liverpool and Anzhi would advance—Liverpool thanks to a win and a draw against Young Boys and one win and one loss against Anzhi putting them on seven mini group points, while Anzhi would have six points thanks to a win and a loss against both other sides. That would leave Young Boys with a win and a loss against Anzhi, but with a loss and draw in their head-to-head with Liverpool their point total when taking only the three level sides into account would be four. Meanwhile, if both of the final matches end in a draw and Liverpool remain level on points with only Young Boys, the head-to-head tiebreaker again hands the advantage to Liverpool.
However, if both sides lose it would mean Udinese would draw level on seven points with Liverpool and Young Boys, once again resulting in advancement being determined on the basis of only the three level clubs' records against each other—and with Anzhi well clear of the congestion. In that situation, Liverpool's two defeats at the hands of Uidinese along with a win and draw against Young Boys would leave them on only four points in the mini group. Udinese would be on six thanks to their two victories over Liverpool while Young Boys would be through with two victories over the Italians and a draw with Liverpool giving them seven points.
In short, things aren't all that much different for Liverpool now than they were before Thursday's draw, as qualification still boils down to the same thing—just win. Win and Liverpool are through, no matter what happens elsewhere. It would have been nice, though, for Rodgers to be able to leave the big names at home on the sixth of December.
There could be opportunities in the To Qualify market while these games are on, as it is unlikely the average punter will have a good grasp of this or have done research. Ideally Liverpool would be 1-0 down but YB 0-3 down themselves .A lot of people , having seen Liverpool above YB in the pre match table ,would happily back Liverpool at any odds at all.
The Euro 2012 Top Scorer was a goldmine with all the people backing Torres at Evens when he actually had about 5 minutes to score a goal to win it
The Euro 2012 Top Scorer was a goldmine with all the people backing Torres at Evens when he actually had about 5 minutes to score a goal to win it
I spent a good while this morning working out all the possible results and still got the three-way tie wrong. As unlikely as it is to happen that could well be a goldmine.
Liverpool 1.98 are you fcking kidding me, is there something I don't know?
It's been a long standing forum question and has become something of a myth but week after week, game after game, who the f*ck backs Liverpool at these stupid prices?
Is it asian money that drives down their price to a stupid level most games?
Is it asian money that drives down their price to a stupid level most games?
Really biscuit I though it was deluded scousers who spunk their Giro's on Liverpool, surely that big money is what forces the price down!
Its bizarre biscuit..... can only assume it is overseas punters. Surely anybody with a modicum of football and betting knowledge can see we are too short in almost every game. Think you are right with Asia.
Well i've always thought (someone can correct me i'm sure) that Asian markets formed a price and the rest of the world usually fell in line with their markets.
So if that is the case, you'd expect them to be a bit shrewder and not have them at a wrong price so often.
I think kenilworth said on his thread they are consistenly the side that offer the worst betting returns
So if that is the case, you'd expect them to be a bit shrewder and not have them at a wrong price so often.
I think kenilworth said on his thread they are consistenly the side that offer the worst betting returns
Bilbao ,Valencia are aswell awful **** odds in home games week in week out. If u layed Liverpool 38 games a season since 2011/12 season ud have some serious profit made
Well i've always thought (someone can correct me i'm sure) that Asian markets formed a price and the rest of the world usually fell in line with their markets.
Yes
But tobermory is wrong here
I've backed Liverpool @ 2.04
Udinese are v poor + nothing to play for
Yes
But tobermory is wrong here
I've backed Liverpool @ 2.04
Udinese are v poor + nothing to play for
and liverpool arent poor? this is a side who won 1-3 at aNFIELD, the odds are completely wrong,pool would be 2/1 or more if this was a dead rubber. they have them too short still away from home even though it is a must win. pisspoor price
They'll go off 1.9 or lower.
Told ya
2.08 looking good now
Told ya
2.08 looking good now
they will id say, just heard udinese fielding a totally different side to last serie a match and suarez starts coz hes suspended for the hammers game sunday
Thats because the line ups have been announced. Liverpool with Suarez. Udinese without Di Natalie and Allan. Im on Liverpool here
The Reds team in full is: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Carragher, Skrtel, Henderson, Sahin, Allen, Suso, Downing, Suarez. Subs: Jones, Cole, Coates, Sterling, Shelvey, Assaidi, Wisdom
Strong side. I think 2.08 looks Ok now! Had an interest HT/FT at 3.35.
would be much better if they had stuck to good old fashioned goal difference and scored overall which would have kept this group still alive to the end. I wonder which clown dreamt up this scenario ?
hard to get excited about pool at 1.92 away from home, even given the situation.
udinese's basically a shop window for young latin american talent. you just know there's gonna be one unheard of who runs rings round carragher and is playing at juve two years from now.
udinese's basically a shop window for young latin american talent. you just know there's gonna be one unheard of who runs rings round carragher and is playing at juve two years from now.
Surprised that Anzhi have fielded a first choice team, especially when they've got Zenit at the weekend
Everyone expected a much changed team, even suggested not playing eto but went with the 2 up top
They'll win that if they play their usual boring game will Anzhi. Tough side to break down Young Boys will be kicking up strops late on if they need a goal
E.W.7 06 Dec 12 17:37
the reason is uefa
What have UEFA got to do with it?
the reason is uefa
What have UEFA got to do with it?
i will strat with unders @ 2.1 in YB game hope to trade out after 5min
E.W.7 06 Dec 12 17:45
they want liverpool to proceed
So you're saying UEFA told Anzhi to field a strong side because they want Liverpool to go through?
they want liverpool to proceed
So you're saying UEFA told Anzhi to field a strong side because they want Liverpool to go through?
Enerique in attacking position like has been or Downing?
Or maybe it´s artifical pitch in Bern Eto and co desperately want to play on
First Goalscorers:
Suso @ 15.00
Jordan Henderson @ 19.00
Suso @ 15.00
Jordan Henderson @ 19.00
Well not absolutely, laying odds on gives a small
margin, but commission takes it. No bet for me till
half time.
margin, but commission takes it. No bet for me till
half time.
looks like someone was happy to plough in as much money as people wanted on suarez at 9/2 and under.
No aftertiming I am on Liverpool 2.06 for a decent bit, need this. Come on the reds, dont let me down again.
cant see anything to suggest liverpool should be evens.......
yeah,nothing to discourage anyone from the draw at 3.55 (now) so far.
Dec 6, 2012 -- 5:59PM, Rhino-2k8 wrote:
First Goalscorers:Suso @ 15.00Jordan Henderson @ 19.00
amazing call, how much you put on henderson?
Dec 6, 2012 -- 6:24PM, keys wrote:
Dec 6, 2012 -- 5:59PM, Rhino-2k8 wrote:First Goalscorers:Suso @ 15.00Jordan Henderson @ 19.00amazing call, how much you put on henderson?
Get In! 
£10 mate
GTFI you beauty, come on get 2nd then just keep ball. The fact Henderson scored ,maybe my luck changing lol.
henderson was banging around in the mid 30s earlier.
Why are Liverpool still piling forward and now bringing on Sterling with 20 mins to go and they are 1-0 up .. ? Kill the game now ffs
Why are Liverpool still piling forward and now bringing on Sterling with 20 mins to go and they are 1-0 up .. ? Kill the game now ffs
Sir, Sir I know this one! Is it cos the manager's a delusional fool?
Slow, predictable, horrible.
Gonna have to watch Rome 77 now to get that out of my system.
Sir, Sir I know this one! Is it cos the manager's a delusional fool?
Slow, predictable, horrible.
Gonna have to watch Rome 77 now to get that out of my system.
Charlton. I don't mean to be rude but you are a bit of a t1t. Sterling was clearly brought on to be an outlet with a bit of pace. Would you have preferred more defenders and let them come on to us ffs?
Efficient European away performance and go through top of the group. You're consistent bashing is tedious and just makes you look pathetic. And a very poor judge.
Efficient European away performance and go through top of the group. You're consistent bashing is tedious and just makes you look pathetic. And a very poor judge.
Thats BR's achillies heel he doesn't know how to hold on to a lead and kill off games...Got away with this one BIG time... could have been out.. same happened with Young Boys and Udinese at Anfield leading both games then drew and lost them. Not to mention leading Utd City in the league at Anfield leading both the lost and drew..
Got to give him time to work it out though Vicky. And it's not just his fault, the players need to wise up.
I thought we restricted them to nothing until that last kick, it would have been extremely unlucky to concede like that. Carra, Skrtel were solid
Played sensibly for the last ten mins too. Kept the ball rather than attack a lot of the time. He'd clearly told them to be sensible if we got ahead I thought.
CCM if that di natalie shot was a foot lower we would be have been out of 3 from 4 competitions before christmas and it looks like we won't be in europe next year ..
If is the rather large and key word there though isn't it?
Ffs. He's getting stick for what nearly happened now
We nealy beat City, and nearly beat Everton, and nearly beat Stoke etc ad infinitum.
Ffs. He's getting stick for what nearly happened now
We nealy beat City, and nearly beat Everton, and nearly beat Stoke etc ad infinitum.
Why does it look like we won't be in Europe next year? We're bang there IMO.
As I said got away with that one Big Time. If job was done properly in the Young Boys game , would not have to be sweating buckets over this game into the 93rd minute last kick.
It doesn't matter. We have gone through top of the group. Job done.
it was only the last kick of game they got a sniff, ok nearly kacked my pants but on the whole it was a solid performance. if it wasnt for the goalies great showm, would have been 3-0 or something close
Another game Liverpool completely dominated.
Another game where Liverpool had the vast majority of chances.
Another game where Liverpool were holding on for dear life in injury time.
First half,we looked superb.Second half our pathetically weak mentality kicked in and we didn't know what to do....twist or stick and we ended up doing neither.
A win is a win but it's nowhere near good enough,imo........nothing wrong with the football,it's the players need to bloody toughen up
Another game where Liverpool had the vast majority of chances.
Another game where Liverpool were holding on for dear life in injury time.
First half,we looked superb.Second half our pathetically weak mentality kicked in and we didn't know what to do....twist or stick and we ended up doing neither.
A win is a win but it's nowhere near good enough,imo........nothing wrong with the football,it's the players need to bloody toughen up
two 1-0 wins in a row now without Suarez scoring, so we can do it without him, and we have to on sunday
Is the pony tailed one eligable to play against us on Sunday ?
Oh, did he hurt his hand on the photographers eye socket in mid week ?
Suarez didn't do much for his conversion stats tonight! 
I think it's his knee isn't it? Sure he's out for a couple of months or so?
Dec 6, 2012 -- 4:43PM, aaronh wrote:
Liverpool will win
Wow There is a first from Aaron ^^^^
On another note is the sportingbet site f*cked at the moment mate?
On another note is the sportingbet site f*cked at the moment mate?
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