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jokefair
04 Dec 12 12:37
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2-0 34'
18k backed on 1,1 before 1st whistle; will be 2-4 or sth?
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Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:33 PM GMT
GOALLLLLLL THAIBRIDES!!!!!
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 1:34 PM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijwQp-qrZRM
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:34 PM GMT
I imagine them just standing around waiting to score.
Report jokefair December 4, 2012 1:35 PM GMT
JP Morgan will lay the Iran whole bank ATM.
Report kingmax December 4, 2012 1:35 PM GMT
eve for 6th goal a bit high? ages to go here
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:35 PM GMT
i'm out of this now with a small profit. thankfully
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:36 PM GMT
didn't green out when it went 2-1 because was expecting the 2-2 Blush
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:36 PM GMT
it will end a draw i'm guessing 3-3
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:37 PM GMT
If this is dodgy I'm expecting a flood of cash at the 80th minute.
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
flood of cash for what? lay iran?
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
Who knows Laugh May be nothing wrong with this game at all.
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:41 PM GMT
you see too many fixes...
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
if this dosnt ends 3-3 it will be the joke of the year
Report lurka December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
7k backing anor goal at 1.9
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
3333
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
3-3
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
there it is
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
3-3
Report lurka December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
what unbelievable timing
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
Damn wish I'd seen the cash on the goal markets
Report jokefair December 4, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
so, now what do i do, lay the draw or stay on the draw, i guess someone will score another one?
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
do you think an UNDER 19 women's match is fixed? or just coincidence?
Report lurka December 4, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
think 4.5k was traded, so he got over 2k matched
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
Yeah the money gives it away.
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
how on earth this is not 3-4 i will never understand
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
still 3 mins of normal time to go..
Report lurka December 4, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
well that was over 5.5. keep an eye on o6.5 next
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
i layed the draw, will probably end up with minor green
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:45 PM GMT
The money was on the Iran lay just before the second goal so keep watching both markets
Report henok December 4, 2012 1:48 PM GMT
24 for 15 minutes of trading without at any moment having a liability of more than few cents. that said, this is mugs game and watch out for the big money. nobody gambles with big money on this sort of game without an inside knowledge or without having an unbelievably high edge.
Report cromulator December 4, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
the draw was 1.5 in the 88th minute!! crazy!!
Report henok December 4, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
follow my advice and you will mae money. good luck witht eh rest of addicts football.
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
2nd bad call by me today, shouldve stayed on the draw, now 2/3 less profit
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:51 PM GMT
prele, i made a bad call too. should have kept all my iran lays
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:51 PM GMT
instead i'm making very minor profit rather than a huge load of profit
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:52 PM GMT
FT 3-3
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
THE ENDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
****
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
hope everyone made something on this.
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
Ah it was 3-3. Think I need an eye bath after staring at the markets for so long Laugh
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
fooking slots!
Report lurka December 4, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
no big money on another goal or draw lay there
Report lurka December 4, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
can post-op trannies play for thailand W?!
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
because it was obvious that the games has a good chance for 3-3,that's why
dear oh dear,when guys here learn how to read a market?!
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:55 PM GMT
1. 10 EUR on iran
2. Iran 2-0
3. 90 on Iran
4. Traded back and forth and got 200 on draw
5. 3-3
6. Layed the draw, 420 on iran and Thai, 9 on draw
7. Traded some, 70 on Draw, 220 on Iran/Thai

All this talk about fix and 3-4 made me nervous, hate it. Obvious choice was 3-3
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:55 PM GMT
I'm hugely suspicious that that was organized from the ground as someone knew exactly when the goals were coming.
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:56 PM GMT
ah, bullcrap
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:56 PM GMT
How do you want to fix a women game, they dont even have a clue what they are doing
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:57 PM GMT
How do you explain the big lumps coming in just before a goal was scored? Coincidence?
Report lurka December 4, 2012 1:57 PM GMT
wasn't following the whole game just from the last goal. But 7k came in at 1.9 on o5.5 about 1 minute before 3-3, so I'd agree CJ
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
There was 10k laying Iran a minute before the Thai 2-1 goal as well.
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
i would say, people just lump on what they think is happening next. same what we do, you know
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
not every movement is a fix
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
as people said, thais were all over them and had chance after chance
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:59 PM GMT
you dont have to be a genius to think they might score 1-2
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 1:59 PM GMT

Dec 4, 2012 -- 1:58PM, CJ70 wrote:


There was 10k laying Iran a minute before the Thai 2-1 goal as well.


lol, so what, i layed them too, obvious choice

Report prele_ December 4, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
they probably tell the players on the pitch via headsets when to score a goal nowadays, lol
Report lurka December 4, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
as Henok said above, why would someone bet an outlandish sum like that without having a huge edge? 7k and 10k are disproportionately large one off sums for a match like this. Wouldn't look out of place in a CL match but not this. The uncanny timing (twice at least) and disproportionate amounts kill any argument against a fix for me
Report prele_ December 4, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
im out, another stupid fix-discussion
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
if this is a fix, it's on Thailand's side because Iran are usually rubbish. so Thailand purposefully play rubbish and then pick it up when they needed to?
Report gawdalmighty December 4, 2012 2:03 PM GMT
Too much paranoia about match fixing
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:04 PM GMT
Yeah it's a certainty. The amount of cash and the timing is not a coincidence. If prele_ reads through the thread he'll see that after each time something unusual happened a goal followed.
Report Biscuit1979 December 4, 2012 2:05 PM GMT
It comes to something when even womens U19 football is fixed Laugh

Two more games tomorrow though, early start 9am.
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:05 PM GMT
CJ70, you've convinced me this was a fix. The optimum spot to bet was when it went 3-1 because you could lay Iran at sub 1.2.. but you would only do that if you were in the know
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
The amount traded on this game, it will probably pay the Thai women's team wages for the year
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
The timings were unusual in that one. Someone knew the exact time a goal was coming, that's not common which makes me think it was something at the ground.
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
Someone giving a signal?
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
No idea. You normally get approximate timings of when an event will happen but I've never seen anything like that.
Report lurka December 4, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
possibly wisewords, 10k was bet against Iran minutes before thailand scored, the other one was a 7k goal bet less than a minute before thailand scored, but it wasn't necessarily a bet on thailand scoring. it is very hard to satisfy the non-believers in the absence of a match-fixing trial but aside from that you literally cannot get better evidence of a fix than what happened here. Uncanny timing at least twice (and possibly more - didn't follow the whole match) with huge money on each occasion.

I don't think laying Iran when ahead is an indicator per se, rather the amount and particularly the timing.

Ask yourself how much do you think the players/managers of Asian women's football teams get paid and how many years salary they could make with eg a 7k goal bet
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
or more a case of Thailand being so superior that they can score when they like almost?
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
wisewords ,usually on a game were is a big favorite like it was thailand today there are big amounts matched ,if it was 0-2 probably it wouldnt be more than 40k matched on it,the need of traders to green up ,goals,etc. made the game to reach that "big amount" like someone said above,too much paranoia about fixed games and refusing to see facts ,not saying that the amount is always split to two and one trader can make many trades,so the real money could be around 50k on this one :D
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
iran was 20 prematch,i saw bigger odds in 75 for a team with 2 goals down
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
Would there have even been a crowd for this match?
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
A small crowd of friends and family I'd guess.
Report Raluca December 4, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
if you want a fix try to remember that georgian game that was two weeks ago ,3-3 was matched at all odds possible from 30 to 11 ,away side was leading in 81 minute and those fookers raised the odds till 1.61 when two bookies had them @ 1.23
that was a fix
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:20 PM GMT
Did you see the Georgian match earlier today? Laugh
Report Biscuit1979 December 4, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
CJ70 04 Dec 12 14:16 
Would there have even been a crowd for this match?





I can't imagine so.

How many Vietnamese people do you think are interested in Iran v Thailand U19 womens game.

Would you even cross the road to watch that game if it was played here?
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:22 PM GMT
If I knew I could bet on a match fix I would Happy
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:24 PM GMT
There's generally a lot of interest in teenage Thai girls Laugh
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:24 PM GMT
Crazy
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:25 PM GMT
As a matter of interest, did anyone here just lay Iran at low odds and let it run and believe 100% in the fix?
Report Biscuit1979 December 4, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
Well i laid Iran at 0-2 but got out when Thailand got 1 back
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:32 PM GMT
If we believed in the fix, we should just lay lay lay and be strong in our conviction. It's easier said than done though
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
It's all a matter of knowing there's a fix, but knowing the outcome is different.
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
The only way we knew that something was going to happen in that game was when the money appeared a minute or so before.
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
What about the price of Iran constantly rising and the continuous big lays of Iran during the 2nd half?
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:35 PM GMT
This was only 'killed' when it went 3-1, but someome was still going with big lays at sub 1.2 prices at 3-1.. he knew?
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
even when the overall market had fallen out of love with the fix and Iran's price was shortening by the second
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
Well the big money was traded right before the goals.
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
I wasn't convinced until that 7k lump came in just before the 3-3
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:37 PM GMT
I was concentrating on Iran's price, and the amount of lays coming in was frightening
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:37 PM GMT
2k chunks every 30 seconds
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:40 PM GMT
Ahh see I didn't see that. That's the problem you have to be really concentrating on one market to see the patterns.
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
I'm pretty sure there was a lot of money on that game that we've just simply missed because we were concentrating on the match odds market.
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
If Raluca wasn't on the o5.5 market we wouldn't have known about the lump thrown at that.
Report wisewords December 4, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
Yeah that's the one I was concentrating on. I didn't monitor the goal markets. I did however see that at 3-1 the price of over 5.5 was over 3
Report lurka December 4, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
that was me who posted about the 7k lump. i posted it once i saw it, ie before the goal. see above. 3-3 posts in the very same minute
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
Oh well. Took a small green off that, that works for me. Now to look at the Israeli second division
Report CJ70 December 4, 2012 2:48 PM GMT
Ah sorry lurka. I knew the name had a 'u' in it ;P
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