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Hope you find a way around this.
Lots of discussion of possibilities when the Germans got das boot. Good luck to you, wherever you end up |
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not only greek muppet. When burned a house next to you, fire will ARRIVE AND IN YOUR OWN.
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i think youre being a bit presumptious in your 20% estimate but i agree it is a great shame
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Oh i didnt know BF was out of Germany already...
ANd how the Germans punters live their lives? How can one make profit by using common bookies???? |
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move to a proper country
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"According to legal advice received, the value of these permits is unclear and we consider the gambling legislation in the country to be inconsistent with European law," Betfair said on Monday.
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only me betting more than 5k on each game . almost 15games this weekend . so in 2 days means 75k. there are many like me that betting big.
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Most Greeks have no money. No money = no betting. Not really a big loss is it.
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yamas
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Probably the only greeks left making money were the pros left on here
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This is just ridiculous taxing 10% a winning bet. And I'm pretty sure the calculation of taxation will include the initial stake of the bet and not only the profit
 WE ARE OFFICIALLY DOOMED. |
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So lets say you bet 100 on evens and win another 100.
Betfair will take 5 on standard commission. Greek Government will claim 10% of the 'winnings'. For them winnings is everything stake+profit So the Greek taxman will get 20. So you are left with 75 winnings. Aka 25% charge |
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The Greeks and paying tax...
The shocking scale of tax dodging in Greece was laid bare yesterday in a report showing that professionals are among the worst offenders. The study found that self-employed Greeks evaded a staggering £22.4billion of tax in 2009 – almost half the size of the country’s deficit in 2008 and a third of the shortfall in 2009. The chief offenders were doctors, engineers, private tutors, accountants, people in financial services and lawyers, according to the report by economists at Booth School of Business at the University of Chicago. It came as Greek ministers held talks with the troika of inspectors from the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund over its emergency aid. |
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One thing Greeks seem very good at is paying not very much in tax to their Exchequer, so if they apply those skills to using betfair they will still be here.
Good luck with your mission. |
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Typed that as Marxist - L did.
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Nice copy pasta. But tax evasion/avoidance is not Greece's main problem.
Greece suffered for many years the worst case of cronyism by political parties hiring voters as public servants. The two main political parties Pasok (Central-Left) and Nea Dimokratia (Central-Right) hired literally 100,000's of voters into the public sector will no qualifications besides being a voter. Are you aware that once one got hired into the public sector they were made for life? No possibility of getting fired. Public servant for life no matter what. Even for convicted criminals they hardly fired anyone, only in the most extreme of cases. So what happened when Greece got into the Eurozone? Free money happened. They could borrow at the same rates as Germany basically. So instead of rationalising and reforming the public sector they kept giving them more money and hiring more voters. Who rational individual making ends meet in the private sector working endless of hours, would want to give half his money back to a system build to feed the cronies of the political parties? Not me. Not anyone with half a brain. So saying that Greeks don't pay taxes is half the story. The whole story is they don't want the government to redistribute their wealth to the cronies of the political parties leeching off of the corrupt Greek public sector. |
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The solution to Greece's problem is firing half the public servants and reforming the economy to make it investor friendly.
This bill is another joke protecting the government monopoly on gamble through its former company OPAP. Which is supposedly being privatise right now, but in reality is filled with partisan cronies who want to keep getting paid without doing nothing, so any sight of free-market would destroy them. |
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agaz i have to say your English is pretty impressive for a Greek bloke. You speak (or write) better English than about 90% of the English people on this forum.
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AGAZ,
http://www.purevpn.com/ we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender The thing about us Brits is we never give up. The likes of Achilles, Ajax, Odysseus et al will be turning in their graves. I am not a geek but there are some on here who could tell you more about the process of getting a VPN. In simple terms I am led to believe that you go through it and log on to Betfair. It will hide your IP address from the Government spys and blockers. Have a loook on the German thread about this same subject. I posted a conversation with a computer geek friend of mine and go have a look at the link at the top of this post. Nil desperandum oh and Carry on Gambling! |
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What is Virtual Private Network?
VPN technology is based on the idea of tunneling that involves establishing and maintaining logical network connection. With this connection, packets constructed in a specific VPN protocol format are encapsulated within some other base or carrier protocol, then transmitted between a VPN client and server, and finally de-encapsulated on the receiving side. No one can tell your real IP address or identify your locality. All the programs installed on your computer will be working automatically via VPN, which is the main difference between VPN and proxy server, requiring software support for proxy connection. |
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Was just thinking you might also need a UK address and Debit Card but I am sure there are plenty os dubious characters on here that would be able to advise on this. Also probably get a UK email address. Anything is possible as Rich Greeks who have avoided paying taxes have proved and plenty of out filth too!
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agaz, if you think accountants, bankers and lawyers work endless hours or are avoiding taxes as some sort of protest against politicians you must be mad. They don't pay any tax because they want to keep all of their money.
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agaz - if you studied at Manchester uni then you must still have contacts here. Can you not visit here for a brief holiday, open a bank account using the address of a friend that lives here then use VPN to access the site once you get back home
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Biscuit I'm not worried about the situation, my contingency plan is already in the works.
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What about me agaz? i know it's easy to connect via vpn but what about the greek banks ,
 shall they permit to withdraw money from bf after 5 dec.? |
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Spend some time over here and open a British bank account.....not like your short of a few quid is it |
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but shall i create a new account at betfair on another person that is from uk or just with this account. btw is it easy to create a bank account in uk?
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I think its easy for EU members.....i could be wrong though mate.
Im sure some one will have better knowledge of this than me. |
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Agaz seems pretty clued up on it
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I think agaz said earlier that his contingency plan was already in place,shirley
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