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Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:34 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:31PM, Vips wrote:


I don't want Betfair to punish the winners.

Report strawhat21 November 22, 2012 11:34 PM GMT
trading_soccer none of those things is going to happen.
Report Vips November 22, 2012 11:35 PM GMT
Anybody watched Shawshank Redemption when he writes to the prison service each week to try and get a library.  I'll be emailng Betfair every day until I get a response and compensation.  They will either respond or ban me from the site.
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:35 PM GMT
Vips • November 22, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
I don't want Betfair to punish the winners.  They should however compensate the losers.


I 100% agree with this. And I haven't even lost a penny on tonight's outage but firmly believe that Betfair should remunerate those who lost out for Betfair's mistake without punishing the winners.
Report desperatemunter November 22, 2012 11:35 PM GMT
jajabinks yes - 11 people couldn't identify their home planet from a picture - it was a disappointing moment
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:35 PM GMT
nothing will happen. they'll apologise for the inconvenience caused. that is all
Report Trading_Soccer November 22, 2012 11:35 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:33PM, Maestro_71 wrote:


yeh they should but they won't and they don't have to. tough cookies really. sleep it off and you'll be back tomorrow guaranteed.


Yep..they should, they'll try and I wont be letting this go........

Report Trading_Soccer November 22, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
lol...and I will be back tomorrow Excited
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
Probably wisewords, but that's not a good enough customer service. These kind of errors happen too often and it's always the customer who loses out.
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
Darlo.. how do you decide who to refund? Do you refund the Liverpool backers?? Why? We couldn't see into the future.. Liverpool could have won 3-1...
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
if that had happened, who do we refund?
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:37 PM GMT
Nobody gets refunded for inplay issues. When the data feeds went down last month and I coudn't trade out, they didn't refund me. How is this situation any different?
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:38 PM GMT
That's a fair point but the whole point of Betfair is that people can trade - jeez, they've gone way over the top with the Cash Out function - and that ability was not available. Not because of the customers' fault but Betfair's.
Report ;[p November 22, 2012 11:38 PM GMT
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When the stock exchange goes down they follow complex rules to ensure people do not benefit. When world events happen, trading gets banned. When a company stock is trading weirdly it is suspended and all previous transactions are reviewed.

Betfair is no where near FTSE or NYSE and I do not expect them to be....




in my understanding her in this situation there was nobody who get any benefit of that situation, marked wasnt available for both parties , people who won would won same amout of money anyways


but i agree about standards towards costumers , bigger problem is betfair is dominating this market so much that is almost like monopolist so dont care about standards  people wont go away and stop trading gambling either
Report map November 22, 2012 11:38 PM GMT
hi lads
Report Trading_Soccer November 22, 2012 11:38 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:37PM, wisewords wrote:


Nobody gets refunded for inplay issues. When the data feeds went down last month and I coudn't trade out, they didn't refund me. How is this situation any different?


Thats because you let them.

Report map November 22, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
we dont have much choice..betfair t&cs cover every thing possible
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
No. I emailed them over 15 times and they would not refund me anything. I was asking for my stake back and they would not budge one bit.
Report map November 22, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
and they didnt let people place bets so there were errornous prices..but u couldnt back or lay so noone gains an advantage?
Report Trading_Soccer November 22, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
yep...and Barclays thought that about their PPI Insurance...boy, did they get it wrong
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
They take no responsibility for money lost due to not being able to lay off your bet.
Report Mully November 22, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
General point to  the eternal optimists reading this thread....You'll have to wait until hell freezes over for any deluded refund claims you think you may have. When the site came back up for 5 mins earlier all markets had been settled as they stood.
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:40 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:39PM, wisewords wrote:


No. I emailed them over 15 times and they would not refund me anything. I was asking for my stake back and they would not budge one bit.


I've given up expecting any customer goodwill service from them.

Report map November 22, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
wouldnt waste my time emailing tbh
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:41 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:40PM, Mully wrote:


General point to

Report kellydamo November 22, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
They have maintenance planned for next week, seems a bit strange it goes down tonight before the maintenance
Report map November 22, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
hang on
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
I think it's totally crappy that you lost money because you couldn't trade out. But we're risking our money everytime we bet inplay on here. I think it's important everyone realises that.
Report map November 22, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
the iphone apps working?
Report strawhat21 November 22, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
nope map
Report map November 22, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
strawhat it log in
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
You won't be able to bet I'm guessing map. Everything is down
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
My markets are still suspended though by unmatched bets have been cancelled.
Report map November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
i can see tomorrows games and all pre match ..but the 2 IP games are suspended
Report map November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
so cant even bet pre?
Report Biscuit1979 November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
to be fair this is actually quite minor.

I've known the entire site go down from 2-5pm on a saturday before. That was not a good day to be a betfair customer service employee.
Report agaz November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Report map November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
lol
Report agaz November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
CATOLICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Report agaz November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
wow. i wanted to lay that too. well done agaz
Report strawhat21 November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
"unable to connect to server" that's it says to me
Report agaz November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
OLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
Sao Paulo backers are now seething.
Report Biscuit1979 November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
map 22 Nov 12 23:43 
so cant even bet pre?




no nothing, i was trying to get on Cerro Porteno pre KO, and nothing was happening.
Report kellydamo November 22, 2012 11:43 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:39PM, map wrote:


and they didnt let people place bets so there were errornous prices..but u couldnt back or lay so noone gains an advantage?


Of course someone gains an advantage, those in a winning position have gained a 20 minute advantage

Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
Then main consequence is that a small minority of punters will stop using betfair for a while, especially ones who got burnt badly by this
Report map November 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
well im down
Report map November 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
-500
Report map November 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
Cry
Report kellydamo November 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
I am well down
Report map November 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
cant do anything about it tho
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
I've not been burnt by this tonight but it's going to reduce by potential days on Betfair.
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
Most big punters will have used sites such as Bet365 to cover their bets when the site went down though.
Report map November 22, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
but nice present from me to me from betfair..my birthday tomorrow and -500 night b4
Report map November 22, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
most people unless mugs cant get on at firms
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
Me neither Darlo. Infact it saved me £5. I had £100 profit on draw/Dnipro, and £25 profit on PSV. I would have greened out totally by backing PSV as high odds but I wasn't able to
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:46 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:45PM, map wrote:


but nice present from me to me from betfair..my birthday tomorrow and -500 night b4


That was my trick. Had a great month just before my birthday. A f**king great month. Until a week before. And went totally mental.

Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:46 PM GMT
hey map, i had an absolute nightmare last night on basketball
Report map November 22, 2012 11:46 PM GMT
oh
Report map November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
i fell asleep mate..went to lie down for a bit and boom
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
i was making small trades to make a little profit
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
did this successfully on the clippers game and the spurs game
Report strawhat21 November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
how much is a small profit for u?
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
was in the middle of doing it on the NY Knicks, but wasn't watching it (schoolboy error)
Report map November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
told u gotta watch man
Report Biscuit1979 November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
Have you won your money back yet wisewords, you seemed almost suicidal this time last night
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
I backed Knicks at 1.5 with £100
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
Redskins match back inplay. Football isn't.
Report map November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
i dont bother trying to do more than 1 game at a time
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
then again at 1.6 with £100
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
then the price COLLAPSED
Report strawhat21 November 22, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
i managed to make some good trading on lakers...
Report map November 22, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
surely thats good if it collapses and you got 8/13 1/2?
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
i watched the game and they got so close to pulling it back. i think i could have traded out for a small loss right at the end
Report map November 22, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
lay it off shorter
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
the price shot up sorry, so like 2.5, 3, 4, 5 etc
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
did you see the game? knicks pulled back a 12 point deficit to 1 point right at the end :(
Report map November 22, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
na i fell asleep dude
Report map November 22, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
so the nfl u can bet on Darlo?
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
and they were on the attack, but the guy messed it up, and that gave dallas 2 free throws
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
basically, i did my bollocks in on the knicks :'(
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
Yes map.
Report map November 22, 2012 11:51 PM GMT
:(
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:52 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:47PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


Have you won your money back yet wisewords, you seemed almost suicidal this time last night


haha suicidal! i'm alright, i won back £100 on dnipro. i was very annoyed last night though

Report map November 22, 2012 11:52 PM GMT
so the nba might be IP
Report map November 22, 2012 11:53 PM GMT
il be back in a bit anyway..off to the gym
Report wisewords November 22, 2012 11:53 PM GMT
it seems the site is back up now?
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:53 PM GMT
Football back in-play.
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:53 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2012 -- 11:52PM, map wrote:


so the nba might be IP


No NBA tonight.

Report map November 22, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
yea it is betfair.com woring here now
Report map November 22, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
oh ..i just assumed han't even checked
Report map November 22, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
hmm
Report Darlo Bantam November 22, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
Thanksgiving.
Report map November 22, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
3 late gams anyway
Report map November 22, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
il be back for one or more of them i hope
Report big balls November 23, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
all get your money back ......lay chelsea weekend lol
Report map November 23, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
what price
Report strawhat21 November 23, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
i dont understand why the hell they signed benitez
Report strawhat21 November 23, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
most overrated coach of all time
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