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jamov
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here we go Devil

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8271382/Referee-Mark-Clattenburg-wants-full-apology-and-compensation-from-Chelsea
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Report donny osmond November 22, 2012 6:14 PM GMT
all stems from that incorrect sending off

sure clattenberg acted in good faith too .... Mischief
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
25 pts    Relegation.?  They are gonna cop it
  The only good thing Chelsea will get out of this is the utterly useless mikel  will be finished and will be unlikely to play for them again when it all comes out and expect  roman to sue him for breach of contract he's done it before and will again
Back on the poor bus for mikel.
Crouch must be laughing his head off
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:17 PM GMT
only if he reads your latest "contribution!Laugh
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
What bout mikel getting three months bird mex he did threaten to break his legs and it took half the squad to hold him back   Clatts was apparently really shook up
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:27 PM GMT
ffs stop it.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

i'll die of laughterLaugh
Report MARILYNMANSON November 22, 2012 6:29 PM GMT
A certain person is suing people for false allegations, maybe they should all claim........done in good faith?
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:30 PM GMT
F a have charged him police next he did kick the door down  as well roman could be after criminal damage charge
It was also the last nail in bobbys coffin so he might sue mikel as well lol
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:30 PM GMT
so have i got this correct, just to sum up


mikel to be charged
no case to answer regards racism
clattenberg totally cleared
everyone thinks its a disgrace (except chelsea fans)
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
did these people go through "the correct channels"? and did the "correct channels" find that they made the allegations !in good faith"?
Report lfc1971 November 22, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
well done in being wrong in your summing up
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
everyone thinks it's a disgrace?

are you advocating that if people think they've been racially abused they shouldn't report it?
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
the kicking down of the door and the stress it would have caused was a sickening act...he would never have dreamt it was a player, it was a controversial game, he would have had every reason to believe he was under attack by an irate fan/fans
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
rearrange

straws at clutching.
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
so mexicano a random bloke goes to the cops

''excuse me officer i think i may have been racially abused but im not sure...i heard nothing but my non english speaking mate thinks he might have heard something''

''look son feck off and stop wasting police time''
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
Also as I posted at the time one player had said that before he went nuts  some of the team were on mikel s back for his performance  and  not one member of the team wanted to stand up for him afterwards
He's a very threatening guy even JT is careful of winding him    allegedly
Report yer ma November 22, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
Did I miss the bit where Chelsea case was Clatts might have said something off, would you mind checking with the other official and TV to see if it was a mistake?  If not, this is backtracking baloney of epic proportions.
Report lfc1971 November 22, 2012 6:36 PM GMT
Black lawyers very quiet,have been brought onside and had it explained to them(very slowly)that if they persist it will not be in chelsea players interest.FA have made this clear behind closed doors..not in public
Report asparagus November 22, 2012 6:36 PM GMT
I find it remarkable that anyone including Chelsea fans can defend their clubs actions. It was always a 1000/1 shot that Clattenburg was guilty and to go ahead and make the allegations was totally moronic. Chelsea's top officials really need to take a good look at themselves for being so stupid. Clattenburg's career will always be tainted when he has done nothing wrong. He should take them to the cleaners.
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
what should they have done?

they passed on what they had in good faith [fa report]

they had it investigated by outside lawyers.

are you advocating that they should have hushed it up?
Report ALLWEATHERKING November 22, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
more humiliation for chelski

avvin a bad time of it arent they.

luvit

Laugh
Report A.H HUNTER esq. November 22, 2012 6:39 PM GMT
Chelsea behaved entirely properly (FA statement) do you not understand English ,now if Mikel is found to have acted wrongly ,he may be disciplined as an individual .
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:40 PM GMT
mexicano why do you keep quoting that fa statement as a form of defence of your player yet you ridiculed the fa's john terry statement..double standards??
Report ALLWEATHERKING November 22, 2012 6:41 PM GMT
Chelsea behaved entirely properly

a bunch of words that somehow don't sit together comfortably
Report A.H HUNTER esq. November 22, 2012 6:41 PM GMT
Take it up with the FA then !!
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
i didn't their statement.

i disagreed with them going above the law of the land.

does the fa saying that the allegations were made in good faith not sit comfortably with your point of view?
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
again was that your john terry attitude? fa were right take it up with them? nope thought not
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
good faith and chelsea should NEVER be seen in the same sentence...
Report ALLWEATHERKING November 22, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
Chelsea behaved entirely properly

Laugh
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
i took the view that having been found not guilty that should have been that.
Report yer ma November 22, 2012 6:44 PM GMT
Mex - what exactly are you saying they presented?  The Chief exec appeared to rule out 'mis-hearing' in an interview.  Hence, if the player(s) said they definitely heard something offense why on earth no Chelsea statement saying they are disappointed with the outcome?  Do they have SO little belief in their own players.
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:44 PM GMT
That's mikel s second racism accusation 
He tried to get crouch done for racism for daring to say foreign players were better at diving than Brits ffs.
INot a clever guy mr mikel he should also have been done for bunging over the utd  caper and  didn't one of his friends once say he had lied about his real age to seem like a promising young player and he was in fact  at least five years older than he claimed. That's maybe why he seems so slow now  cause he's  about 40
Another criminal charge maybe lying bout your date of birth for a work permit
Another six months bird mex?
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:44 PM GMT
clattenberg has been found not guilty, mikel has a case to answer for excessive threatening behaviour
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
and chelsea have been found to have acted in good faith and properly.
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
lol you just cling to that one sentence and tell yourself everythings rosy in the chelsea garden
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:48 PM GMT
How did Suarez score against Chelsea. When they are so good at defending  against racists.     Joke joke I also believe he was hard done by
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:49 PM GMT
who's saying that?

i'm just pointing out what the fa have said about the clubs conduct in this affair, in reply to all the idiots who are talking about all sorts of action being taken against the club.
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
oh sorry so clattenberg isnt suing and mikel isnt being charged? i stand corrected
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:52 PM GMT
you must try and keep up mate.

wher did i say mikel isn't being charged.

and i think you'll find that clattenberg is "consiering" legal action.

long way from instituting proceedings,
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
Chelsea are getting sued by the refs. Union for starters
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 6:54 PM GMT
no they're not
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:54 PM GMT
Mikel has been charged by the FA
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 6:54 PM GMT
They are mex  fact
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:55 PM GMT
good luck to chelsea with getting any borderline decisions in their favour anytime soon Cool
Report lorient November 22, 2012 6:56 PM GMT
If Clattenburg had been found guilty he would have had a life ban from refereeing certainly at top level. Jon Obi Mikel should be banned for life for deliberately trying to end a referee's career. If he was sued for libel he could face a hefty payout as well.
Report yer ma November 22, 2012 6:56 PM GMT
At the end of the day everyone except some at Chelsea know the only action sensible to take here was (at most) the manager or senior exec going in private to Clatts & referees & FA official - this boys upset says you said something....I didnt, we didnt hear that...thanks, good night.
Report buddeliea November 22, 2012 6:57 PM GMT
refs union demanding apology and compensation from CFC.

Doubt they have the class to say sorry from what ive seen of them lately,but money dont matter to them,so compensation is a real possibility.
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:57 PM GMT
human nature mex human nature
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 6:59 PM GMT
has john terry still got a standing order at the bank for his compo pay outs?
Report ALLWEATHERKING November 22, 2012 7:01 PM GMT
keep up mexy lad.
Report morpteh mackem November 22, 2012 7:01 PM GMT
would chelsea fans view be different if it wasn't their club involved ?
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:03 PM GMT
More proof if needed how utterly fukked this stupid game has become

If Chelsea aren't totally hammered for this the game should die

They chose to throw their weight behind this frivolous repulsive accusation despite there being no case to answer

The player concerned should be given a massive ban and fine and sanctions against Chelsea should be damning

There is no way anyone who can talk / walk and read could make a racist case against Clattenburg so it was born out of something else , whatever it waas was calculated and with malice

I actually hate the game nowadays for what it has become even though I still take an interest in the results etc and of course betting opportunities but it is a fukkin disgrace and represents everything that could be rancid and bad in a "sport"
Report ALLWEATHERKING November 22, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
EWWW:  spot on mate.
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
if it wasn't their club involved?

i would expect any organisation were an employee made an allegation of racial abuse to proceed through the "proper channels". if they then went further and spaent time, and a fair bit of money to try and acertain the facts, and then proceed on the advice of the independant legal team, i would probably say they'd acted in good faith.
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:05 PM GMT
it seems that edward is at odds with the fa here.
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
As for this mexican fella , I have to admit I have not read this thred in it's entirity but he must be Abramovic's lost love child the way that tool has been preaching about the virtues of Chelsea

They are a club I really liked and used to love going to the Bridge in the 90's & 80's but they are now a fukking joke of a club and even my pals who are staunch blue bloods are disgusted by what they have become

Racist players / a manger per week and now accusing refs of racism with ZERO evidence

THROW THE FUKKIN BOOK AT THIS FILTH OF AN OUTFIT
Report buddeliea November 22, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
totally agree
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:08 PM GMT
and a skipper with a list of shame that would fill this page...
Report buddeliea November 22, 2012 7:09 PM GMT
with both posts edward.

pmsl at chelsea fans trying to defend the club.
embarrassing!!
Report ALLWEATHERKING November 22, 2012 7:09 PM GMT
EWWWW:  Laugh

correct.  all true chelsea fans deserted the club a long time ago.  todays so called fans are mostly a bunch of  nerdy 'followers' who latched on to the mourinho hype.
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:10 PM GMT
it must really stick in you little mobs throats that in spite of all the bile being spouted by you that chelsea have been found to have acted in good faith.

not fair is it?
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:10 PM GMT
MEX

You are a bell end mate

Proper channels my hairy arse

If one of my employees made an accusation as SERIOUS as that especially in the light of Chelseas recent history I would first take the time to get to the bottom of " what actually happened" ffs

Never would I blindly back a person who had just come off a feild in a abd mood after losing a game where the ref had a nightmare

You should give up defending this shower you nutter, they are guilty of being as bad as anyone for throwing their weight behind the idiot player without checking first if anything actually happened

THROW THE BOOK AT THIS VILE CLUB

Gnight
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:12 PM GMT
Mex

You are on an island on your own here moppet

If you cant see the wrong that has happened you must need help getting dressed you dribbling fool

"Proper" channels LaughLaughLaughLaugh the fact that Chelsea released that **** statement says more about them than anything believing they were right to back a player despite there being no case to answer

You mug
Report buddeliea November 22, 2012 7:12 PM GMT
bell end
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Mister E November 22, 2012 7:13 PM GMT
Try and leave club bias out of this.

An employer receives a complaint from an employee that he has been racially abused.

Should they tell him "You are on your own with that" or ask the regulatory body to investigate the matter?
Report buddeliea November 22, 2012 7:13 PM GMT
dribbling fool
LaughLaughLaughLaugh

cracking up here
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:13 PM GMT
off subject this regime hes slavishly arselicking, is the same regime that treat their employees like sh!t....win the champions league and get sacked, only at chelsea ffs
Report ALLWEATHERKING November 22, 2012 7:15 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaugh

me too budd

dribbling fool
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:16 PM GMT
as per ed you're letting your prejudices get in the way.

they had it investigated independently [at great cost] before the made any official complaint.

i know it irks you little mob that have been telling anybody who's been prepared to listen that, everyone was going to throw the book at chelsea.

but keep spouting your prejudiced bile if it makes you feel better.

but remember this.

the fa said chelsea acted properly, and in good faith.

and i know the more you think about that.

the madder you'll get.

life aint fair is it?
Report berto77 November 22, 2012 7:16 PM GMT
4 point plan as follows:

1.  Punish anyone who charged into the refs room.

2.  Ensure Clattenburg isn't out of pocket after effectively being suspended for three weeks.

3.  Chelsea (and every other club) learn lessons that they shouldn't rush into making serious allegations an hour after the game before establishing all the facts.

4.  Everyone move on.
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
again why do you keep quoting the fa as your defence, but in the john terry case you slated the statement made by the fa...cherry picking? head in sand?
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
I have never had any problem with Chelea before this ever

BUT

As I said if one of MY employees says he has been racially abused I would first try to establish the facts BEFORE I go to the authorities and certainly wouldnt blindly back the man literally minutes after the so called event

An accusation where he could not even recall what time in them match it happened

An accusation where there was no footage during the game to show ANY grievence toward the ref, not even a "look"

An accusation where players closer to the ref than the one in question didn't hear anything

An accusation where 11 witness statements fail to even produce a case to answer

If you think that is following the "proper" channels then you my friend are deluded and simply blindly backing your club as if it were your only child

I fully understand and applaud club loyalty in some cases but in this it is dreadful

CHELSEA ARE AT FAULT HERE  even if they are not totally to blame and to suggest in some sick way they are some bastion of what is right and correct is fukkin sick
Report VieirasaGooner November 22, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
This situation has been embarrassing for Chelsea imo, heads will roll, time too sack Rafa
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
i don't need a defence mate. cos i've done ferk all wrong.

i'm quoting the fa because they're the regulatory body.

what are you little mob quoting to back up your various prejudices?
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
is it true rafas been sacked already?
Report moisok November 22, 2012 7:20 PM GMT
I love it how they use these racism claims. Mikel carries on - clutterbuck suspended for umpteen games.  Spoilt bad loser carried on playing, with the rest of the bad losers - justice - don't make me weep.
Talk about playing the race card.
Will they also be charged with threatening the referee (if that is what happened)
I want to see some balance here.
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:21 PM GMT
Your use of the word "mob" suggests everyone is ganging up on you or Chelsea

It is your ignorance in refusiong to see what is right and what is just rhetoric and words
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:21 PM GMT
again why didnt you take the fa at face value over john terry, i recall you were kicking and screaming and in meltdown with them over that
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:22 PM GMT
see once again edward puts up a false premise  to knock it down in order to give his argument false credibility.

where did i say they're a bastion of what is right?

calm down and consider two things.

they got in an outside firm in order to distance themselves from any bias.

the fa found they acted properly.

but just keep spouting your prejudices.
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:24 PM GMT
still cant answer my question? why the double standards?
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:24 PM GMT
anyway i'm off to watch the football now.

i'll leave you little mob to carry on with your prejudicial seething.
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:26 PM GMT
I'm done

There is a saying "you can't educate Pork" and that applies here.

I hope Chelsea get fukkin hammered over this disgusting accusation

A racist capt and now a club falsely accusing an innocent man of the same thing out of malice / stupidity or any combination of the two

Football should rightly hate what they have become and any apologist for them ( you )
Report buddeliea November 22, 2012 7:27 PM GMT
really should have investigated this fully before taking it further,basic stuff in any complaint.
Trouble is in this case it involved a football club that recently has stooped lower and lower,and it seems is run by people that just dont care and think they can behave as they want.
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:28 PM GMT
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You can join ROy on the too dumb to exchange with list LaughLaughLaugh what a clueless mug
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:33 PM GMT
lol prejudice? it must run through that club of yours, talk about paranoid Laugh
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:36 PM GMT
oh dear woe is meSad

i will not be able to have any informed debate with the prejudicial edward.

head in the sand?

or is it put your fingers in your ears and go "na na na na na"?
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 7:37 PM GMT
erm dont think he can see u mate Wink
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:38 PM GMT
wasn't for his consumption.
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:45 PM GMT
I thought she was going to watch footie LaughLaughLaugh

No doubt i am getting some clog but I am not Dr Doolittle so cant talk to dumb animals Wink
Report mexicano November 22, 2012 7:48 PM GMT
not much debate [and any that was was rather ill informed].

but lots of abuse.

and he blocked meLaugh

i picture him as a child , fingers in his ears and singingLaugh

pathetic.
Report EdwardWoowardWould November 22, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
"Que"Go and watch football you soppy git or re runs of Love Thy Neighbour , that should be right up your strasa
Report funkymonkey November 22, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
Benitez will be sweating over this news. He will be thinking someone is gonna have their hand in his compensation fund pie.
Report jermaine defonebox November 22, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
Are you lot aware that mr mikel apparently went berserk after the west brim game yet again   Like I said only JT attempts to stand up to him he's one angry guy.   Allegedly
Report Busvaldo November 22, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
Clattenburg Soccer: £293.33 Total P&L:  £293.33

Laugh
Report yorkie1 November 22, 2012 8:28 PM GMT
chelsea make me fookin sick - they want a proper arse*olin for this.

Have just read the b*llshit statement from the FA and nothing will be happening as a consequence of these false allegations - they should be throwing the fookin lot as these b*stards for trying to wreck a good refs career.

Allegations made in "good faith" my ar*e - get some fookin b*llox FA and deal with this tw*ts.
Report flushgordon1 November 22, 2012 8:59 PM GMT
should be given chelskis next big game and send six of the coonts off and award 8 penalties for opposing team.
Report sweetchildofmine November 22, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
as i said earlier i doubt chelsea will get the benefit of the doubt in any game for some time to come
Report moisok November 22, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
It is so much about making lots of noise to cover up other shortcomings!!!  They did, and got away with it for a while.  Still managed to hurl loads of rubbish at a ref and threaten him in his dressing room.  I await justice.  I may be waiting a long time.
Report Mister E November 23, 2012 10:49 AM GMT
I would first try to establish the facts BEFORE I go to the authorities and certainly wouldnt blindly back the man literally minutes after the so called event


The FA asked Chelsea on Monday if they want it investigated, it took them till Wednesday to say YES.
In the interim juan mata decided to drop his claim.Mikel presumably wanted to press on.
48 hours is not literally minutes. If they were "blindly" backing their players I am sure Mata would have persevered.

Since Chelsea could not interview the four officials or examine all TV footage, how could they "establish the facts"?

That is the FAs job. They have done this, and made their ruling.
Mikel now faces the consequences for his behaviour in the official's room.
Report donny osmond November 23, 2012 10:54 AM GMT
as i said earlier i doubt chelsea will get the benefit of the doubt in any game for some time to come



are you saying refs cheat, or would bear a grudge ???
Report Sergei_Rebrofl November 23, 2012 11:52 AM GMT
From the Official FA statement on the matter:

"The FA is satisfied that the allegation against Mark Clattenburg by Ramires was made in good faith. It is entirely possible for a witness to be genuinely mistaken and convincing in his belief.

In this case, the player and club were correct in reporting the matter to The FA and it was appropriate and proper for such an allegation to be thoroughly investigated."

http://www.thefa.com/News/governance/2012/nov/statement-mark-clattenburg.aspx
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