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By:
Steveirll
When: 11 Nov 12 19:03
The Great Daylami • November 11, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
James McClean has no problem with working in Britain or British People. He just doesnt wish to support a British Army which has been responsible for years of hurt & misery in the City he grew up in.   

Why can some not grasp that?


well said, a few people should look up Bloody Sunday on here....ignoramious a lot of brits on here.
By:
Mister E
When: 11 Nov 12 19:06
50,000 Irishmen were killed in the 1914-18 war.
Forgotten heroes, wear a poppy for them, if not for the others.
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 11 Nov 12 19:07
The lad ain't happy wearing a poppy but is happy to take home a handsome wage of the same very people who that poppy represents. Yeah nice one mate, some moral high ground you have taken there fella...real clever.
By:
Solano1
When: 11 Nov 12 19:29
HEAR HEAR.
By:
hippie
When: 11 Nov 12 19:33
He hasn't taken the moral high ground, he's exercised his choice not to wear the symbol of what he perceives to be an army of occupation.
By:
mightymoyes
When: 11 Nov 12 19:34
dont be ridiculous. would an english person who lost someone to the IRA were a symbol commemorating dead IRA members?
By:
hippie
When: 11 Nov 12 19:42
is that to me moyes?
By:
Irish_Celtic
When: 11 Nov 12 19:43
Its time to let the thread die out of respect for young James. No suprise the main contributors are Flushgordon, Ukmallia,and Shudcuda 3 well known unionist trolls who hate anything Irish.Still they have had a tough week ...everytime  they turn on the tv,computer,or pick up a paper its plastered in pictures of Celtic and Neil Lennon ( yes he really must stay lads ) Oh the Pain
By:
mightymoyes
When: 11 Nov 12 19:44
no hippie, was writing when you posted.
By:
hippie
When: 11 Nov 12 19:46
that's what I thought but wasn't sure because we used similar language.

spooky Laugh
By:
cardifffc
When: 11 Nov 12 23:05
didnt the IRA collaborate with the nazis during ww2 and de valira sent his condolenses when hitler died....sums up the irish republicans
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 11 Nov 12 23:57
The facts are if it were not for these people who gave their lives to stop the advances of the Germans in world war 1 and world war 2, be it troops from Britain or troops from Russia or the USA and many other nations who gave their all, we the people of the UK and the people of Ireland and most of the free world would most likely not be here today, that is what it comes down too. Show some respect for christ sake.

...

You need to listen to this, listen to the lyrics and THINK chaps.
...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7MwXniOD44
By:
chomper
When: 12 Nov 12 00:09
Well said Ukmallia

To think of a christmas ceasefire for a footy match in no mans land.

Sends shivers down the spine.
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 12 Nov 12 00:20
True Chomper, listening to that song and the lyrics bring it home a little more I think, great tune, listen to it every year around this time.
By:
chomper
When: 12 Nov 12 00:32
Never realised how poignant the lyrics were, top track.

Will force people to listen to it from now on.

Coming to a jukebox near you Birmingham
By:
sofaking
When: 12 Nov 12 00:40

Nov 11, 2012 -- 11:57PM, Ukmalllia wrote:


The facts are if it were not for these people who gave their lives to stop the advances of the Germans in world war 1 and world war 2, be it troops from Britain or troops from Russia or the USA and many other nations who gave their all, we the people of the UK and the people of Ireland and most of the free world would most likely not be here today, that is what it comes down too. Show some respect for christ sake....You need to listen to this, listen to the lyrics and THINK chaps....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7MwXniOD44


Everton 1995 FA Cup song.

By:
Ukmalllia
When: 12 Nov 12 00:43
SK Everton had a "special" version done for them 5 years after the original was released... ! Mischief

26 November 1990 (original)
May 1995 (Everton release)
31 May 2004 (Euro 2004 version)
By:
sofaking
When: 12 Nov 12 00:44

Nov 12, 2012 -- 12:43AM, Ukmalllia wrote:


SK Everton had a "special" version done for them 5 years after the original was released... ! 26 November 1990 (original)May 1995 (Everton release)31 May 2004 (Euro 2004 version)


I know. Silly

By:
sofaking
When: 12 Nov 12 00:46
Can't believe that was 17 years ago. I was just a boy. How time flies. Cry
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 12 Nov 12 00:46
Laugh

Nightfishing are we SK ! Laugh
By:
goldenboy89
When: 12 Nov 12 01:02
3,374 views & 139 posts, Some 'Non Story' this is... He knew it would be contraversial not to wear one maybe he done it for publicity after all who the hell even is James Mclean
By:
goldenboy89
When: 12 Nov 12 01:02
A 1 season wonder
By:
goldenboy89
When: 12 Nov 12 01:02
A 1 season wonder
By:
sofaking
When: 12 Nov 12 01:10
If you've been to McLean's home town (Derry) you might understand his stance.

Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbMln5JXXsQ
By:
sofaking
When: 12 Nov 12 01:25

Nov 12, 2012 -- 12:46AM, Ukmalllia wrote:


Nightfishing are we SK !


Not fishing at all, Ukm. Silly

By:
Gerald the Show Pony
When: 12 Nov 12 09:32
The British Legion have McClean to thank for a donation I have just made (that I probably would not have done had this 'story' not been publicised).

On another note although McClean will now be under the spotlight for other reasons his lack of natural football talent will mean is future in the Premiership, I predict will be be short lived.
By:
mrtopnotch
When: 12 Nov 12 09:56
I abhor the "Poppy Nazism" that it has become, I choose to commenorate the dead of WW1 and WW2 with a few moments of silence, a glass of wine in the evening to their memory.
I do not wear a poppy, these people died for freedom of choice and democracy, no one should be forced to wear it.
By:
Si-K
When: 12 Nov 12 16:31
bloody disgrace i tell yeh. them irish folk stealing our jobs and humiliating us on home soil
By:
Alias
When: 12 Nov 12 23:12
"Poppy Nazism" FFS.

You have the choice, wear it or don't. If NAZISM had won, the choice wouldn't exist. No choice would.

For an earlier poster, the poppy isn't any kind of British Army emblem, more the emblem of all unfortunates lost in wars, combatants or not. In WW2,six million jews, millions of other innocents. At least that how I see it.
By:
Alias
When: 12 Nov 12 23:13
*that's
By:
okeydokey
When: 13 Nov 12 08:12
I've stopped eating bacon, those vikings were right b@stards !!
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Nov 12 11:48
sunderland still dont eat sugar puffs after the honeymonster made an appearance in an advert with keegan
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 13 Nov 12 12:30
LaughLaughLaugh donny
By:
nineteen points
When: 13 Nov 12 18:05
too be fair donny they dont eat nowt but cheesy chip
By:
Stringer
When: 13 Nov 12 18:34
It's his choice to wear the poppy or not

WW2 was fought to defend freedom, so people like James can make that choice

People who are chastising him for not wearing the poppy are completely in the wrong here.
By:
Regular Fries
When: 13 Nov 12 19:02
yep, I agree with Stringer here, don't really see the BIG issue.
By:
lurka
When: 13 Nov 12 19:25
are you saying he doesn't have a choice? of course he does and it should be respected.

I doubt a lot of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Argentina wear them either - not rocket science.

maybe his ancestors fought in the British Army during WWI or II, that was a different time and there was a common enemy. Ireland is a constitutionally neutral country and cannot take sides in wars. If it could they would have fought in the name of Ireland.

far more likely that someone a lot closer to him or his friends back home in Derry was massacred in Bloody Sunday 40 years ago. The British Army is seen as evil where he comes from and will be for many years to come. Do you not understand that?
By:
thecookiemonster
When: 13 Nov 12 19:48
everything is dramatic these days, he didnt wear a poppy.. who cares!!!!!
By:
OilyWragg
When: 13 Nov 12 20:11
An Irish Government TD has said he wore a poppy to the Dail to show that remembering the Irish war dead is no longer off limits.
Frank Feighan, who called last week for a joint British-Irish approach to commemorating the First World War, is the first TD to make the gesture for 16 years.

"We have well and truly moved on from that dark, bloody era in the North before the evolution of the peace process - a time when the politics of fear and divisiveness tore apart communities living side by side," he said.

"Thankfully, the peace dividend has delivered a new politics which has allowed us to publicly respect all traditions on this island.

"This politics of inclusiveness has also allowed us to publicly revisit some aspects of our past which up to recently were off limits. That includes the countless Irish men who fought and died in the Great Wars."

Mr Feighan, chair of the British-Irish Parliamentary Assembly, is the first TD to wear a poppy to the Dail since 1996 when Labour's Emmet Stagg, and Fine Gael TDs Paddy Harte and Brian Hayes set the example.

He said he wore the poppy as a symbolic gesture to remember the war dead and to illustrate how the politics of engagement and not war is the only way forward in solving seemingly intractable conflicts.

About 50,000 Irish men who enlisted for the First World War died.

The Irish Government this year pardoned about 5,000 soldiers branded deserters and blacklisted for fighting for the Allies against Nazi Germany in the Second World War.

Mr Feighan said: "For me, wearing the poppy in the Dail is a symbolic gesture to not only recognise the Irish men who fought in the Great Wars but to illustrate how the politics of engagement and not war is the only way forward in solving seemingly intractable conflicts."



Unfortunately James McLean is a Republican who refuses to let go and refuses to move on. These Republicans do not wear the poppy because they do not want to be associated with the Unionists who have always worn the poppy. Its time to move on James.
By:
ALLWEATHERKING
When: 13 Nov 12 20:14
morons have no shame.
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