Will Everton continue to cheat their fans when sky cameras are away?

RSC, Dzeko, CT, MB, KA 5 in the 20 to 40 bracket vs just 2 for us Wellbeck (free), Javier (7m), RVP and Roo. David vs Goliath, and until the last few minutes last season, David won.

So what you're saying is it was ok when you were the big boys spending 25-30m on Veron, Rio, Berbatov, Rooney etc but now someone else is spending more it's not fair.

You bought a 25m striker last week and are paying him almost 200k a week. You'd have bought a 25-30m midfielder too if PSG hadn't outbid you. But i guess that would've been ok.

All within reason on a fair financial scale.

United spend 17m on a keeper vs City's 1.5m for Hart

unfair imho

Lougborough Uni is it aaronh You'd probably not even make their debate team with such ill reasoned ramblings.

Difference between United and City's spending is that United earnt their money over a massive amount of years, no random takeover and sugar daddying.... City got given a gift and spent hugely. Success is success, but it's a bit hollow when you have to spend 400m+ to do so.

that makes the two of us then RMB

Aug 22, 2012 -- 12:51AM, TheKingOfKong wrote:

Difference between United and City's spending is that United earnt their money over a massive amount of years, no random takeover and sugar daddying.... City got given a gift and spent hugely. Success is success, but it's a bit hollow when you have to spend 400m+ to do so.

Exactly. I don't like it, FIFA don't like it, no one likes it. Real City fans I am good friends with, hell, they don't like it. The ABUs needless to say, LOVE IT.

biscuit1979 you've already admitted you're an ABU today. So really you should stay out of these discussions since you've proven yourself totally incapable of having a fair and balanced debate with the rest of us on these topics.

you've proven yourself totally incapable of having a [i]fair and balanced debate with the rest of us on these topics.[/i]

United remind you of liverpool a few years ago? jesus christ i have heard it all now. Every year united get slated, yet come end of season we always finish no lower than 3rd for how many years. One game and we are liverpool ha, some people really do not have a clue about football.

I think Biscuit and arronh are the same or in an ABU competition.

When United gel they'll all look a bit silly.

RMB - will you be updating your Anderson thread any time soon?

Envy - when you offer us all a fair and balanced opinion, i'll consider not commenting on your drivel.

But all the time you come out with gems like this:


EnvyMyGreen 21 Aug 12 14:41 
Not only was it a stonewall penalty but a red card too. Ref handed it to them last night, absolutely gifted them the win.


I'll continue to make you look an idiot.

ABUs always look silly when they write United off.

I don't believe there to be a post where I have wrote United off but carry on RMB

united get written off every year and 9/10 we have the last laugh. Roll on Saturday good performance and 3 points will do.

I haven't written United off either, i said earlier they'll be comfortably top 3.

Most of the hong kongs on here have never seen their team lift a trophy.

(kagawa looks decent, but none of the other united central midfielders would get in the everton team, and we finished 7th,

Pootle talking about a side that starts with gibson and phil neville in the middle....you could not make this level of delusion up


Amazing how many people have missed the point of this thread

Think Pootle probably had the first choice midfield of Pienaar, Fellaini, Gibson and Mirallas in mind Roy


Love how we make you seethe every season by 'raising' our game



1-0

Pienaar, Fellaini, Gibson and Mirallas in mind Roy

You still going Roy?
You need to get over it and move on fella, gonna be a long hard season for you otherwise

If you're an Everton fan I could say exactly the same to you when you drop points to fleetwood town in couple of weeks.

United fans in here have just shown why we are the greatest football supporters in the world. We've made both Everton fans and ABUs alike appear as bumbling idiots with our superior knowledge and expertise about the beautiful game.

was that supposed to be funny?

Strugging to take Roy seriously after reading his 'Owen will be better than Tevez' thread

No one comes out of this thread with any credit I think.

I'm embarrassed by the United fans. Whinging about a side that raises their game against United? Whinging about referee errors, as if we don't get any?

We were beaten by the better team. Want to blame someone? Ask Ferguson why Vidic wasn't marking Fellaini on corners.

Having said that, look at the non United fans on here. People say the ABU thing is a myth, but you don't see people wetting themselves with excitement when anyone else loses like this.

There are Liverpool fans on here, who seem happy with the weekend because United lost - with their 3-0 humping at the hands of West Brom a non-thought.

Perhaps you'll blame the stupid United fans on here for your behaviour, but ur both as bad as eachother I think.

tevez is a useful golf caddy not much else.

Daveyboymoyes 22 Aug 12 10:46 
Strugging to take Roy seriously after reading his 'Owen will be better than Tevez' thread






No one ever takes Roy seriously. Especially after this gem of a quote from last season.



R0ykeane     23 Oct 11 21:05 
Our replacements have come in and done so well that the lines are blurred now but defensively there is no better squad in the league.

In attack we have rooney, as good as anyone in the league, chicharito, berbatov- the leading scorer last year, owen, welbeck. No other side has that depth of quality. These are facts.

we have the best set of wide players in the league in nani/valencia and young.

City look to be next in line but they boast neither the riches in attack nor defence.

Poor Roy

Or this one:


R0ykeane     25 Apr 11 23:07 
People think im joking when I say mancini must stay.

I dont say they cannot win with mancini but no matter how much they spend he will act as a limiting force particularly in league comp.

We were beaten by the better team. Want to blame someone?

No....next question.

Biscuit, what is quite funny is you're not sharp enough to see you're proving my point for me every post you make.

City only just won the title last yr even though utd had by far worse injuries. Do you honestly think mourinho would not have had that wrapped up long before the last 30seconds of the season were he at the helm?

Trust me when I say I am pleased mancini is the one in charge. Of all the managers in world football they could have he is someone that would be high on my list. Of course they can succeed with him but that does not change anything I said.

Regards,

R0y.

a thread like this could only have been started by an armchair SKY manc like the op, who has rarely if ever been to OT. genuine fans would be appalled at this!


lingering bitterness at the Toffees for not rolling over at utd last season, too. IMO

City won the league scoring the most goals and conceding the fewest and you think their manager is a limiting force.

it's actually quite amazing how one man can be so wrong about so many things. This forum is littered with ridiculous comments from you, you thinking your squad is better than city's, you thinking mancini is limiting, you thinking Owen is better than Tevez, the list goes on. Then you have the cheek to say others are "not sharp enough". Give it a rest, you make Paul Merson sound clever.



Oh look here's another gem:


R0ykeane     25 Oct 11 11:29 
utd have better quality and crucially more depth in the final third than city. Should be fairly obvious imho. If you want to debate they have more quality thats up to you...if you want to debate the depth in the striking department you're mad. I've not even made mention of the likes of Macheda

Berbatov will be better than Bergkamp.

end of thread

Rodan • August 22, 2012 11:30 AM BST
Berbatov will be better than Bergkamp.


*CLUELESS*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WACjYbbfLg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrC2Ms5uP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfeVsRf0dK0

^^^^^^ KING ^^^^^^

Enjoy,

No way that lazy coont BerbaKn0b will be remembered as even being half as good as what Dennis was

+

Bergy that was another famous thread title by the OP, in no way do I share that view!!!!!!!

This is becoming a pleasing thread in multiple ways.

I'm sure you'll be keen to keep bumping it then ROy!

Biscuit1979
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City won the league scoring the most goals and conceding the fewest and you think their manager is a limiting force.

it's actually quite amazing how one man can be so wrong about so many things. This forum is littered with ridiculous comments from you, you thinking your squad is better than city's, you thinking mancini is limiting, you thinking Owen is better than Tevez, the list goes on. Then you have the cheek to say others are "not sharp enough". Give it a rest, you make Paul Merson sound clever.

I know this concept is very hard for you to follow but yes, given that money to spend I have no doubts that countless managers could have done as good, and better than mancini. No doubt whatsoever. I am happy with him in situ rather than a mourinho, a hiddink etc

Not really rocket science.

Quite right ROy, we all know your biggest fear is that Mr Usmanov should take over at Arsenal and Arsene Wenger have unlimited funds with which to operate!

Over2.5     08 Dec 11 15:44 
i see the forum clown r0ykeane has fairly changed his tune in things today..... what a complete and utter balloon head you are, you havent got a clue about football full stop





Time to give up, log off and go for a lie down if over 2.5 is calling you clueless

"balloon head"

Rodan • August 22, 2012 11:49 AM BST
Bergy that was another famous thread title by the OP, in no way do I share that view!!!!!!!

My Apolgies Rodan,

Then you Roy are the clueless 1

Incorrect (again) if the resident loon (under2.5 brain cells) is agreeing with you on anything you know you are on dodgy ground

Apologies*

No problem Bergy, it was a thread from way before you signed up, I think ROy started it when Berbatov joined manU. It used to get bumped every now and again so we could all have a laugh at it but I don't know if it's still out there or not. Comedy gold, see it if you can!

Ah right I see Rodan good stuff haha

Yeah souns a good read if anyone has it saved

I've saved it...gives me a good chuckle every time some half brain brings it up. Reminds me of a poker saying...if you sit down at a poker table for 30mins and can't work out who the fish is get up and leave sharpi**** you!!

sharp ish ?

oh pish ( P i s h)

nope...strange. sharpish

sharpi(sh 1t) was the prob.

Remember one night when the filter broke? most juvenile night ever on betfair, was amazing! Damn sure we can't bump anything from that night..

Gold that

I not so often agree with R0y but he is correct about Mancini. Anyone who follow Italian football can tell you this. He get into position by being in right place right time. Take Inter squad with little competition to league title is nothing after Calciopoli. Against any good manager he lost head to head. Spalletti is 10x the manager who pushed with no money. Mancini can not do this

He did quite well in his head to heads with Fergie last season

kingofROME
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I not so often agree with R0y but he is correct about Mancini.

1.01 gubbed

I agree.

MANCINI MUST STAY

the poor guy is already a shivering wreck after rvp and henriquez turned him down to join the real team in manchester.

“But playing for results is not the same as playing soccer—my teams play soccer,” he said in 2009. “The way some so-called winning teams play today, it’s all about the players. The managers just focus on not conceding and leave everything up to the players. Guys like [Fabio] Capello and [Jose] Mourinho are hailed as geniuses because they win. Well, they win because they have the best players, not because of what they do. I could put my dead grandfather in charge of their teams and they would still win.”

Biscuit, I put Mancini in same meaning as quote. Put him in charge of a young team with promise, he will fail as he has little coach quality.

Biscuit,stop it...its like kicking a puppy

Amazing thread, I had no idea how stupid some united fans were

Carrick - wouldnt get in any other top 8 side in the country
Anderson - wouldnt get in a top 12 side in the country
Cleverly - decent but needs help
Scholes - one of the top 3 players in the premiership over the past 20yrs, is clearly on his last legs, his performance the other night was a shadow of his greatness, he couldnt cope.

Yes we have Gibson in our midfield, and he is limited, but he allows Felli to play. Carrick is shocking and Anderson is a sunday league player.

United fans should demand more, their central midfield is not as good as it needs to be.

Their full backs are pretty average too
They will be top 3, but they wont win the league without strengthening their weak areas

As for Everton and the initial post, for about 10years we barely ever won a game live on sky, we were rank. Recently we've stepped up. Most of the past 5 / 6 seasons from Jan to May we've been the 3rd best team in terms of points, problem is august to dec we are 3rd worst.
Its nothing to do with sky or the so called big teams, its pre xmas, post xmas.
The one season it didnt happen we finished 4th.


Perhaps betfair should close the thread to save united fans further embarrassing themselves.

You are right there, midefield not as good as it needs to be, yet we still managed to nearly win the league last year and won it previously before that with them players. we have got kagawa now so he will be our attacking talent for that midfield. You say we should expect more, in all honestly everton fans should expect more, how many years since you have won something is it? Ok give me the moyes has done a brilliant job, but if 10-20 even further in the future you win nothing then to say united fans should expect more is madness.  If you are satisfied then good for you, im pretty sure players and staff would not be deep down

We have no money, we have a chairman who in 10 years has put exactly £0.00 into the club
We want more but until we are bought out we are stuck, half the fans love the chairman and think he is wonderful, the other half want him gone, but we know that any potential buyers have long since moved on, the guys who bought city, looked at us before buying city, but the chairman didnt want to sell then, so they went down the M62 instead. Without a buyer we're screwed, we can develop kids and sell them and hope to improve with the money, like Jeffers, Rooney, Rodwell, and there will be more.

United fans dislike their owners, but they have spent, and united has wealth far beyond what we have it generates far more.
So expectations are different

I have nothing against united, each time they win something it allows me to take the piss out of my kopite mates, I just think to compete to win the title and champions league, which are uniteds aims, then another central midfielder is needed.

I think RVP is a good signing, it enables him to rotate Rooney and RVP when needed. But I'd have gone for a midfield giant first. Kagawa is good, but its someone like Keane, Viera, Toure, Essein, Makalele, that united seem to lack.

A fit fletcher is that man, remains to be seen if he can go back to he was. Maybe the right player has not become available or fergie thinks this bunch can step up. We competed last year and lost by 90 seconds. Champions league was a blip, prior to that we been to majority of finals in recent years, and if not for barca with this taka taka we may have gave them a game.

Too many united fans expect too much sometimes with what we have one last 20 years you would think people would be happy. end of the day football is 11 men against 11 on the pitch and anything can happend just like betting to be honest. We have not finished lower than 3rd in the premier league since it began and majority of times have been 1st and 2nd a few times. Expectations of course is to win, but you can't win them all at times.

Everton have a very good team and im sure they will all be there for this year at least, what expectations do you have? You have beaten man united so if you can do that you can proberly beat alot of other teams. I will keep the faith with fergie as he has hardly let united fans down over the years and does not have many left so will want to go out with a bang! Roll on saturday to put it right!

Everton players putting themselves in the shop window against the big teams.......R0y's spot on.

sours grapes is an understatement for this thread. got beat fair and square, been getting hundreds of pens at ot for years, and now its evertons fault for trying hard. oh and man city have got pots of money now. its just not fair these days poor things.

lol who has sour grapes as i certainly do not. You need to put your crack pipe down as hundreds of pens for years at old trafford is hillarious! Man city can have their millions. As the dark knight rises goes, a fire will rise, and that fire will be the red devils come may! All hail king fergie :)

Jesus Christ

Man Utd fans love a seeeeth don't they

You got outplayed in EVERY part of the game and LOST, move on you will win more than you lose but are not going to win ANY trophies this year

Man Utd fans love a seethe

What a stupid thing to say.

I suppose the OP's thoughts now represent us all. Great stuff - that should give you something to base your anti-United drivel on, anyway.

How about you take a view contrary to the OP + the other one eyed plastics then to dispel such a sweeping statement?

But no you pin it down to anti-Utd.

Are sane fans meant to sit back and say 'what a sensible and enlightened lot these mancs are' or question the lunacy of the ranting?

When is the club going to change its name to Moanchester United?

charwell - why don't you read back a little, and see that that's exactly what I did.

Best try reading the thread before making ridiculous comments like you have just done.

MANURE fans along with their manager = ZERO CLASS
This thread ZERO CLASS
Man U this season so far ZERO POINTS

Oh look. charwell went quiet

oh, stop it!

This has been one of the best 45 minutes by any team in the history of the Premier League.

Those who wrote United off on Monday looking like complete mugs now.

You are talking about Everton right, MrEnvy,...

3-0 up at half time away from home

EASY EASY EASY

what a mug roy is

Villa struggling to cope with the hoof it long balls Pootle?

What SKY channel is this game on please?

Envy STILL seething LOL

poor little united

R0ykeane 21 Aug 12 14:21
Just hilarious how their performance level drops when utd are not in town or the sky cameras are away.

I bet the Villa fans couldn't stop laughing at Everton on Saturday

Reverting to type today.Well done Everton.

United fans still seething

Epic

Pathetic display today. Fellaini couldn't be bothered yet when Sky and United are in he is a man possessed.

get over it ffs

RMB,Transfer window is closed,No real need to impress,He'll be back to form in january no doubt.

Fellaini's miss at 0-0 very poor display all round and thats why he's still at Everton.

great goal against manure though

HAHAHA!!

come back r0y

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Pathetic display today. Fellaini couldn't be bothered yet when Sky and United are in he is a man possessed.