Fulham to be relegated

Cant see it RF, Swansea nailed on, there'll be two others worse than Fulham

Weak league this year.  Fully agree with blackburn about Swansea.

I reckon relegation is between Reading, Swansea, Southampton, Wigan, West Brom and Norwich.  I think Fulham are an improving team and could finish top 10 if they hold onto Dembele and Dempsey.

Yep, If they hold on to Dempsey and he plays to the same level as last season then they should get enough points. Time for Dembele to step up a gear.

West Ham will be in the mix too, didn't look great last year and Allardyce under big pressure

Not sure I agre on that, they have too much quality and good strong back 5. Will need a lot of bad luck/injuries.

Def 3 worse teams than Fulham even at 10s it presents no real value imo

martin jol is a shrewd cat fulham wont go down

lol, no Fulham won't go down for ****

think the spreads have got it right just above mid table.

Dempsey & Dembele have only 1 year left on their contracts and both are likely to leave before the transfer window ends in a couple of weeks time. If you factor in the loss of the 4 players referred to by the OP then I think (sadly) that they will finish in the bottom half of the table this time round.

Hopefully Jol is shrewd enough to keep them clear of relegation.

Not the worst bet imo but for me the value lies with Aston Vanilla

A club that always claim to be huge yet offer absolutely nothing to the Premiership or any of the cup comps imho

I can see them going tiits up this year and the manager being way out of his comfort zone

Bad season for Villa imho

Cant see this happening to be fair.

If Villa were going to drop, it would have been last season under McLeish. Bent injured, and the slowest back 4 I've ever seen in Hutton, Warnock, Dunne and Collins. Plus the fact most of the players looked bewildered by the manager and his tactics. I think they will do ok this time round.

If there is any value in the teams that normal hover round lower mid table safety doing what Bolton did last year, then the value must be 7-1 on Stoke. The leagues lowest scorers last year, and no new signing as of yet to put that right. Robert Huth to miss the first few games, and they have a nasty set of fixtures to begin with that could shape their season - Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool all in the first 8 games.

Good post HRH,i agree can also see Stoke having a tough season this year.

Stoke lost a fair few points on the back of tough European games last season...think they'll be alright myself

I would lay Fulham at 10/1 all day long. No chance they will go down

Fulham were nearly backed every week at home last year = no chance, id be a layer @ 10/1 too !

Fulham are safe as houses under the astute management of martin jol, i just wish he was still at the lane

Norwich particularly and possibly Swansea are likely to struggle this year both having lost superb managers. Norwich squad looks very poor both at the back and up front. (the midfield is ok). Be very surprised if Fulham were dragged into it. Etuhu and Murphy are not big losses. Holding on to Dembele is important tho.

Hugo Rodallega has no Prem experience?

Petric has settled in well already and scored something like 5 in 6 pre season.

Fulham will be just fine.

Swansea, Wigan and one of the new boys (hopefully West Ham) to go down, imo.

The loss of Etuhu and Murphy should not be underestimated, particularly the latter imo

The chances of Dembele staying are remote given that he has only 12 months left on his 3 year contract. Fulham simply cannot afford to let him run down his contract. Some of the big clubs are interested including RM

Not that I rate him, but they will probably sign Charlie Adam and he could do a decent enough job for them.

Hope not - he can stay at Liverpool

Etuhu started 9 league games for Fulham last season. I can't have it that he's a loss at all. He's never been anything other than very average. Murphy has been a class player but age undoubtedly started to catch up with him.

To some extent youre right - but Etuhu was a good squad player, and although age is catching up with Murphy he has made Fulham tick over the past few years - you and many others continue to underestimate his value to FFC

i was waiting for it , the annual fulham-to-be-relegated thread  . some of you must like giving your money away .

top 9 certs if dembele and dempsey stay, top 12 certs regardless of who leaves or stays this summer window.

kin etuhu is s hite, surely gettin grid of him is a positive. no way will fulham be relegated.

Compensation year, i agree with you to a large extent regarding Murphy but there comes a time when age catches up with everyone. Still can't have Etuhu tho.

Yes, age has certainly caught up with me having watched Fulham for nearly 60 years.

My concern is that Murphy is not easily replaced given his experience and the loss of other midfield players at the same time is a worry.

There is not that much difference in terms of ability between 9th position in the league where FFC finished last season and the relegation scrap - and the guy above who suggests Dempsey & Dembele are staying is living in cloud cuckoo land imo. Happy to be proved wrong of course.

morptem mackem - a bit of a sweeping statement I would suggest. Etuhu has been a decent squad player for a few years. To call him rubbish says more about you than about his ability imo

Think there are easily three worse teams myself. Norwich my shoo in for the drop, and I think Swansea, West Brom and the 3 promoted teams are all much more likely to go down.

Fulham's consistent home record will keep them up. West Ham may struggle if they persevere with a long ball game.

compensation years, dont forget we had ethuhu at sunderland,ask any sunderland fan what think of him, he's garbage. please name any attribute he has aa a midfielder , could do with a laugh.