In Russia every fella says "stay away from Russian football", it's too f ucked up.

at least the market tells us how it is f'd up, and we can play along

too unpredictable some says, corrupt and so on.

I should try lay 0-0 challenge

me too

Neftekhimik - Tom' 1:1 after 20 min, 2 out of 4 already in there

Thanks, sherrie, wish I didn't chase for high scoring in the first ones

No there hasn't. Some lucky punter got 10s on a team winning 1-0 in the last minute.

Disallowed? futbol24 still have it as 1-1.

Ouch.

Neftekhimik - Tom' 2:3, goalfest at it's best

To those who may wonder about the absence of Stuttgart - Dinamo game here, I decided to skip it, as there is not a lot you can say about  Stuttgarts pre-season form and Dinamo in Eupore and in Russia this season - two different teams, that's why I didn't have any clear ideas about this match.

SKA-Energiya - Spartak Nalchik. 11:00 CET.
SKA have been very reliable at home this season, winning all 3 matches, while Spartak is not too consistent for a relegated team, but still showing good attacking football. Teams are nearly table neighbours and I'm expecting a close battle here. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Spartak Nalchik lay at 3.4, Ov1.5 at 1.41 and Ov2.5 at 2.34, Both teams to score - yes at 1.84.

Result: 1-0.

Yenisey Krasnoyarsk - Volgar-Gazprom. 14:00 CET.
Yenisey are having a very good season so far and they should prove a little too strong for miserable Volgar side, especially at home. There is though some strange hints that this match may be fixed for Volgar or a draw, but I will put this aside and will bet according to my expectations - and they say it will be open and attacking game. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Yenisey Krasnoyarsk wins at 1.5, Ov1.5 at 1.4 and Ov2.5 at 2.24, Next goal - Yenisey at 1.38.

Result: 0-0.

Ural - Salyut. 16:00 CET.
Both teams are having a so-so season, but Ural at home is always strong and reliable, while I don't trust Salyut on the road form. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Ural wins at 1.68, Un2.5 at 1.91 and Un3.5 at 1.39, Both teams to score - no at 1.72.

Result: 2-0.

Shinnik - Rotor Volgograd. 17:00 CET.
Rotor bosses really want their team to retain the former glory of two time silver medalist and CL participants. Rotor is currently third, but they have a lot of time and on of the strongest teams in FNL. Shinnik don't show anything spectaculat and their 23-match Un3.5 streak hints, that it won't be a goalfest. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Shinnik lay at 2.94, Un2.5 at 1.6, Both teams to score - no at 1.77, Half time - draw at 1.95.

Result: 1-0.

Neftekhimik - Tom'. 18:00 CET.
Tom' is the current leader of the field and they really-really want to return to the top flight. Neftekhimik is showing good attacking football but overall they lack class and I don't believe in their victory in this match. Should be quite open though. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Neftekhimik lay at 2.92, Ov1.5 at 1.34 and Ov2.5 at 2.14, Both teams to score - yes at 1.65.

Result: 3-3.

Petrotrest - Baltika. 20:00 CET.
Both teams are mediocre this season, but this fact is much more worse for Baltika, as Petrotrest are having just their first season in the First Division. Baltika haven't lost a single match on the road this season and I don't expect them to do it here. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Petrotrest lay at 2.26, Un2.5 at 1.85 and Un3.5 at 1.31, Both teams to score - no at 1.94.

Result: 0-1.

Thanks, falkirk, I will try.

Today we have 2 Europa League matches with Russian clubs taking part live on Betfair.

Anzhi Makhachkala - AZ Alkmaar. 19:00 CET.
Anzhi have shown good spirit in this Europa League, winning all of their four matches, and while they are not doing exceptionally well in Russian Premier League, their class shoud be enough in this match. The return of Traore and Eto'O will also be useful. AZ have shown some lively football in the first two rounds of the home championships, but I expect Anzhi to be a little too tough for them on the road. Cautious football with home side prevailing. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Anzhi Makhachkala wins at 2, Un2.5 at 1.92 and Un3.5 at 1.38, Both teams to score - no at 2.14.

AIK - CSKA Moscow. 20:00 CET.
CSKA is quickly coming to live after a shocking start to the championships and trying to overcome the absence of Dumbia and Necid. AIK  were solid so far in their Europa League matches and I don't reckon CSKA being such a strong favourite away from home that odds suggest. A draw is quite possible here and not an open match too. Which means, that recommended bets will be: CSKA lay at 1.98, Un2.5 at 1.74 and Un3.5 at 1.28, Both teams to score - no at 1.92.

Today we have 4 Premier League matches live on Betfair.

Lokomotiv - Dinamo Moscow. 12:30 CET.
Lokomotiv are currently in the third place and are showing good attacking football. Dinamo keeps breaking records and are now on a 5 matches losing streak with 1-11 difference. The players in Dinamo seem to be satisfied with the money they get and just don't want to work for those. But historically this encounter saw more success of "the policemen", which hints that this will be a close battle. I expect goals to be scored with Lokomotiv prevailing. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Lokomotiv wins at 1.92, Ov1.5 at 1.37 and Ov2.5 at 2.1, Both teams to score - yes at 1.9.

Zenit St. Petersburg - Rubin Kazan'. 15:00 CET.
Zenit are nearly invincible this season, but they don't have a good history against Rubin at home. In the last 4 matches here in SPb they won only once. Also it should be mentioned, that out of the last 10 meetings 6 were draws and Rubin won the very last encounter in SuperCup. It will be a tough match for both with slight preference to Zenit and I don't expect a lot of goals here. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Zenit wins at 1.79, Un2.5 at 1.87 and Un3.5 at 1.33, Both teams to score - no at 1.9. (But a bet on a draw and 0-0 also possible).

Terek Grozni - Spartak Moscow. 17:30 CET.
Both teams are having a good season with only one 0-5 blimp for both, but in this match there will be some good players missing from either side. Spartak is also questionable of showing all their guts before their visit to Turkey. Still think that Moscow team are favourites here and as all their matches were overs this season, goals are likely to come. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Terek lay at 3.55, Ov1.5 at 1.34 and Ov2.5 at 1.99, Both teams to score - yes at 1.73.

Rostov - Alania Vladikavkaz. 19:45 CET.
Rostov are having miserable season so far and managed to get only 2 points. Alania has come back to life in the last 3 rounds but their away form is always under doubt. Alania had all 5 of their games on overs and Rostov had 3 out of 5 overs, but - and a big one -  the history of their rivalry tells us that out of the last 10 matches between this two teams 9 were on unders. Rostov really needs points, but they struggle to score and not conceding too many. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Rostov wins at 2.28, Un2.5 at 1.78, Un3.5 at 1.29, Both teams to score - no at 2.02.

Today we have 3 Premier League matches live on Betfair.

Amkar - FK Krasnodar. 13:00 CET.
Meeting of table neighbours here, both teams have 7 points at the moment. FK Krasnodar showed some solid home form and not soo solid form on the road. Amkar started the season brightly for their standards and they are usually reliable in defense. I expect the home team at least to hold on here and don't think their will be loads of goals. Which means,that recommended bets will be: FK Krasnodar lay at 3.3, Draw at 3.25, Un2.5 at 1.64, Both teams to score - no at 1.9.

CSKA Moscow - Kryliya Sovetov. 15:30 CET.
CSKA is on a run of 3 straight wins, including the Europa League match with AIK. They are too good for Kryliya really but I don't think it will be a hammering here, as one or two important players should be rested for CSKA before the second leg with Swedish team. On the other hand Kryliya are not likely to score here anyway. Expecting a 2-0 score. Which means, that recommended bets will be: CSKA Moscow wins at 1.39, Asian handicap CSKA Moscow -1.5 at 2.05, Un3.5 at 1.36, Both teams to score - no at 1.7.

Anzhi Makhachkala - Mordovia Saransk. 18:00 CET.
Home team are absolute favourites to win here, but I suspect that they will give rest to some key players and will play for result and not entertaiment. All five matches for Anzhi in the championships were unders and I don't expect it to change here. Which means, that recommended bets will be: Anzhi Makhachkala wins at 1.38, Asian handicap Mordovia Saransk +1.5 at 1.47, Un2.5 at 1.92, Both teams to score - no at 1.67.

sorry 1-2 now

Is anyon else getting nothing on the display but "Amkar V FK..." and no score or time bar?

http://www.usagoals.com/live/178441-amkar-perm-vs-krasnodar/watch/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/en/vivo/tv/gratis/

Doubled stake and greened out now

Just gonna enjoy the goalfest now 2-2

still 2-2 66 mins.

Link above to the game

It was a disallowed goal due to handplay