Rangers to win division 3

we will be guaranteed a trip to Hampden this season anyway

the demotion to div 3 and the transfer ban are for 2 diffrent offences.

the transfer ban still stands so they can only sign players who are not attached to other clubs and players at other clubs who are not on contract.

most LOVE IT, so much money for all the smaller clubs i bet the owners are happy

boy I work with played for east stirling last year a mad rangers fan,was going to jack it but after todays news was onto his gaffer to re-sign

fair play mcoullough. altho u cant really expect other guys that want to play international football to stay

fair play mcoullough. altho u cant really expect other guys that want to play international football to stay

If Lee McCulloch was 23 he would be off quicker than a **** could drop her keeks ffs

*****

newco - joe67   love it

newco - joe67   love it

I would think that when playing away, Rangers will take more supporters than the population of the towns they're playing

They must be 50/50 to actually get through the season. 15 days until start of season, no name, no money, no sponsors and only 6 players. Charlie Chuckles ain't going to put any money in, they had sold 250 season tickets last week and no right minded bank/business will lend them any money/give credit.

They have Wallace and Mcculloch on about £50,000 combined, over a 100 non playing staff still on SPL level salaries and have the cost of running Ibrox and Murray Park. The running cost of Sevco will massively eat in to the money they get from season tickets and s I understand it ticket prices in SFL 3 are restricted to £12.

Isn't there a park near Ibrox they could play on instead?

they must be 50/50 to actually get through the season

they must be 50/50 to actually get through the season

the sl3 will benefit surley

surely

will be interesting to see what happens and if they do start in div3. Scottish football has gone to pot. This sort of thing should have seen things put in place when Celtic went in to financial meltdown and the chains and padlocks were put up. When Fergus McCann's Celtic started to exist in 1994 after the previous Celtic were raped and pillaged from within, the rulebook should have been re-written then for the future. But the bunglers at the sfa as usual sat on their brains and continued to twiddle their thumbs throught the years.

Luckily Fergus's Celtic continues today albeit in debt again. But Regan and Doncaster must be proud, scotland has 2 five star stadiums and not one will be in the spl. The biggest attendance in scotland every second week will be in the 3rd division. TV deals must be piling up on their desks minute by minute at the product on offer.

You wont get a price on Rangers winning div3 or Cetic the spl. The best and most exciting market will be which spl teams goes bust first and what happens when they can't fulfill their fixtures.

But we must look on the bright side, i reckon in 5 years time we will over take the northern irish and welsh leagues and start to get some pride back. Nearby foreign countries like Iceland, Ireland, Sweden etc must be sitting back laughing their heads off.

no prices out yet but might lay them to win the league if the price is about evens.

run    i think you'll find rangers are around evs for 3 consecutive promotions

please see me first runcornhoward!!!!

i'll go 4 to 5 they are in the spl within 5 years

If you get anyone to lay that bet iron gies a shout son i want some of that action.

Irish and Welsh leagues? Living up to your name clown? The SFL 1 has higher average attendances than them without either of Celtic or the recently departed Rangers and allo of a sudden Rangers ceasing to exist will mean the SPL will be on a par with them. How exactly?

i'd only want a grand...madvlad how much do you want?....betfair set it up please!

Not a very shrewd dude if you can't work it out. You might work it out when celtic are out of europe and slash the squad and wage bill. Celtic will only need players a step up from the dross they will be playing week in , week out. Getting weaker both in scottish football and europe. Other teams around them will be going to pot, league fixtures, cup fixtures all up in the air if teams can't play their fixtures. ICT have called an emergency meeting tomorrow. Killie and Motherwell are sweating buckets along with Dundee Utd and Aberdeen. But then again there will be plenty of TV money to share around eh ?

Looking at other industries lately that are going to pot, methinks you might be a banker or something similar. Very similar.

Celtic's board have maintained throughout the Rangers fiasco they are not financially reliant on the Old Firm clashes and are protecting the Hoops' best interests.The statement continued: "Whilst the financial implications of today's vote for Celtic and for the Scottish game as a whole will be very significant, we have already stated that Celtic has a business plan and strategy independent of any other club.

They are hardly going to say "Ffs we didnt think the rest of them were going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and Neils going to have to put up with less money to spend" are they

There is a chance that the new club will go skint as well, i hear ticket prices in div 3 are pegged and i cant see Ibrox being packed out to watch dross every other week once the novelty wears off

you mean new company , the club is just an asset of a company.

i think what has happened today can be traced back to one mans ego and obsession  to try and match celtics achievements by hook or by crook and has finally been played out today although the taxman could still try and get some revenge on him for destroying our national sport

sorry new company, i hear virtually all the players have gone now, whos going to sponsor them? and wtf's going to want to lend them money in this climate??

I think the originaly the SPL clubs thought they'd just teach them a lesson and that the SFL would just play the game and stick em in Div 1 and they are tonight sweating.

that's the same problem for a lot of the clubs - quite a few running tight ships , with no overdraft - take out planned sky/espn money that looks unlikely to happen - then it's a problem

remember the sfa can promote a spl2

If the accusation is true and a lot of the fans are just glory hunters then there wont be a lot of glory to follow!!

the way to save scottish football is become part of the english league.

as the div 4/5 north(poor).

about the right level macclesfield, darlington, celtic, gateshead.

That cant be done in such a short timescale for this year surely, div 3 kicks off in late July!!

And the novelty will wear off in the spl as well. I saw one Aberdeen fan saying all they need to do is get 19,000 in to the ground. Good luck to them. Celtic have a lot of foreign fans from countries in big financial trouble getting bail outs right left and centre. When there isn't much of a challenge i can't see them in a hurry getting their wellies on to skip over water when they need every euro they can get for themself.

At the start of the season you will see grounds swell, then the scottish weather will kick in. Then the lack of competitiveness will kick in. Then when Dundee utd, aberdeen, hearts , hibs or any other team then start picking up draws and defeats and realise coming 2nd won't happen. Their grounds won't swell anymore. The tears will though.

And the sad thing is, regan and doncaster whose jacket's are on a shoogly peg probably won't be around to see the fruits of their labour.

There's something quite alluring about a group of youth/academy players taking on the might of division 3. The Lodge will ensure that the punters turn up/buy season tickets, (even if they don't turn up). Rangers will survive, as will Celtic though probably with a weakened squad. What price the rest of the SPL failing to get through the 2012/13 season?

coco you seem to have a thing about regan and doncaster

They are doing a fine job, they know the scottish game inside out and could still yet walk away with a £3m Sky/Espn deal even with Rangers in the 3rd division. Im sure clubs will be happy to get their bumper share of that.

It's just that i heard from someone that the pegs they hang their jackets up on have come loose. It was someone's auntie's, brother's, sister's cousin that told them who told me.

So Clown how will they be comparable to the Irish and Welsh leagues who have a lower average attendance than SFL 1 who don't have Celtic and Rangers in SPL? Answer they won't it's just fear mongering.

You can't live without us. The only way the Scottish football will survive is cheating is condoned. That seems to be your position. Maybe Motherwell and ICT should be able to preserve themselves by tax evasion and cheating and if at the end of the day they can't they will have the option of being promoted in to the SPL and SFL1 should they liquidate.

Your doomsday scenario seems to have completely described the last couple of months in dealing with the new club Sevco. League and cup fixtures up in the air. Aye because some new diddy team wanted automatic promotion to the SPL.

Just be thankful the governing bodies broke their rules and granted you access to the SFL and try and complete your fixtures. (When I say you I'm assuming you are a former Rangers fan who now is a fan of Sevco)

Are you calling me a Clown ?

Shrewd has issues with u

end of the day , if the chairmen of the spl clubs had a bit of commerical savvy - they would have voted for yes to the newco
nothing doncaster and regan could do about the rise in the sporting integrity thats engulfed the fans

Yes, i was beginning to think that. It was so upsetting thinking that he called me a clown. That is the first time anyone has ever called me that.

Yes, it's in your name. Do you want me to pluck a random name out of thin air to address you?

major issues

Anyway time will tell, and if the sfa had acted when Celtic went bust. Not the bunnet's Celtic, the one before that. Then maybe all this would have been avoided. They could have used that Celtic as a test case and put something in place where all scottish teams had to live within their means.

Unfortunately they didn't see the warning signs and we have what we have.


Sad times for scottish football, dear oh dear, oh dear.

but nothing to do with doncaster and regan in the above respect

Yes cheating and league fixing is not condoned. How very sad for Scottish football.

Great day buddy isn't it. Have a good one.

Rocket

Forgot how crazy this place is

You have a name as well, but i can assure you the thought of calling you shrewd never crossed my mind, it made me chuckle. In fact i have just burst out laughing dude.

Maybe we should change names,, i could be shrewdcoco and you could be the dudeclown or is that the dudclown. Calm down shrewd one, it's only a point of view we all have. Chill out. Don't be a diddy dude.

Yeah fireworks were expected though and we got it. Happy days.

Lots of no win situations

I actually thought it was quite rude , if someone was called peter the plumber , you wouldn't say hey plumber

I don't know him on a personal basis so the formal manner of using his second name was used. It would have been darn right disrespectful otherwise.

clown is his 2nd name is his profession

sorry that should read , clown isn't his 2nd name

No win situation    1  Fans of SPL clubs wanted newco to be not allowed into the SPL even though it was committing financial hardship

Bugger me. How was I mean to know that? Why does he want everyone to know his profession rather than what he wants to be called?

the clue was in the words  ,  maybe just a dim guy ?  maybe you have an issue with him ?  , you do seem to be caught up with him from what I can read .....i love the forum

Coco   the   clown
Peter the  butcher
Joe the plumber
Martin the dancer

Hmmm, the formal manner. Anyone with manners would have called me coco, there was a big clue there to my name. But then again you will know better. Assuming you'r really known as the shrewd dude and have been known to be addressed as shrewd as your first name.


Fancy a pint coco ?, people wouldn't look twice if they heard someone say that. Fancy a pint shrewd ?, people would certainly look twice.

But i would then explain to them the situation. I would also tell them your application for the krypton factor, eggheads etc, got lost in the post and that is why you were reduced to having a pint with coco.


theclown.

He did seem to get caught up and only after a few post's. He is acting like a new stert

I blame doncaster and regan

No he was acting like a guy that was fuming with rage with you , makes no difference if he's been on here 1 yr or 11 yrs

That's me. You caught me. I discriminate against people due to their jobs.I recognise my problem and how outdated my attitudes are and in the future it will hopefully be categorised in similar terms as sexism,racism and homophobia. Political correctness will in the future hopefully prevent people who work as clowns being called one.

Maybe this is a campaign that the former Rangers fans can focus on to make the world a better place. All that spare time on their hands could be put to work and I certainly would support them. This is an issue that needs resolved.

you are now getting into hyper rage here  - love this forum tonight - thanks

Don't worry about it. It's just the society we live in today. We all seem to be seen to be something we are not and all want to be something we are not.

I think the problem here is that it is far more easier for me to be portrayed as a clown, as it is for you to be portrayed as shrewd. I don't have much work to do, whereas unfortunately i think you have many many working hours ahead of you.


Makes me wonder who the shrewd one really is

Awwww bless. You Sevco fans are so cute. I just want to pick the pair of you up and put you in my pocket.

you must have a big pocket

and your full of big assumptions - this forum is made for you

I'm a sevco fan 

Can picture the scene   , right I'm going on my computer and going to give it large to any rankgers fans - this will make me feel better ....love this mentality

and i'll be the judge and jury on who I think is a fan of that said club .... burst a gut here

you played a blinder last night mate

T Stokes sums up the mentality of people on here

“When I was at Falkirk I used to go along to Celtic Park on Champions League nights and it was better than an Old Firm game for me. I’d been to these matches when I was a kid at Arsenal as well and there’s nothing to beat it.

Ha Ha

try telling that to 20,000 fans ( or empty seats ) when Celtic are double digits clear of their rivals in Dec

the game is fooked

Yes, its armageddon, if you believe the hype.
How many clubs went bust when rangers were winning their tainted 9 in a row?
How come nobody said it was armageddon when rangers had 3 teams, one for europe, one for the league, one for the cups?
Going by the armageddon logic, every team who gets relegated from the SPL should have went bust, how many have?
How did, e.g. Hibs crowds go when they were relegated?
How many have turned up for a friendly today between Dundee and Dundee Utd?

Not sure I believe all the talk about half the teams going out of business.
The SL3 teams should be better off by playing Rangers twice at home.
To some extent that may apply to SL2 & SL1 teams as New Rangers get promoted.

TV for SPL will go down but clubs can distribute that on a more even basis now that the 10-2 voting system is out the window. If clubs are worried about money over the next 2-3 years why not try and sign a 10 year deal with SKY/ESPN.
Fans have claimed they will attend more matches - will have to see if that happens.

Celtic will have a reduced income but they have players they can sell & have a chance to get in Champions League.

I'm sure there will be less money going around but is there any harm in playing young players & selling them if any look really good.

The important thing for all clubs is to pay the tax man.

just having a chuckle.

rangers entry to the third div is conditional that they dont appeal the transfer embargo and they have not been given full membership but associate membership so they can not vote for 3 years.

Liam
I don't hear anyone is saying being relegated means going bust ...where did you get ths logic from?

What people are saying in the short term clubs will have to make major changes , given it's widely known
that mosts clubs are totally reliant on income from media to balance the books - then they need to plug a hole either by getting more bums in seats - or - make sweepng changes to their own set ups.

ICT have already called for an EGM to discuss the implications of Rangers in the 3rd division.

Strangely enough the demise of Rangers might be very good for the Scottish game. They won't be able to pay fancy wages but have a very strong youth/academy set up. These players will get their chance much earlier than would otherwise have happened.

The inevitable reduction in media money will mean that the SPL sides will have to ditch foreign journeymen and play young Scottish players. Might take a while - 5 years? - but this might just coincide with an upturn in the fortunes of the international side.

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I'm with you on this one festivalfanatic - I'm strangely optimistic about this.

Most of the clubs are going to have to tighten the purse strings and will have to start nurturing young Scottish players instead of paying fortunes for mediocre foreign players.

It's almost getting right back to grass roots ........ which is where everyone seems to lay the blame when the Scotland national side don't qualify for World Cups / Euros

And it will be good for money to filter down to third division clubs, who will have their grounds filled to capacity twice this coming season.

No bookies yet with any odds available..

What's going to happen anyway, given there is a play off system to go up?
Only way I can see this working is best team who missed out from goes up, and then probably same all the way up, OR 1 team goes up from the third, and then P2 doesn't relegate the 2nd lowest placed from div 2, and so on.

Is this still to be worked out I take it?

McBOOKIE.COM is 50s on rangers to win sfl 3, same price celtic to win spl.

McBOOKIE.COM is 50s on rangers to win sfl 3, same price celtic to win spl.

Got to be a Lay of the century 50s on...with no team.....youth players wont win Div3

he only goes 10s any other team to win it

Yaldee
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McBOOKIE.COM is 50s on rangers to win sfl 3, same price celtic to win spl.

Got to be a Lay of the century 50s on...with no team.....youth players wont win Div3

Your bet will probably be voided though.

I have it as even money each of two, 3rd division or year out.

Jul 13, 2012 -- 3:12PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:

starfish and coffee 13 Jul 12 15:07  Its full of part time players, postie's and plumbers etcEnough about the SPL, let's talk about division 3.

WE HAVE ODDS with Paddys 1/14 Newco  and 6 to 1 the field