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thebigp
22 Jun 12 13:19
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Who is starting tonight. Bit of a move on Klose on scorer market...
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Report berto77 June 22, 2012 1:21 PM BST
Bold have reported Klose to start.  Podolski and Mueller on bench as well apparently.
Report berto77 June 22, 2012 1:23 PM BST
Bild (blooming predictive text)
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 1:26 PM BST
Schurle and Reus in aswell??? Are they really likely to make that many changes
Report berto77 June 22, 2012 1:28 PM BST
Don't think Podolski or Muller have played particularly well so far.  Gomez decision looks a bit strange though (if true of course).
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 1:30 PM BST
No but changing the whole front line..... Might not be true, pretty sure everyone said Klose would start the first game not Gomez. Can't see how you could drop Gomez myself
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 1:31 PM BST
Kicker's main headline is that Klose will start.

Their expected lineup:

Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Khedira, Schweinsteiger - T. Müller, Özil, Podolski - Klose
Report md49vd June 22, 2012 1:33 PM BST
RUMOUR IS THAT KLOSE STARTS
Report euanmcc87 June 22, 2012 1:36 PM BST
livescores lising gomez as starting with klose
Report euanmcc87 June 22, 2012 1:36 PM BST
sorry gomez with podolski, no klose
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 1:38 PM BST
I think i'd believe Kicker over livescores


http://www.kicker.de/
Report Torres86 June 22, 2012 1:56 PM BST
Does Bender have a chance of starting?
Report euanmcc87 June 22, 2012 2:03 PM BST
Still would be sceptical about this, can you imagine the reaction if they got put out with podolski muller and gomez all dropped?
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 2:04 PM BST
Kicker aren't usually wrong, so i'd expect the team to be as close to this as possible

Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Khedira, Schweinsteiger - T. Müller, Özil, Podolski - Klose
Report berto77 June 22, 2012 2:08 PM BST
They're all reporting Gomez out, the main rumours about Podolski and Muller come from Bild.  As Biscuit says Kicker are usually reliable so we'll have to wait and see.  Would be seething if I was in Gomez for top scorer though.

Germany's price to qualify and match odds  hasn't moved since these rumours started.
Report euanmcc87 June 22, 2012 2:09 PM BST
They are reporting no podolski or muller either, replaced with Reus, Schürrle and Klose
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 2:09 PM BST
Thats why I asked, I'm on Gomez top scorer
Report berto77 June 22, 2012 2:10 PM BST
Bad luck thebigp.  Can't really work that one out, unless he's got a niggle.
Report euanmcc87 June 22, 2012 2:19 PM BST
Germany have officially came out and said he has no injury but not that he is starting or not, i still dont know if i believe these rumours
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 2:23 PM BST
I could understand them replacing one, but there's no way they'll change their entire front three after winning every game so far
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 2:25 PM BST
Agree far too big a risk to change all 3. Kicker now reporting Klose, Reus and Schurle to play.
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 2:27 PM BST
F*ck me they are as well. Now changed their lineup to this:

Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Khedira, Schweinsteiger - Reus, Özil, Schürrle - Klose


Very bizarre after 3 straight wins.
Report agaz June 22, 2012 2:29 PM BST
Maybe trying to mix it up against a very tight defense?
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 2:33 PM BST
Maybe or they think they can get away with resting players against Greece. They are all decent replacements but a bit arrogant to be resting front 3 in a Euro QF. Doubt these players have ever played together. Imagine the abuse if it goes wrong.
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 2:34 PM BST
Wonder if there's been a training ground row or something.

185 caps and 79 goals between the 3 of them, 3 wins out of 3 and the tournaments top goalscorer..............and you drop them all. If true there must be more to it than simply a 'tactical' change. For a start the new front 3 won't have ever played together.
Report punkha1 June 22, 2012 2:37 PM BST
Found throughout Euro 2012 that nobody in the media knows till the teams are released.
Plenty of wrong teams announced.Would be suprised by this.
Report berto77 June 22, 2012 2:38 PM BST
Can't believe he'd be resting players in the quarters of the Euro's.  Bring them off if you're 2-0 after an hour, but you'd start your strongest team.  Either a row or maybe just a big shake up if he hasn't been happy with their performances (which makes Gomez being dropped genuinely surprising).
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 2:41 PM BST
punkha1 22 Jun 12 14:37 
Found throughout Euro 2012 that nobody in the media knows till the teams are released.
Plenty of wrong teams announced.





Fair comment but Kicker are fairly reliable and well respected. They even own/manage/award the trophy for the Bundesliga's top goalscorer every season. It's not as if they're the Daily Star having a guess.
Report caramba June 22, 2012 2:52 PM BST
shouldn't Germany drift in match odds market because of this?
Report euanmcc87 June 22, 2012 2:54 PM BST
I wouldnt say so, not with Klose goalscoring record at major championships.
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 3:31 PM BST
Klose, Reus and Schurrle all being backed in on the 'to score' market
Report The Magic Flea June 22, 2012 3:43 PM BST
I think the mentality is that he needs someone that can run at a very solid defence, henge Klose instead of Gomez. Gomez is a goalpoacher, but would be very tightly marked. Klose can actually create something from nothing
Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 4:42 PM BST
German media now reporting the team changes. Biscuit, kicker are well known for being behind with line-ups. Check their site on any given Saturday. Klose, Reus and Schuerlle will all start. Had a massive trade on these three.
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 4:46 PM BST
So Kicker were right then?

DIE LINKE - any reasons being given for changing the entire front 3 in such a big game? Bit of a bold move isn't it?
Report The Magic Flea June 22, 2012 4:47 PM BST
Schuerlle, what an unfotunate name Grin
Report kanu200000 June 22, 2012 4:53 PM BST
Probable line-ups:

Germany: Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Schweinsteiger, Khedira - Müller, Özil, Podolski - Gomez

Greece: Sifakis - Torosidis, Papadopoulos, Sokratis, Tzavellas - Katsouranis, Makos, Maniatis - Salpingidis, Samaras - Gekas

http://www.bundesliga.de/en/em2012/news/0000215243.php
Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 4:56 PM BST
Despite the goals Gomez has been criticised for his lack of movement, also taking the blame, rightly or wrongly, for Oezil failing to sparkle. Loew said early this week that he could well imagine Klose starting. Mueller and Podolski simply not been good enough.
Report Biscuit1979 June 22, 2012 4:57 PM BST
Oh to have the Germans problems then, they win all 3 games, top the group with ease and it's not good enough! Laugh
Report JamesC June 22, 2012 4:58 PM BST
Could always be a bluff. Klose was expected to start first game, remember? There was a big move on Klose for golden boot on the first game day.
Report berto77 June 22, 2012 4:59 PM BST
Pretty ruthless selection.  Laurent Blanc must be considering 11 changes by that logic Laugh
Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 5:00 PM BST
Theres no point looking at probable line-ups. Check out Sport 1, ARD and ZDF.
Report asparagus June 22, 2012 6:08 PM BST
Personally i think germany are gambling on keeping players fresh for later in the tournament plus it's always good for replacement players to have had some game time in case they are needed. I'll be surprised if the dropped players are not back for the semi's. The Germans are arrogant enough (a good quality in these circumstances) to believe that they'll win tonight whichever of the front players they choose and then all the front players remain fresh for the tougher games ahead. A gamble but it's all about winning the tournament so in the long term could pay off.
Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 6:11 PM BST
The strength in depth is frightening, Reus, Kroos and Goetze have all had a bit of a moan this week, but then all three would be starters in any other side in the tournament bar Spain.
Report RMB © June 22, 2012 6:12 PM BST

Jun 22, 2012 -- 5:00PM, DIE LINKE wrote:


Theres no point looking at probable line-ups. Check out Sport 1, ARD and ZDF.


Is that the official team, or they're proposed team on sport.de

Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 6:30 PM BST
klose, schuerlle and reus confirmed
Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 6:33 PM BST
also Boateng for bender, obviously.
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 6:35 PM BST
Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Khedira, Schweinsteiger -Reus, Özil, Schürrle - Klose
Report RMB © June 22, 2012 6:35 PM BST
So sport1.de are always right
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 6:35 PM BST
I don't agree with that but maybe it will work out
Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 6:36 PM BST
no mate, but they broke the news this earlier this afternoon.
Report thebigp June 22, 2012 6:38 PM BST
Yea just annoyed as I am on Gomez top scorer. Big gamble to change the front 3 after they have won every game
Report DIE LINKE June 22, 2012 6:42 PM BST
Gomez and Poldi still a lower fs price than their replacements! Laugh
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