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By:
Fantastic Light
When: 14 Jun 12 23:11
Yeah, to hell with betfair is what I say! Jokers! Someone explain why AUQ was only 4.7 on here then on correct score market above 3-3, yet made up rules for scorecast!
By:
Drallis
When: 14 Jun 12 23:11
but marychain  , if  u bet everyday  and have used betfair for 10 years  thenu can almost bet in blind.   Thats  why its shocking  to find out after the game that  they have changed  betting options suddenly in 1 fkin match1.   Just  1 match,  and no other.  like i said,  then they sould put this in the germany - denamrk  macth  who is coming up.  BUt it was only in the spanish game??
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:11
Nicky27, this is my point exactly. Wht didnt i back Torres 4-0. Because 4-0 is AUQ.
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:12
4-0 is not AUQ if 4-0 is quoted. It really isnt that hard to understand imo.
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:13
I bet on scorecast and correct score every day, several times a day and the first thing I noticed when I looked at the market was that 4-0 was quoted.
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:14
Your not being fair marychain. The understanding is that this isnt a regular occurence and as others have said we do this and it is normal.
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:15
Maybe u r looking for good value, we were mearly looking for a reqular bet or something that is familiar.
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:16
Fair? Now it just sounds like you are whinging.

I can understand that it isnt usual. But if there was anything unfair then many people would have been caught out and the prices would have been all over the place. But they weren't. Because everyone else looked at the market, saw that 4-0 and 5-0 were quoted scorelines and therefore not unquoted, and bet accordingly.
By:
Fantastic Light
When: 14 Jun 12 23:16
marychain, the point is some of us trusted betfair to stick to the rules they've alweays used before. And when they've put up stupid scorelines in the past they've had a correct score 2 market! We were mislead, and unfortunately for us trusted the markets to easily. Lesson learned here but frankly I'm very p i s s e d off!
By:
Drallis
When: 14 Jun 12 23:16
IF some of u guys hadnt bet 4-0 and torres i would  never belived betfair,  but of course i know ive read it wrong,  BUt  hope betfair could learn from this and make a scorecast 2    AND  maybe they can put up more score at scorecast  when its  BIg teams  vs small
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:17
But you arent talking about the Correct Score market and the CS2 market. You are talking about the scorecast market.

I've seen them put other scorelines on the scorecast market loads of times.
By:
Baby Jesus
When: 14 Jun 12 23:17
Thing is Percy you bet on 3-0 and any unquoted surely you must have noticed the other scorelines inbetween when placing your bets?
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:18
As fantastic light said on correct score market AUQ is above 3-3 many other scorelines move to a different market. Why wasnt scorecast???????????
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:18
Baby Jesus spot on

Torres 3-0
Torres 4-0
Torres 5-0
Torres unquoted

How can you not see the two lines in between your bets???
By:
nicky27
When: 14 Jun 12 23:19
if 3-3 and above in the correct score market was 4.7 SP and Torres first goalscorer was around 4.5 SP then the 2 combined would equate to 21.0 , so it would imply that 37.0's was too generous for AUQ as 3-3 and above if u see what i mean
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:20
Settled    Ref Id    Placed    Description         Avg. Odds    Stake    Status    DR
(£)    CR
(£)    Balance
(£)   
    2012-06-14
21:41    20450167513     2012-06-14
19:44     Fixtures 14 June Spain v Rep of Ireland / Scorecast / A Iniesta 3 - 0
Back          42.00    5.00    Lost    (5.00)        
    2012-06-14
21:41    20450167509     2012-06-14
19:44     Fixtures 14 June Spain v Rep of Ireland / Scorecast / A Iniesta Any Unquoted
Back          67.00    5.00    Lost    (5.00)        
    2012-06-14
21:41    20450167503     2012-06-14
19:44     Fixtures 14 June Spain v Rep of Ireland / Scorecast / F Torres Any Unquoted
Back          37.90    10.00    Lost    (10.00)        
    2012-06-14
21:41    20450167508     2012-06-14
19:44     Fixtures 14 June Spain v Rep of Ireland / Scorecast / F Torres 3 - 0
Back          26.00    10.00    Lost    (10.00)
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:22
I never placed torres 3-0 and AUQ together. Imerely placed the AUQ looked at others saw iniesta and the rest as they say.
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:22
So how did you manage to put on Torres 3-0 and Torres unquoted without seeing Torres 4-0 and Torres 5-0 that were in between your bets?
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:22
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:25
By the way, the scorelines on a scorecast market never mirror the Correct score market as you seem to be saying.

For Example, in Greece v Russia; Greece 3-2 and 3-3 are not quoted in the Scorecast market, so they count as unquoted.
By:
Baby Jesus
When: 14 Jun 12 23:27
Percy11

I never placed torres 3-0 and AUQ together.


Percy, your account statement suggests you did place them both together especially as both bets were placed @ 19:44 and the betids are only 3 numbers apart Wink

I can understand it being a pain but I've seen Betfair add extra scores than usual in these markets before, it's not the first time.
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:28
Therefore that would of been mt bet as i went to AUQ and would have been extremely surprised that in the result of greece v russia 3-2 or 3-3 i would have won
By:
marychain1
When: 14 Jun 12 23:29
Assuming that unquoted means the same in the Correct Score market, Correct Score 2 market and the scorecast market has led to many Betfair balls ups Percy, dont worry, you arent the first.
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:30

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:27PM, Baby Jesus wrote:


Percy11I never placed torres 3-0 and AUQ together.Percy, your account statement suggests you did place them both together especially as both bets were placed @ 19:44 and the betids are only 3 numbers apart I can understand it being a pain but I've seen Betfair add extra scores than usual in these markets before, it's not the first time.


the timing of the bets are correct 19:44 but i placed the bet on AUQ moed to othe scorecasts, returned to torres 3-0 and because i had little time to place them, added iniesta 3-0 and AUQ

By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:31
what im saying is i didnt go from torres 3-0 to torres AUQ if you see my meaning
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:32

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:29PM, marychain1 wrote:


Assuming that unquoted means the same in the Correct Score market, Correct Score 2 market and the scorecast market has led to many Betfair balls ups Percy, dont worry, you arent the first.


As you said 'balls up' and as i have never seen this before as others have said, it leaves a bad taste.

By:
Baby Jesus
When: 14 Jun 12 23:40
Fair enough, Percy, I guess it's easily done when browsing markets and adding in bets to submit later especially with this stupid new beta format Angry.

It's ridiculous they piss around with known formats of markets, god knows who decided to add extra scores for the Spain game as these markets have been up for a while and none of the other games have 4 goal scorelines in the scorecasts.
By:
Percy11
When: 14 Jun 12 23:45
Thank you for reasoning with me Baby Jesus. Iknow i wont win any argument with Betfair but it helps to come on here and people appreciate a fellow mans dilemaWink
By:
TheChaser
When: 14 Jun 12 23:52
Is this a joke thread
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 15 Jun 12 01:53
sorry, but there's some utter rubbish in this thread.

people are talking as if there's some deception in AUQ not meaning the same in scorecast as in CS. But it NEVER does, and it changes game by game according to the relative strengths of the teams.

eg, tomorrow in the england game, what happens if it's Ibra 3-1 or 3-2? answer: ibra/AUQ pays out. Any Unquoted means what it says: any unquoted in the market you're betting in.

not knowing that means you failed to look at the market carefully enough. that may be unfortunate but it isn't betfair's fault.
By:
maitre
When: 15 Jun 12 02:04
u won cuz it means torres scoring  4th goal and match ending with over 3 goals. Its a winning bet
By:
TheChaser
When: 15 Jun 12 02:07
viva el presidente!
15 Jun 12 01:53 Joined: 10 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 12,608 | Blogger: viva el presidente!'s blog
sorry, but there's some utter rubbish in this thread.

people are talking as if there's some deception in AUQ not meaning the same in scorecast as in CS. But it NEVER does, and it changes game by game according to the relative strengths of the teams.

eg, tomorrow in the england game, what happens if it's Ibra 3-1 or 3-2? answer: ibra/AUQ pays out. Any Unquoted means what it says: any unquoted in the market you're betting in.

not knowing that means you failed to look at the market carefully enough. that may be unfortunate but it isn't betfair's fault.


But its betfairs fault and its unfair Laugh
By:
Percy11
When: 15 Jun 12 18:12
^****in prick^
By:
TheChaser
When: 15 Jun 12 18:13
Laugh
By:
kenilworth
When: 15 Jun 12 18:18
Do people actually bet on these scorecast/first goalscorer things
and then don't know whether they have won or lost ?
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 15 Jun 12 18:50
group hug for percys p/l imminent Plain
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