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shaund10
05 Jun 12 22:53
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3/1 joint favs on Germany must be one of the most ridiculous prices of the year. Quite what the side has done to warrant being 3's favs alongside the reigning World and European champions is beyond me. The WC runners up are more than double their price and have arguably more talented players. A lot of Germany's players have had tough seasons also and may be spent at this stage.

Everyone seems to be tipping them, or backing them. They are seen as the 'clever' bet, as people don't want to be obvious in picking Spain. Do people realise that when tipping up Germany they are not tipping some dark horse, they are actually practically tipping the favourite? I understand people often latch onto a fashionable alternative, but this has got out of hand.

They are a good young side and may well go onto win. But their proper price is 5/1 or 11/2, not 3's. Can't understand how anyone can take them at that price

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By:
tobermory
When: 05 Jun 12 22:58
Agree.
By:
themover
When: 05 Jun 12 22:58
you vill be shot
By:
donny osmond
When: 05 Jun 12 23:01
never write off ze germans but their current price is less value than englands, indeed i might prefer snapping up greek debt rather than putting money on germany
By:
BoxFresh
When: 05 Jun 12 23:23
Rep of ireland for me.
By:
TheHunk
When: 05 Jun 12 23:27
Wont get outve the group.
By:
erogenous_zone
When: 05 Jun 12 23:29
By:
BoxFresh
When: 05 Jun 12 23:43
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 05 Jun 12 23:59
Boateng - looked hopeless at City
Mertesacker - turns about as quick as a cross channel ferry
Schweinsteiger - been carrying an injury for most of the season and hasn't played in their recent friendlies
Muller - scored in the CL final but has been out of form since xmas
Gomez - needs at least 5 chances to score

Probably still make the final though!!
By:
henok
When: 06 Jun 12 00:04
i think german are overrated
By:
Glossy
When: 06 Jun 12 00:07
Mertesacker won't start. Hommels and Badstuber will.
Lahm - best full back in the world.
Ozil - one of the world's top creative midfielders.
Podolski & Klose - proven tournament performers.
Neuer - arguably world's best keeper right now.
Schweinsteiger & Khederia - great defensive midfield partnership.

I agree that 3/1 isn't value but I have them down as winners all day long.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 06 Jun 12 00:07
Interestingly enough the sound judges have this German squad down as the best in decades. Have a look at the squad from the last world cup and see how much better it is.
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jun 12 00:10
They are very good, but can't see how they are on the same level as Spain or how they are much better than Holland
By:
Glossy
When: 06 Jun 12 00:14
...and I've not even mentioned the young players like Gotze, Kroos, Reus and Schuerrle. This squad has serious depth.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 06 Jun 12 00:16
more depth than Linda Lovelace, mate
By:
smemon87
When: 06 Jun 12 00:21
The thing about the germans is that you just know they'll grind out results even if they don't perform. They'll make it in to the knock out stages for sure and at that stage it's all about calm heads and patience...

They may not be able to out-play a Holland or Spain for example but they could easily take anyone to extra time and penalties so if they make it beyond the group stages, you're gonna be sweating big time if you've layed them from the start.

I'd have them level with Holland myself as 2nd favs behind Spain but you're right... they are pretty hyped. Would still take a brave man to lay them at 4.4 though...
By:
HorseRacingExpert
When: 06 Jun 12 00:24
I will be bumping this thread after the mighty germans win the euros
By:
curious8
When: 06 Jun 12 00:26
This is the most gifted Germany side since 1996 but also with the weakest winning  mentality.
They do not have enough confidence and winning mentality to play in big matches.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 06 Jun 12 00:27
I wish everyone who thinks Gomez is shyte would put their money where their mouths are and get laying him for top scorer. I've got thousands tied up on him and I want to back back at 14/1+
By:
Glossy
When: 06 Jun 12 00:28
What are you basing this on curious8?
By:
shaund10
When: 06 Jun 12 00:34
HorseRacingExpert
06 Jun 12 00:24 Joined: 20 May 12 | Topic/replies: 545 | Blogger: HorseRacingExpert's blog
I will be bumping this thread after the mighty germans win the euros


I fully agree that this could well happen. They have a chance, but that doesnt stop the 3/1 or 4.4 being ridiculously bad value. You could get Spain at 10/3 at the weekend, which made Germany Favs. That's just wrong. Germany could well win, but they should be 11/2 and i'll be saying the same even if they run out winners.

Plenty of people like Germany this year, but if they are disciplined they'll acknowledge that they simply aren't a punting proposition at 3's
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 06 Jun 12 00:38
I agree that 10/3 isn't great value, i prefer Holland at 7/1. But 11/2 is a poorhouse price.
By:
Stringer
When: 06 Jun 12 00:41
They are very good, but can't see how they are on the same level as Spain or how they are much better than Holland

spain without puyol and villa, xavi carrying a knock, and they don't look as cohesive as they did in 2010

germany should be favs

THAT IS ALL.
By:
HorseRacingExpert
When: 06 Jun 12 00:43
all on germany please

By:
Stringer
When: 06 Jun 12 00:45
^ this guy has the right idea Cool
By:
neill d
When: 06 Jun 12 00:50
Agree with OP, their subs bench is more talented than their starting 11.
By:
hearts1874
When: 06 Jun 12 00:53
pfffffffffft, get on spain, no worries on this one SAFE BETLove
By:
Stringer
When: 06 Jun 12 00:53
2 mugs ^
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 06 Jun 12 00:55
anyone who thinks Holland are more talented than Germany hasn't been doing their homework.
By:
aaronh
When: 06 Jun 12 01:06
if Stringer's tipping them Germans are doomed
By:
Stringer
When: 06 Jun 12 01:12
yawn
By:
aaronh
When: 06 Jun 12 01:17
Devil
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jun 12 01:24
I suppose they must be feeling confident as they haven't 'Aryanized' as many Poles etc in the last couple of years as they were doing a while ago
By:
Stringer
When: 06 Jun 12 01:28
david silva is a great player

but spain are worse with him imo

infact i wouldn't be surprised if they struggle to make it out of the group

Cool
By:
JrSk
When: 06 Jun 12 06:32
Netherlands v Germany in the final. 10/1
By:
Redford_Blade
When: 06 Jun 12 08:28
Who would meet Spain, Germany or Netherlands?
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 06 Jun 12 08:37
tobermory
06 Jun 12 01:24

I suppose they must be feeling confident as they haven't 'Aryanized' as many Poles etc in the last couple of years as they were doing a while ago


I did have you down as one of the more knowledgeable posters on here, but you have shown your ignorance there. Both Klose and Podolski are from Silesia and everyone with a modicum of education knows about the history of this region.
By:
play45
When: 06 Jun 12 10:14
My advice - Insider:
I am german and i think that spain will be kicked by netherlands in half final.
The other half final will be france/italy and germany. I think final will be netherlands against france or germany.
One of the biggest cracking bets is Marco Reus topscorer 2012.
odds 210 !!! He will play as second striker with Klose.
Gomez is done and will not have much playtime - dont bet on him.
Reus is a great technical player and shoot many goals this season. he was the shooting star.
Chelsea wanted him to sign a contract, bayern munich too, but he signed in Dortmund for next season.
He could become the same important player as Müller was - World Cup 2010.
Coach Löw thrust in him too.
Thats me advices to you. You dont have to bet on it, but i will help you.
By:
jasey
When: 06 Jun 12 13:08
only a couple of spanish players would get into germanys team,(villa and puyol maybe but they are out).
thats why germany will win.
the only downside for germany backers,is if that usless lanky streak of piss starts
By:
anfeild
When: 06 Jun 12 13:36
only a couple of spanish players would get into germanys team,(villa and puyol maybe but they are out).

Most stupid statement i have ever read on the betfair forum. Xavi/Iniesta would make and team. Both would be in a world eleven you muppet.
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