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Another hard one to call, but Cheltenham finished higher
than Crewe in the league, as the outsider in the betting
I favour them at 3.15 +, on 90 mins or 2.20+ DNB. simply
because of the market.
than Crewe in the league, as the outsider in the betting
I favour them at 3.15 +, on 90 mins or 2.20+ DNB. simply
because of the market.
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My initial feeling was Crewe, since Cheltenham's recent away form is very poor (even allowing for win in semi at Torquay, who were also totally out-of-form), however, i don't see much value in the current price. Hot weather will probably be a factor though, and a low scoring match likely which may mean draw is best value.
away form? aint they both playing away as there playing at wembley 
Yes i know its at Wembley, comparing away form of the two Chelts is poorer in comparison.
Agree on the hot weather thing, these unfit plumbers and postmen will be crawling around. Unders looks nailed on
remember the hdderfield vs shefield utd game, no goals end up 0-0. So when u all predict goals in this game, what assumption u all based on ? 
because both sides boast goalmouth predators,foxes in the boxes,johnny goalhangers...
anyone got a link to watch the game?
i live in Cheltenham, we were top of the league in February and almost didnt make the playoffs, luckily managed to stabilise our form to hold on for the playoffs, whereas Crewe came from a long way off to make the playoffs in the last couple games. So Crewe definately have the better form, Crewe also beat Southend which in my opinion was the best team in it. Crewe also beat Cheltenham 1-0 at home a couple of weeks ago in the League
The odds are about right, my heart would back Cheltenham as the underdog, as this is one game. My head is betting on 1+ goals in the first half (not exciting i know)
i live in Cheltenham, we were top of the league in February and almost didnt make the playoffs, luckily managed to stabilise our form to hold on for the playoffs, whereas Crewe came from a long way off to make the playoffs in the last couple games. So Crewe definately have the better form, Crewe also beat Southend which in my opinion was the best team in it. Crewe also beat Cheltenham 1-0 at home a couple of weeks ago in the League
The odds are about right, my heart would back Cheltenham as the underdog, as this is one game. My head is betting on 1+ goals in the first half (not exciting i know)
May 27, 2012 -- 3:09PM, Mystery_Man007 wrote:if ever there was a 0-0 game, this is the one
no more 0-0
Cheers Nick-that helps me big time on a couple of punts...
May 27, 2012 -- 3:09PM, Mystery_Man007 wrote:
if ever there was a 0-0 game, this is the one
he does it again! Goal in 15 minutes! Epic !!!
33 minutes and even the ref is asking for water... these guys are going to struggle big time in the 2H
hope so. Mystery will be happy. He helped a lot in his previous life. I wish him all the best.
That Defending from Crewe there was out of this world ....Just Brilliant
Great match funnily enough ,....Thought it would have been terrible with a couple of league 2 teams but I am surprised 
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLL GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GOALLLLLLL
well done to Crewe, Cheltenham will walk away with alot of regrets, hit the crossbar with a screamer, two amazing shots cleared off the line, muhammed who would find it easier to score than hit above the bar (twice) and a one on one with he keeper, hit straight at him
Overall Cheltenham have had the better chances, but havnt taken them, their own fault!
Overall Cheltenham have had the better chances, but havnt taken them, their own fault!
Why what happened???
6 mins injury time
Wonder if Pullien had a dutch on 1, 2,3,4,5 mins added time?
Wonder if Pullien had a dutch on 1, 2,3,4,5 mins added time?
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Amazing day out yesterday, and the right result. Felt a bit sorry for Cheltenham as they gave it everything but made up for the players and team. I went to Plymouth away at the start of September and we were bottom of the league at that stage. To end the season 19 unbeaten and to win at Wembley with a team of Academy graduates is something really special.
It will be a few days until my voice comes back but for now I'm just grinning from ear to ear.
It will be a few days until my voice comes back but for now I'm just grinning from ear to ear.
it's a shame tho isnt it that a growing team ..and a good one, will prob lose some of the best players to the 'bigger' clubs, so that promotion may turn out to be a waste of time if u lose them and then struggle in the higher division, if only u could keep them all and thered be a chance of back to back promotions.
Haha, How to piss on someone's fireworks!! can you not let them celebrate for more than a few hours?!
course they should celebrate, its my admiration of this group of players which has prompted me to post, its more a seethe that the bigger clubs will ruin them
marychain - congratulations mate, you're a proper football supporter.
Tony broke - i don't think it's a case of the bigger clubs ruining them, clubs of Crewe's size need to sell to survive, it's what they rely on. Selling someone like Powell for 3-4m probably pays to keep their academy going for another couple of years which in turn could help them to churn out another bunch of first teamers.
Tony broke - i don't think it's a case of the bigger clubs ruining them, clubs of Crewe's size need to sell to survive, it's what they rely on. Selling someone like Powell for 3-4m probably pays to keep their academy going for another couple of years which in turn could help them to churn out another bunch of first teamers.
Fair enough Tony, wouldnt it be great if there really was a chance that a team like Crewe, with a fantastic youth development programme could rise through the divisions....
Incidentally, since Crewe continually produce a wealth of talent through their youth programme and must operate on a very small percentage of the budget of even the smaller Permiership teams - why doesnt someone either copy the entire set up or poach all their staff?
in comparison with some of the transfer fees thrown around this would still be peanuts surely?
PS - I hope this never happens, but just tryiong to work out why the big $$ seems to ignore.
Incidentally, since Crewe continually produce a wealth of talent through their youth programme and must operate on a very small percentage of the budget of even the smaller Permiership teams - why doesnt someone either copy the entire set up or poach all their staff?
in comparison with some of the transfer fees thrown around this would still be peanuts surely?
PS - I hope this never happens, but just tryiong to work out why the big $$ seems to ignore.
@watchit ha ha ha ha ha - very good, not a bitter Vale fan by any chance are we?
9 of the 11 that played were academy graduates, and none of them would even be there if it wasnt for Dario. He isnt even moderately well paid compared to most in football, and has done an amazing job. He could easily have got far more money with some of the offers he has turned down. He has stayed because he loves the club, for no other reason.
@Tony Broke, it's right that players will always move on, but that is the way of the world. The great thing is, now the academy is back in full swing even people like Nick Powell arent irreplaceable. We have Max Clayton and Shaun Miller, two more extremely highly rated academy graduates, waiting in the wings for a game. Clayton played with Powell in the England u-18s and from what we've seen so far could be at least as good. Miller scored 25 goals for us last season and in the first two months of this one before being injured and losing his place to Powell and AJ Leitch-Smith. Those two will do us proud in League 1, and the Powell cash will keep the academy going for a few years.
@fibonacci, Steve Holland, who was in charge of Crewe's academy for years before an unsuccessful spell as manager when Dario first stood down, is now assistant manager at Chelsea.
9 of the 11 that played were academy graduates, and none of them would even be there if it wasnt for Dario. He isnt even moderately well paid compared to most in football, and has done an amazing job. He could easily have got far more money with some of the offers he has turned down. He has stayed because he loves the club, for no other reason.
@Tony Broke, it's right that players will always move on, but that is the way of the world. The great thing is, now the academy is back in full swing even people like Nick Powell arent irreplaceable. We have Max Clayton and Shaun Miller, two more extremely highly rated academy graduates, waiting in the wings for a game. Clayton played with Powell in the England u-18s and from what we've seen so far could be at least as good. Miller scored 25 goals for us last season and in the first two months of this one before being injured and losing his place to Powell and AJ Leitch-Smith. Those two will do us proud in League 1, and the Powell cash will keep the academy going for a few years.
@fibonacci, Steve Holland, who was in charge of Crewe's academy for years before an unsuccessful spell as manager when Dario first stood down, is now assistant manager at Chelsea.
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