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FIFA president Sepp Blatter has labelled penalty shoot-outs "a tragedy" and challenged Franz Beckenbauer to come up with an alternative.
Beckenbauer, honorary president of Bayern Munich, is also head of the Football Task Force 2014 which has been charged with recommending rule changes and Blatter said the body should now look at penalty shoot-outs.
Blatter told the FIFA Congress in Budapest: "Football can be a tragedy when you go to penalty kicks. Football should not go to one to one, when it goes to penalty kicks football loses its essence. Perhaps Franz Beckenbauer with his football 2014 group can show us a solution perhaps not today but in the future."
Two major tournaments last season were decided by shoot-outs - Chelsea's Champions League triumph over Bayern Munich and the African Cup of Nations when Zambia beat Ivory Coast.
Meanwhile, the decision on the introduction of goal-line technology is now expected to take place in Zurich in July rather than the day after the Euro 2012 final in Kiev.
The International FA Board had been due to meet in the Ukraine capital on July 2 but instead the meeting has been rescheduled for July 5 in Zurich due to logistical issues in organising the meeting so soon after the climax of the tournament.
Tests are being carried out on two goal-line systems including an experiment on the Hawkeye system at England v Belgium at Wembley next month.
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has labelled penalty shoot-outs "a tragedy" and challenged Franz Beckenbauer to come up with an alternative.
Beckenbauer, honorary president of Bayern Munich, is also head of the Football Task Force 2014 which has been charged with recommending rule changes and Blatter said the body should now look at penalty shoot-outs.
Blatter told the FIFA Congress in Budapest: "Football can be a tragedy when you go to penalty kicks. Football should not go to one to one, when it goes to penalty kicks football loses its essence. Perhaps Franz Beckenbauer with his football 2014 group can show us a solution perhaps not today but in the future."
Two major tournaments last season were decided by shoot-outs - Chelsea's Champions League triumph over Bayern Munich and the African Cup of Nations when Zambia beat Ivory Coast.
Meanwhile, the decision on the introduction of goal-line technology is now expected to take place in Zurich in July rather than the day after the Euro 2012 final in Kiev.
The International FA Board had been due to meet in the Ukraine capital on July 2 but instead the meeting has been rescheduled for July 5 in Zurich due to logistical issues in organising the meeting so soon after the climax of the tournament.
Tests are being carried out on two goal-line systems including an experiment on the Hawkeye system at England v Belgium at Wembley next month.
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If a drwa after ninety minutes, play extra time and take a player off each team every three minutes until a golden goal. Will be much fairer.
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just let blatter choose the winner. seems to be want he's after.
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sepp seething an english team won
 why don't bayern just look in a mirror. they had 30 shots and scored 1 goal. that's not bad luck, it's sh1t. |
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so in short sepp btwatter was gutted chelsea won
sooner this buffoon retires the better which ever way a game ends will be bad for some individual i think penalty shoot outs are great |
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i think there is a few people calling for an end to Sepp Blatter
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If only everyone would call for an end to Sepp Blatter
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Blatter has called for this before it is all hot air, it won't be changed.
Obviously he will say it again when a team parks the bus and ends up winning. Good to see the paranoid little Englanders come out every time an idea Blatter/Platini has is actually reported in the even more xenophobic English press.  |
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It's all very well him wanting it changed but realistically there is no other decent way of sorting it.
He tried golden goal and that didn't really work. Next we'll have players dribbling from halfway to try and score like in ice hockey? Penalties have been around for decades, everyone knows it, everyone gets on with it, it doesn't really need changing. |
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Personally I think penalty shoot outs are great entertainment.........and no matter which way you look at any match, a draw WILL occur 28% of the time.
However, should the powers that be decide that penalty shootouts are to be phased out, then the only logical solution to me would be having the draw favour one side by means of other reasons such as numbers of red or yellow cards picked up in previous games, or maybe diving offences picked up by the TV cameras or something similar etc. At least both teams will go into a final knowing that a draw favours one or the other.... |
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Decide it like cricket, end of 90 + ET and let the statistics decide it.
You spend 120mins defending, you lose on basis of attacking superiority stats. Everyone has to play at some stage for the goal and everyone on +2.5 goals wins! |
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The only decent thing i can suggest in the way of penalties is to perhaps take them BEFORE extra time, so that there's not so much pressure on the poor sod that misses. His team have got 30 minutes to turn it round. The other side to that is obviously the team that wins the shoot out might then go all defensive during extra time. So probably not much better really, there's problems with any way.
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go to the judges cards
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Crossbar challenge for me
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play extra time with no offside rule
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There should be at least a replay at at neutral
venue, the following Tuesday or Wednesday, and if still level after two matches + 2 bouts of extra time, joint winners. It's not necessary to have an artificial winner. |
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it is neccesary for a team to get knocked out in a knockout competition though ken, penaltys arent just for finals.
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Should be a replay, and if still equal,
joint winners. I don't think it's necessary to have an artificially created winner. |
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Joint winners!!
How does that solve the problem? |
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Schedules are packed enough as it is, you can't go adding more games.
When would they have fitted a replay in for Real v Bayern? How would your joint winners theory work in a play off final? You can't promote 2 sides. What about a world cup semi final? No time for replays, and you can't have joint winners as 1 side needs to go through. |
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Should be a replay, and if still equal,
joint winners. I don't think it's necessary to have an artificially created winner. Are you one of the parents that believes everyone should get a medal for taking part on kid's sports days and no one should win? |
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As highlighted pens are the best solution to an unsolvable problem. That stats idea sounds appealing but then you'll get teams pinging shots from the half way line or holding the ball in the corner so they swing in their favour
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Has it crossed anyone's mind that the Final is the
only round in the CL when the protagonists play each other just once ? Much more chance of getting a result by playing 2 matches rather than one, don't you think ? BTW what will happen in the Olympics in the event of a dead heat in one of the finals ? It could happen. |
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why not stick the ball 20 yards from goal and let teams take a shot against a full defence, give them 20 seconds to score
then the other team gets a go at least it will take a bit of skill (or lucky deflection) to win it |
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biscuit, you mention other situations but we are talking
about the the Champions League final, not who gets promoted, in the playoffs, also perhaps they should consider reducing the rounds played these days. I can remember when it was a proper European Cup, not as now when when the finalists play 13 games now. They manage to sqeeze all the extra games to accomodate all the dead wood theses days that didn't exist a few years ago. BTW How many penalty shoot outs have there been in the last say, 5 years ? |
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"BTW what will happen in the Olympics in
the event of a dead heat in one of the finals ? It could happen" Then it goes to penalties. I got the feeling Blatter was talking about football generally though, not just for the Champions league final. Not many world cup finals have gone to pens (think only 2 in history) but quite a few CL finals do, although that's probably down to there being 1 every year as opposed to 4 years. |
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so football has been losing it's essence for about 25 years
, and he's just realised it? the man is a complete and utter c@nt. |
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All those calling for a replay, thats fine for cup knockouts. But the reason penalties were brought in were to stop 3 and 4 legged quarter finals.
okay, that might not be completely true but multiple replays were abolished in 1990. I suppose being born in 1989 means that the idea of this is more alien than anyone who was around to see it. But the idea of a final replay is ridiculous. The amount of organisation for one final is huge, if it was replayed in the same city there would be positives such as more money spent in the city but the disruption caused is huge too (any boost to the local economy will probably have to be spent on security and extra policing. Imagine if you had tickets for the CL or WC final. This ticket, whether your team was in it or not would be the absolute pinnacle of your football viewing pleasure. You have a seat in the house to see who is crowned the Champions of Club football, or Europe, or the World..... ...but oh no, it ended in a draw. 80,000 other fukcers get to see the winners live in front of their eyes. What is so wrong with penalties? You have your chances in a game, if you get to the final, get through extra time, you haven't done the job- take the pressure of thousands watching you, you take a large enough pay cheque home. Penalties are exciting for the neutral. They are tense for those with their team involved and someone has to be disappointed in the end, whether its from 12 yards or not. |
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i've been to two replayed finals having been to the original game, and i promise you it's a logistical, and financial nightmare.
can you imagine if last saturdays game had been replayed on tuesday?empty planes coming back to london sunday /monday. nowhere near enough planes to get everybody home after the replay. the only good thing would have been more fans would have seen the game because none of the corporate ponces would be there. but what would you do if the replay was drawn????? |
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They used to have Cup final replays, why did they
stop them ? The Champions League used to be called The European Cup and was confined to Champions of the top leagues in the different European countries, which ensured that it was won by a country's champion, not by a side that finished as low as 4th in their respective League, why did they change that ? Truth is, their is nothing they can do different if they want a Champion on the night of the final. They are stuck with it, like it or not. |
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They used to have Cup final replays, why did they
stop them ? The Champions League used to be called The European Cup and was confined to Champions of the top leagues in the different European countries, which ensured that it was won by a country's champion, not by a side that finished as low as 4th in their respective League, why did they change that ? Truth is, their is nothing they can do different if they want a Champion on the night of the final. They are stuck with it, like it or not. |
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in the event of a tie, shots to goal ratio declares the winner
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The most obvious is endless extra times til a winner is found, works in nhl ice hockey, no problem there
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adopt an "duckworth lewis" method, like they do in cricket.
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Penalties are imperfect but it's the best system. Wouldn't oppose a change to running in at goal from halfway, but anything else is highly unappealing.
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The problem is caused because football is a sport
with a low scoring rate producing 3 very possible result. Impossible to solve perfectly, as the result not wanted, a draw, can almost be fav at times. |
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they should have the penalty shoot outs before they play extra time and award a 0.5 goal lead to theam that wins the shootout.
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I don't like the idea of stats - would make it too technical. Everything needs to be simple to understand.
I don't like the idea of penalties before the game - would affect how the teams play and most of the time would be a waste of time. I definitely favour the idea of taking off a player every 5 minutes. That would let the best players shine in more and more space. Imagine it getting down to the 5-a-side! Superb entertainment. |
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in the states in the 70,s they used to have a 35 yard run up, one on one player vs keeper. was more emphasis on skill and finishing. goalie could come off his line too. so better test than pens. was entertaining as well.
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