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16 May 12
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henok are u massively green on this market its been crazy?
henok are u massively green on this market its been crazy?
i am green in all selections with the AVB having the biggest green. that said i dont rely on news, i simply take value bets
i am green in all selections with the AVB having the biggest green. that said i dont rely on news, i simply take value bets
Liverpool playrs react to Dalglish sacking
childish but funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38EV8OHgkE&sns=em
childish but funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38EV8OHgkE&sns=em
well played mate. i plied into martinez when the news first game out expecting odds to drop only to find sky sports saying more candidates will be interviwed. i have been digging myself out of a hole since then but have layed martinez heavily at 3 and now he's 5 so happy days.
i love liverpool FC
i love liverpool FC
im red on martinez and rodgers.
neither really have a chance.
imo the manager is already known just they couldnt release the name for fear of a "back stabbing" jibe towards the new man.
neither really have a chance.
imo the manager is already known just they couldnt release the name for fear of a "back stabbing" jibe towards the new man.
lenniegolden
A good, well-reasoned post, in amongst all the fluff
A good, well-reasoned post, in amongst all the fluff
this already looks like it could turn into one of the all time great NM markets
If you can't make money in this market, I reckon you should give up! Every Manager who is being interviewed will go short. It's a dream market.
dont think they'll be doing the amount of interviews they expected. Rodgers was right, not many managers with decent jobs are going to alieanate their fans and clubs for a 10% chance of getting the Liverpool gig. I think one decent interview by AVB and the job is his.
i thin avb shortened because there was an article on dailymail about fans protesting towards owners inclination for Martinez.
do u think the price will remain unaffected between AVBs and martinzes interview , provided that there is no information leakage from whoever gets the first interview.
Only one man in the frame Martinez he already has the job the problem now is selling it to the fans the Americans where quite shocked when there was such a backlash to his being on the list nevermind the job itself they will wait for all the names to rule themselves out of the job and say he was the best available to us at the time just as they did with Hodgson and expect Martinez to last just as long before they move for a save pair of hands Rafa
the problem that the likes of martinez and rodgers would have that an established top manager wouldn't ,is that they will get little respect from the players, when things go wrong the players would pretty much think ...who the feck are you anyway!!
Latest Betting
5/4 R.Martinez
3/1 AVB
10/1 Fabio Capello
12/1 Benitez
12/1 Brendan Roers
14/1 Louis Van Gall
20/1 bar
5/4 R.Martinez
3/1 AVB
10/1 Fabio Capello
12/1 Benitez
12/1 Brendan Roers
14/1 Louis Van Gall
20/1 bar
Darlo Bantam 21 May 12 03:12
Some clown(s) has actually backed Roy Hodgson!
that is funny
Some clown(s) has actually backed Roy Hodgson!
that is funny
I still say Deschamps makes the most sense. Worn out his welcome in Marseille and is almost sure to leave this summer. On paper ticks most of the boxes, at current prices got to be a decent bet. AVB the other obvious, to me, candidate.
I honestly can't see Martinez getting the job purely on fan reaction. Even if he was their top choice they are going to have bold to give it to him now after the very negative reaction.
I honestly can't see Martinez getting the job purely on fan reaction. Even if he was their top choice they are going to have bold to give it to him now after the very negative reaction.
give it to the man who has made his own ipad coaching app ffs
Louis Van Gall ODDS TODAY
33/1-25/1-16/1-14/1-10/1-6/1-4/1- 3/1
33/1-25/1-16/1-14/1-10/1-6/1-4/1- 3/1
Liverpool owners cool their interest in André Villas-Boas
• Former Chelsea manager not approached for interview
• Louis van Gaal offered sporting director role
Andy Hunter
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 23 May 2012
The prospect of André Villas-Boas becoming Liverpool manager has receded after the club's owners, who have offered Louis van Gaal the position of sporting director, cooled their interest in the 34-year-old.
Villas-Boas has been a frontrunner for the Anfield vacancy following Kenny Dalglish's sacking last Wednesday and hoped to hold formal talks with the principal owner, John W Henry, and the chairman, Tom Werner, as the Liverpool hierarchy settle on a shortlist for the post. The former Porto and Chelsea manager, however, has not been approached for an interview. While his candidacy cannot be discounted completely, he has seen his prospects diminish amid interest from Fenway Sports Group in Roberto Martínez, Brendan Rodgers and possibly the man they wish to oversee a new managerial structure at Liverpool, Van Gaal.
The Portuguese coach, who guided Porto to a league and Europa League double in his one season in charge before suffering an ill-fated spell at Chelsea, had made it known he was keen on Liverpool only to insist on Sunday that he was "still choosing the right project and that decision will take the necessary time". It has also been suggested that Villas-Boas knows a second failed stint in English football would cause irreparable damage to his career at the highest level, although his agent, Carlo Goncalves, has not ruled out a move to Anfield.
Roma have also approached Villas-Boas since he was sacked by Chelsea in March but are also keen on their former striker, now Catania coach, Vincenzo Montella. Goncalves said: "Liverpool and Roma? Well, what we are looking for is a [club with a] strong technical plan, that is solid and durable. Villas-Boas would like to return to coaching in these conditions, but if these conditions are not available, we would have no problems not working. I won't confirm or deny contacts with specific clubs. What we are interested in is a technical project, its outlook and a situation that has longevity."
Goncalves's words may fit with FSG's proposed vision for Liverpool but the new management structure envisaged at Anfield is still being put in place. Van Gaal has been offered a senior role at Anfield and, though he has not called time on his own managerial career and may ask to be considered as a potential replacement for Dalglish, is believed to be close to accepting the position of sporting director.
Martínez remains a candidate for the managerial vacancy and has held informal talks with Liverpool since they were granted permission to approach the Wigan Athletic manager last week. He has not met Henry and Werner in Boston for a formal interview and that process is unlikely to commence before the weekend. Martínez is on holiday in the Caribbean.
Another possibility for manager remains Rodgers, despite his public rejection of the offer of an interview last Friday. The Swansea City manager declined Liverpool's invitation on the basis he had no wish to be part of an extensive list that would then be whittled down, particularly as his work at the Liberty Stadium should be clear to FSG. Rodgers may be tempted if it was clear he was on Liverpool's shortlist and FSG are understood to be still interested in the 39-year-old.
• Former Chelsea manager not approached for interview
• Louis van Gaal offered sporting director role
Andy Hunter
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 23 May 2012
The prospect of André Villas-Boas becoming Liverpool manager has receded after the club's owners, who have offered Louis van Gaal the position of sporting director, cooled their interest in the 34-year-old.
Villas-Boas has been a frontrunner for the Anfield vacancy following Kenny Dalglish's sacking last Wednesday and hoped to hold formal talks with the principal owner, John W Henry, and the chairman, Tom Werner, as the Liverpool hierarchy settle on a shortlist for the post. The former Porto and Chelsea manager, however, has not been approached for an interview. While his candidacy cannot be discounted completely, he has seen his prospects diminish amid interest from Fenway Sports Group in Roberto Martínez, Brendan Rodgers and possibly the man they wish to oversee a new managerial structure at Liverpool, Van Gaal.
The Portuguese coach, who guided Porto to a league and Europa League double in his one season in charge before suffering an ill-fated spell at Chelsea, had made it known he was keen on Liverpool only to insist on Sunday that he was "still choosing the right project and that decision will take the necessary time". It has also been suggested that Villas-Boas knows a second failed stint in English football would cause irreparable damage to his career at the highest level, although his agent, Carlo Goncalves, has not ruled out a move to Anfield.
Roma have also approached Villas-Boas since he was sacked by Chelsea in March but are also keen on their former striker, now Catania coach, Vincenzo Montella. Goncalves said: "Liverpool and Roma? Well, what we are looking for is a [club with a] strong technical plan, that is solid and durable. Villas-Boas would like to return to coaching in these conditions, but if these conditions are not available, we would have no problems not working. I won't confirm or deny contacts with specific clubs. What we are interested in is a technical project, its outlook and a situation that has longevity."
Goncalves's words may fit with FSG's proposed vision for Liverpool but the new management structure envisaged at Anfield is still being put in place. Van Gaal has been offered a senior role at Anfield and, though he has not called time on his own managerial career and may ask to be considered as a potential replacement for Dalglish, is believed to be close to accepting the position of sporting director.
Martínez remains a candidate for the managerial vacancy and has held informal talks with Liverpool since they were granted permission to approach the Wigan Athletic manager last week. He has not met Henry and Werner in Boston for a formal interview and that process is unlikely to commence before the weekend. Martínez is on holiday in the Caribbean.
Another possibility for manager remains Rodgers, despite his public rejection of the offer of an interview last Friday. The Swansea City manager declined Liverpool's invitation on the basis he had no wish to be part of an extensive list that would then be whittled down, particularly as his work at the Liberty Stadium should be clear to FSG. Rodgers may be tempted if it was clear he was on Liverpool's shortlist and FSG are understood to be still interested in the 39-year-old.
"What we are interested in is a technical project, its outlook and a situation that has longevity.".....what a load of old waffle. What he means is he wants to manage at a club which has enough money to give him a good chance of winning trophies, and he doesn't want to get sacked quickly again. AVB (and his agent) is such a pretentious tw@t.
I wouldnt be surprised if the reason that they dont need AVB in for an interview is because they have already had him in for an interview.
Get on Van Gall while you can 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4333063/Liverpool-want-Louis-van-Gaal-as-boss.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/villasboas-out-of-contention-as-liverpool-have-second-thoughts-7782690.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4333063/Liverpool-want-Louis-van-Gaal-as-boss.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/villasboas-out-of-contention-as-liverpool-have-second-thoughts-7782690.html
martinez meeting with owners in next 36 hours according to sky
I think Fenway will offer Martinez the job and he will accept.
I hope he is prepared for the transition, and please excuse the analogy, from driving a fiat punto in a deserted supermarket carpark to a 25 ton articulated lorry that is on an icy road.
I hope he is prepared for the transition, and please excuse the analogy, from driving a fiat punto in a deserted supermarket carpark to a 25 ton articulated lorry that is on an icy road.
Latest on the gaffer:
Whelan: “But hand on heart, I still believe Roberto will be here next season.” - “Roberto will be in Barbados until next Tuesday, and I will then set a seven-day deadline by which time I will expect a decision,”
Whelan: “But hand on heart, I still believe Roberto will be here next season.” - “Roberto will be in Barbados until next Tuesday, and I will then set a seven-day deadline by which time I will expect a decision,”
Latest on the gaffer:
Whelan: “But hand on heart, I still believe Roberto will be here next season.” - “Roberto will be in Barbados until next Tuesday, and I will then set a seven-day deadline by which time I will expect a decision,”
Whelan: “But hand on heart, I still believe Roberto will be here next season.” - “Roberto will be in Barbados until next Tuesday, and I will then set a seven-day deadline by which time I will expect a decision,”
What has RM done to justify the job at LFC?
I mean if Wigan went down last season would he be in contention? Of course he wouldnt, so 5 games where he stumbled upon a formation and got lucky now could get him one of the biggest jobs in world football. WTF. Madness.
I mean if Wigan went down last season would he be in contention? Of course he wouldnt, so 5 games where he stumbled upon a formation and got lucky now could get him one of the biggest jobs in world football. WTF. Madness.
Wigan owner Dave Whelan says Roberto Martinez is meeting with Liverpool's owners in Miami.
Whelan gave Martinez permission to speak to the Reds last week and has given his manager a deadline of 5 June to resolve his future.
"Roberto is in Miami today and you can only assume what he's gone there for [to talk to the Liverpool owners]," Whelan told BBC Sport.
"He is honest and up front and I expect to hear from him in the next 48 hours."
Whelan gave Martinez permission to speak to the Reds last week and has given his manager a deadline of 5 June to resolve his future.
"Roberto is in Miami today and you can only assume what he's gone there for [to talk to the Liverpool owners]," Whelan told BBC Sport.
"He is honest and up front and I expect to hear from him in the next 48 hours."
agree jimbo
wigan stank the place out for 30 games last season
I know people say liverpools stock has slipped but still big club and not sure hes done enough to jusify job
wigan stank the place out for 30 games last season
I know people say liverpools stock has slipped but still big club and not sure hes done enough to jusify job
Jurgen Klopp the latest gamble
Roberto Martinez 1/1
AVB 5/1
Brendan RODGERS 13/2
Bartinez 10/1
J.Klopp 12/1
Roberto Martinez 1/1
AVB 5/1
Brendan RODGERS 13/2
Bartinez 10/1
J.Klopp 12/1
exactly, its like Owen Coyle 18 months ago. Flavour of the month etc etc.
I would like someone to tell me what RM has done to be in contention? I cant see anything personally.
I would like someone to tell me what RM has done to be in contention? I cant see anything personally.
i think its just because he plays good football and with the right players i think he could be successful, the wigan players are easily the worst bunch in the league individualy and not really the type of players to play the type of football martinez likes to play so i think hes done a great job there
No one can tell me those Wigan players are far worse than Norwich/Swansea.
quin0607. Martinez inherited a half decent squad of players who finished 11th under Bruce. They were dire for most of last season due to poor selection, formation and tactics. Fair enough, RM got it right the last 6 weeks when they played just about the best football in the league. All depends if you like your glass half full or half empty. He can certainly waffle up with the best !
as a wigan fan with good connections to the club (not gonna say how) - martinez is a top bloke imo, but not a good coach. we played 4-5-1 for 2 and a half years and created very little, playing a lot of "football" across our penalty area..it was dire,mistake after mistake and no shots on goal and it took so long for him to see what we all knew after 6 games - it's the wrong system. I and many others were sick to death of his arrogance/stubborness as well as his same old positiveness every week when it was awful to watch most of the time
nice to see roberto trading at odds on again, just because he is now having the interview we all knew he was going to get. has anything really changed? media are completely guessing about every aspect as LFC owners arent the type to give much away.
Ian Abrahams@Moose_talkSPORT
Reports Roberto Martinez is in Miami - I am lead to believe it's for talks with Randy Learner over a move to Aston Villa NOT Liverpool FC
Reports Roberto Martinez is in Miami - I am lead to believe it's for talks with Randy Learner over a move to Aston Villa NOT Liverpool FC
Another possible "Skysports understands" misinterpreted report. Whelan in his quotes did say he assumed it was for talks with Liverpool.
The moment when RB phones up Whelan saying he wants release for Villa will be fun. But a lot of reports have said Lerner is in the UK
The tweeter might also pull a few more followers if he spelled the name of the protagonists correctly
Doesn't help his credibility that's for sure.
imo though there is a good chance his source is correct. Certainly can't just assume its for Liverpool and run a headline as such. Isn't FSG based in Boston anyways, why meet in Miami?
imo though there is a good chance his source is correct. Certainly can't just assume its for Liverpool and run a headline as such. Isn't FSG based in Boston anyways, why meet in Miami?
Because RM's holiday is in the caribbean, so it's meeting halfway
"Roberto is in Miami today and you can only assume what he's gone there for [to talk to the Liverpool owners]," Whelan told BBC Sport.
plenty of assuming going on and not much else.
plenty of assuming going on and not much else.
he has put NESV in a bit of a spot since now Martinez is only candidate the media know about for sure. Maybe that was his thinking, if he let the general public know of Liverpool's interest in Roberto then their fans would have plenty time to voice their uncertainty beforehand. It has helped this next manager market plenty though!
You never heard the last of the bellend when Bruce left for an 'unworthy' club. For this reason alone you should hope he goes to Villa
of course he wont be considering any compensation that may be due.
Plenty was due from Sunderland. Didn't stop him whinging for 6 months. Bruce left him with loads of useless players etc Not mentioning those he'd made a large profit on
Not mentioning those he'd made a large profit on
Article for the Daily Mail from April, Whelan seems to have changed his tune since then!
Roberto Martinez is expected leave Wigan when his contract expires in the summer.
Owner Dave Whelan has already decided to freshen things up at the DW Stadium and has agreed with manager Martinez that they will not negotiate a new deal.
Martinez, who also played for the club for six years, has worked for Whelan since quitting Swansea in 2009 and survived relegation on the final day of last season.
He faces a similar struggle once again with only Wolves below them in the Premier League with six games to go.
Saturday's defeat to Chelsea was a first in five Premier League games but cracks are beginning to appear in the relationship between Martinez and Wigan and the owner was critical of his manager after last month's home loss to Swansea.
'That was our worst performance in four or five years,' Whelan told the BBC at the time.
'I will have a meeting with him on Monday morning and ask him some questions about the performance and his selection. We had three quality players on the bench and I want to know why.'
Roberto Martinez is expected leave Wigan when his contract expires in the summer.
Owner Dave Whelan has already decided to freshen things up at the DW Stadium and has agreed with manager Martinez that they will not negotiate a new deal.
Martinez, who also played for the club for six years, has worked for Whelan since quitting Swansea in 2009 and survived relegation on the final day of last season.
He faces a similar struggle once again with only Wolves below them in the Premier League with six games to go.
Saturday's defeat to Chelsea was a first in five Premier League games but cracks are beginning to appear in the relationship between Martinez and Wigan and the owner was critical of his manager after last month's home loss to Swansea.
'That was our worst performance in four or five years,' Whelan told the BBC at the time.
'I will have a meeting with him on Monday morning and ask him some questions about the performance and his selection. We had three quality players on the bench and I want to know why.'
it was the daily mail so i'd take the facts they give with a pich of salt
It would be typical of the geriatric to burble on about 'releasing' Martinez when he's out of contract though
does anyone have a concrete information about klopp, his shortening
ah, a picture of them having the meeting that everyone knew was going to happen since last week. that must change everything...
Hamsterdam, how appropriate that micky mouse is watching the interview process in your picture ?
May 24, 2012 -- 10:31PM, degsy42 wrote:
looks like Martinez has got it , price coming in now
If Martinez had it his price would not be 1.85.
The price is coming in due to the interview taking place and people thinking that means he has the job. He was offered an interview, along with others, a week ago. Nobody knows how high up on their list he was, just that they felt he was worth talking to.
If liverpool have made better plans in the meantime, they cant reveal them until all the offered interviews have taken place without looking very unprofessional.
Ive seen plenty instances of people having interviews when the interviewee has already decided upon someone else. Its just courtesy to go through the motions anyway.
Not to say martinez wont get the gig but im still happy to lay at odds on considering nobody really has any clue what Henry is thinking right now.
If liverpool have made better plans in the meantime, they cant reveal them until all the offered interviews have taken place without looking very unprofessional.
Ive seen plenty instances of people having interviews when the interviewee has already decided upon someone else. Its just courtesy to go through the motions anyway.
Not to say martinez wont get the gig but im still happy to lay at odds on considering nobody really has any clue what Henry is thinking right now.
im really just trying to convince myself, given the state of my book on the market
Ive seen plenty instances of people having interviews when the interviewee has already decided upon someone else.
Mebbe he is going to Villa then.
Mebbe he is going to Villa then.
ah, spotted my deliberate mistake 
. having said that, i have had a dabble on martinez to villa as if he's only a 50% chance to go to liverpool, then with the other 50%, a large % of that time he will go to villa instead.
. having said that, i have had a dabble on martinez to villa as if he's only a 50% chance to go to liverpool, then with the other 50%, a large % of that time he will go to villa instead.
I have no info, and may well be wrong, but I've layed Martinez for a bit around evens.
The Liverpool fans I know won't be Liverpool fans any more if the WIGAN manager gets the job, and these guys are thirty year out of town supporters that go to games. They are p1ssing blood over this.
The Liverpool fans I know won't be Liverpool fans any more if the WIGAN manager gets the job, and these guys are thirty year out of town supporters that go to games. They are p1ssing blood over this.
The Americans are crafty. There is every chance their very public pursuit of Martinez is concealing an approach for another manager.
Every time their other target(s) is close to being revealed they just invite Roberto for another interview safe in the knowledge that Dave Whelan will broadcast this to the nation within 15 minutes and fill the requisite air time.
Let's face it, if they really wanted him he'd have the job by now.
Every time their other target(s) is close to being revealed they just invite Roberto for another interview safe in the knowledge that Dave Whelan will broadcast this to the nation within 15 minutes and fill the requisite air time.
Let's face it, if they really wanted him he'd have the job by now.
Today's early mover is Pep in from nowhere to 20s on the back of that copa del rey preview interview. He's gone much lower with bookies from the Chelsea job.
Twitter and the English media suggesting he might return next season.
Hope he comes in some more before he clarifies his remarks to make a massive lay worthwhile.
in from nowhere to 20s on the back of that copa del rey preview interview. He's gone much lower with bookies from the Chelsea job.Twitter and the English media suggesting he might return next season.
Hope he comes in some more before he clarifies his remarks to make a massive lay worthwhile.
Mariner Paul 25 May 12 05:37
Rodgers not going away.
The Sun (yes i know) this morning has a photo of Martinez meeting Henry in the US for talks but goes on to say that Henry is flying to the UK next week to meet Rodgers.
Rodgers not going away.
The Sun (yes i know) this morning has a photo of Martinez meeting Henry in the US for talks but goes on to say that Henry is flying to the UK next week to meet Rodgers.
Whelan: Martinez may reject Liverpool job
Friday, May 25, 2012 - 10:19 AM http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews
Wigan chairman Dave Whelan insists there is no sure-fire guarantee Roberto Martinez would take the Liverpool manager's job should it be offered to him.
The Latics chief revealed yesterday the Spaniard had taken a break from a family holiday in the Caribbean to meet top executives from Fenway Sports Group in Miami.
Martinez has always been one of the front-runners to succeed Kenny Dalglish, partly because of his chairman's habit of speaking so openly about developments.
There are still other candidates to consider as FSG were hopeful of drawing up a shortlist of up to five people to interview next week.
But even if Martinez is offered the job Whelan believes the new structure being implemented at Anfield, with a yet-to-be-appointed technical director overseeing general football matters, would not be appealing to the 38-year-old.
"A little bit will have to do with the attitude of the owners because I don't think they fully understand the game of football in England," he told Sky Sports.
"Roberto likes total control, from the youngsters at 16 to the first team.
"If he doesn't get that, I don't think he will take the job."
Whelan added on ESPN: "My information is that the new Liverpool manager will not be given full responsibility of the football department.
"The set-up on the football side goes well beyond the norm even with a director of football.
"There will be somebody else signing players and they might not necessarily be the choice of the manager.
"My advice to Roberto is to think very carefully about this, but Liverpool are a big club and I hope that they remain one of the big clubs.
"I've asked Roberto to make his mind up as soon as possible. If we have to lose him I will move very quickly to appoint a successor as I have ideas.
"Hopefully he will stay with us but we will wait and see.
"He has not said anything to me yet about what he plans to do but I have told him what I think about it, of course I have.
"I have told him it doesn't feel right what is happening at Liverpool, but its for him to make his own mind up.
"If it's yes to Liverpool I will accept it and get on with life. But if it's no I'll be delighted.
"I hope he will stay but I told him I need an answer in the next seven days."
Whelan expects to be fully compensated should Martinez turn out to be Liverpool's choice.
"He signed an extension to his contract so Liverpool would have to buy out his contract," he added.
"You are into £2m to £3m minimum. Whatever the contract is worth I am sure Liverpool would honour that and buy it out."
Friday, May 25, 2012 - 10:19 AM http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews
Wigan chairman Dave Whelan insists there is no sure-fire guarantee Roberto Martinez would take the Liverpool manager's job should it be offered to him.
The Latics chief revealed yesterday the Spaniard had taken a break from a family holiday in the Caribbean to meet top executives from Fenway Sports Group in Miami.
Martinez has always been one of the front-runners to succeed Kenny Dalglish, partly because of his chairman's habit of speaking so openly about developments.
There are still other candidates to consider as FSG were hopeful of drawing up a shortlist of up to five people to interview next week.
But even if Martinez is offered the job Whelan believes the new structure being implemented at Anfield, with a yet-to-be-appointed technical director overseeing general football matters, would not be appealing to the 38-year-old.
"A little bit will have to do with the attitude of the owners because I don't think they fully understand the game of football in England," he told Sky Sports.
"Roberto likes total control, from the youngsters at 16 to the first team.
"If he doesn't get that, I don't think he will take the job."
Whelan added on ESPN: "My information is that the new Liverpool manager will not be given full responsibility of the football department.
"The set-up on the football side goes well beyond the norm even with a director of football.
"There will be somebody else signing players and they might not necessarily be the choice of the manager.
"My advice to Roberto is to think very carefully about this, but Liverpool are a big club and I hope that they remain one of the big clubs.
"I've asked Roberto to make his mind up as soon as possible. If we have to lose him I will move very quickly to appoint a successor as I have ideas.
"Hopefully he will stay with us but we will wait and see.
"He has not said anything to me yet about what he plans to do but I have told him what I think about it, of course I have.
"I have told him it doesn't feel right what is happening at Liverpool, but its for him to make his own mind up.
"If it's yes to Liverpool I will accept it and get on with life. But if it's no I'll be delighted.
"I hope he will stay but I told him I need an answer in the next seven days."
Whelan expects to be fully compensated should Martinez turn out to be Liverpool's choice.
"He signed an extension to his contract so Liverpool would have to buy out his contract," he added.
"You are into £2m to £3m minimum. Whatever the contract is worth I am sure Liverpool would honour that and buy it out."
This was a complete mug market, I should never have got involved. Im sure some sensible and quick traders did well on this with Martinez but I have spunked 20 quid for no reason other than boredom
Martinez has been offered Liverpool job but faces more talks, claims Whelan
By Sportsmail Reporter
Wigan chairman Dave Whelan claims manager Roberto Martinez has been made an offer by managerless Liverpool but will await a further meeting before making his decision.
The Latics boss met with Liverpool's principal owner John Henry in Miami on Thursday to talk about the vacant Anfield job after interrupting a family holiday in the Caribbean.
It was expected Fenway Sports Group would speak to other candidates on a short-list in the coming days but Whelan suggested developments had progressed.
He did, however, say Martinez - who would be expected to work under a technical director - wanted to negotiate a greater degree of control of footballing issues.
'I think what he has said is, "Thank you for your offer but I only work under the following rules: I have to have complete control of football"', Whelan told Sky Sports News.
'That's normally the way in England, that's how we all work.
'I think they're considering his request and Roberto's considering their offer and they're going to talk again on Tuesday.
'Hopefully he stays with us but wherever he goes, he's 100 per cent dedicated to that football club.'
Liverpool have declined to comment on Whelan's claims but captain Steven Gerrard said that while he was unaware of any developments, Martinez would have his full support if appointed.
It was anticipated the process of finding a replacement for Kenny Dalglish would have picked up pace next week with Henry and chairman Tom Werner likely to travel to England.
Martinez remains the favourite with the bookmakers, although that could have something to do with the fact he is the only contender publicly confirmed as being in the running.
Former Porto and Chelsea boss Andre Villas-Boas appears to have dropped out of the reckoning but it has been reported the Reds have not ruled out a second approach for Swansea's Brendan Rodgers after he declined their initial invitation to open preliminary talks.
Whelan, who set his manager a deadline of June 5 to decide his future, said yesterday he was not convinced Martinez would take the Liverpool job because of the structure under which he would be expected to work.
Former Wigan and Liverpool goalkeeper Chris Kirkland believes the Spaniard would regret not seizing the opportunity should it arise.
'What he'll be thinking to himself is: "Will I get this opportunity again?"' said the 31-year-old, who had three seasons under Martinez at Wigan before agreeing a move to newly-promoted npower Championship side Sheffield Wednesday this week.
Kirkland added in the Wigan Evening Post: 'The Liverpool job is still one of the biggest in the world - and it doesn't get offered to you every day.
'It's a massive job and it will be a massive opportunity for somebody.
'Whether that will be Roberto remains to be seem.
'But my gut feeling is that he'll go - there's been too much speculation for far too long for something not to be happening.'
Martinez has failed to ignite the optimism of Liverpool fans, many of whom believe a more experienced manager should be tasked with getting the club back into the Champions League.
Former striker Peter Beardsley hopes the Spaniard, if appointed, will be able to win them over with his style of football.
However, the former England international believes FSG rushed into the decision to sack Dalglish after the club's eighth-placed finish this season.
'I think they panicked by getting rid of Dalglish,' Beardsley told talkSPORT.
'I think they should have given him another year and seen where it goes.
'But Roberto has done well at Swansea and Wigan, he's come through the system and his type of football will appeal to the Liverpool fans.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2149964/Roberto-Martinez-o...
By Sportsmail Reporter
Wigan chairman Dave Whelan claims manager Roberto Martinez has been made an offer by managerless Liverpool but will await a further meeting before making his decision.
The Latics boss met with Liverpool's principal owner John Henry in Miami on Thursday to talk about the vacant Anfield job after interrupting a family holiday in the Caribbean.
It was expected Fenway Sports Group would speak to other candidates on a short-list in the coming days but Whelan suggested developments had progressed.
He did, however, say Martinez - who would be expected to work under a technical director - wanted to negotiate a greater degree of control of footballing issues.
'I think what he has said is, "Thank you for your offer but I only work under the following rules: I have to have complete control of football"', Whelan told Sky Sports News.
'That's normally the way in England, that's how we all work.
'I think they're considering his request and Roberto's considering their offer and they're going to talk again on Tuesday.
'Hopefully he stays with us but wherever he goes, he's 100 per cent dedicated to that football club.'
Liverpool have declined to comment on Whelan's claims but captain Steven Gerrard said that while he was unaware of any developments, Martinez would have his full support if appointed.
It was anticipated the process of finding a replacement for Kenny Dalglish would have picked up pace next week with Henry and chairman Tom Werner likely to travel to England.
Martinez remains the favourite with the bookmakers, although that could have something to do with the fact he is the only contender publicly confirmed as being in the running.
Former Porto and Chelsea boss Andre Villas-Boas appears to have dropped out of the reckoning but it has been reported the Reds have not ruled out a second approach for Swansea's Brendan Rodgers after he declined their initial invitation to open preliminary talks.
Whelan, who set his manager a deadline of June 5 to decide his future, said yesterday he was not convinced Martinez would take the Liverpool job because of the structure under which he would be expected to work.
Former Wigan and Liverpool goalkeeper Chris Kirkland believes the Spaniard would regret not seizing the opportunity should it arise.
'What he'll be thinking to himself is: "Will I get this opportunity again?"' said the 31-year-old, who had three seasons under Martinez at Wigan before agreeing a move to newly-promoted npower Championship side Sheffield Wednesday this week.
Kirkland added in the Wigan Evening Post: 'The Liverpool job is still one of the biggest in the world - and it doesn't get offered to you every day.
'It's a massive job and it will be a massive opportunity for somebody.
'Whether that will be Roberto remains to be seem.
'But my gut feeling is that he'll go - there's been too much speculation for far too long for something not to be happening.'
Martinez has failed to ignite the optimism of Liverpool fans, many of whom believe a more experienced manager should be tasked with getting the club back into the Champions League.
Former striker Peter Beardsley hopes the Spaniard, if appointed, will be able to win them over with his style of football.
However, the former England international believes FSG rushed into the decision to sack Dalglish after the club's eighth-placed finish this season.
'I think they panicked by getting rid of Dalglish,' Beardsley told talkSPORT.
'I think they should have given him another year and seen where it goes.
'But Roberto has done well at Swansea and Wigan, he's come through the system and his type of football will appeal to the Liverpool fans.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2149964/Roberto-Martinez-o...
Looks like we're going to have a new fav soon
1/1 Martinez
6/5 Rodgers
10/1 AVB
16 BAR
1/1 Martinez
6/5 Rodgers
10/1 AVB
16 BAR
roberto will announce on Tuesday that he was offered a role with liverpool , but has turned the offer down
seems odd that martinez is having a news conference and not that liverpool are
would get from that he has said no
would get from that he has said no
Whatever the truth of the situation, it now appears as though Liverpool are forced to hang around and wait for the holy pronouncements of the mighty WIGAN manager.
Liverpool fans I know now in full rage mode.
Liverpool fans I know now in full rage mode.
Liverpool target Roberto Martínez to announce future on Tuesday
• Wigan Athletic manager has held talks with Liverpool
• Steven Gerrard pledges support to 38-year-old
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 27 May 2012 11.41 BST
Liverpool's hunt for a new manager could be over after it emerged that Roberto Martínez was set to announce his future plans on Tuesday.
Wigan will hold a press conference this week in which Martínez is expected to announce whether or not he will stay at the club.
The 38-year-old met Liverpool's owners in Miami on Thursday to discuss the managerial vacancy and was not put off by the huge challenge that would face any new manager.
However, it is understood Martínez has not made up his mind completely whether to accept that challenge and has given himself until Tuesday to do so.
The Wigan Athletic chairman Dave Whelan claimed on Friday the Spaniard had received an offer from Liverpool's principal owner John Henry after their meeting in Miami on Thursday.
Doubts emerged over Whelan's interpretation of the situation, with Liverpool refusing to comment amid the general belief no formal offer had been made.
Martínez's appointment would doubtless divide opinion among Liverpool supporters, some of whom may have been expecting a bigger name to be recruited to replace the sacked Kenny Dalglish.
But the captain Steven Gerrard, on England duty, has already pledged his full support to Martínez should he get the job.
"We'll have to wait and see," said the midfielder. "I'm aware Roberto Martínez has been talking to the club but all I've heard about him is positive. If he is going to be the manager, he's got my full support."
Throughout the process, Whelan has insisted it was not a foregone conclusion he would lose his manager to the club's north west rivals, claiming there were still some issues – mainly surrounding working under a technical director – to be overcome before Martínez would even be in a position to accept.
"He went to Miami and had a very constructive meeting with the owner of Liverpool," the Wigan chairman told Sky Sports News.
"They're going to talk again on Tuesday. They've made Roberto an offer and he has agreed to consider it.
"He's said, 'What are my responsibilities?' These are American owners and the rules and regulations are a bit different from what we English set down.
"Roberto is a seven-days-a-week, 12-hours-a-day worker and I don't know whether they realise how hard he works.
"He has rules and regulations to be fully in charge of football and I know he won't move anywhere unless he is fully in charge of the football.
"I think he'll give it fair consideration. Hopefully, he stays with us but, wherever he goes, he's 100% dedicated to that football club."
• Wigan Athletic manager has held talks with Liverpool
• Steven Gerrard pledges support to 38-year-old
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 27 May 2012 11.41 BST
Liverpool's hunt for a new manager could be over after it emerged that Roberto Martínez was set to announce his future plans on Tuesday.
Wigan will hold a press conference this week in which Martínez is expected to announce whether or not he will stay at the club.
The 38-year-old met Liverpool's owners in Miami on Thursday to discuss the managerial vacancy and was not put off by the huge challenge that would face any new manager.
However, it is understood Martínez has not made up his mind completely whether to accept that challenge and has given himself until Tuesday to do so.
The Wigan Athletic chairman Dave Whelan claimed on Friday the Spaniard had received an offer from Liverpool's principal owner John Henry after their meeting in Miami on Thursday.
Doubts emerged over Whelan's interpretation of the situation, with Liverpool refusing to comment amid the general belief no formal offer had been made.
Martínez's appointment would doubtless divide opinion among Liverpool supporters, some of whom may have been expecting a bigger name to be recruited to replace the sacked Kenny Dalglish.
But the captain Steven Gerrard, on England duty, has already pledged his full support to Martínez should he get the job.
"We'll have to wait and see," said the midfielder. "I'm aware Roberto Martínez has been talking to the club but all I've heard about him is positive. If he is going to be the manager, he's got my full support."
Throughout the process, Whelan has insisted it was not a foregone conclusion he would lose his manager to the club's north west rivals, claiming there were still some issues – mainly surrounding working under a technical director – to be overcome before Martínez would even be in a position to accept.
"He went to Miami and had a very constructive meeting with the owner of Liverpool," the Wigan chairman told Sky Sports News.
"They're going to talk again on Tuesday. They've made Roberto an offer and he has agreed to consider it.
"He's said, 'What are my responsibilities?' These are American owners and the rules and regulations are a bit different from what we English set down.
"Roberto is a seven-days-a-week, 12-hours-a-day worker and I don't know whether they realise how hard he works.
"He has rules and regulations to be fully in charge of football and I know he won't move anywhere unless he is fully in charge of the football.
"I think he'll give it fair consideration. Hopefully, he stays with us but, wherever he goes, he's 100% dedicated to that football club."
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