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kenilworth
15 May 12 00:26
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The home side seem a big price, around 2.2 or better
considering they have already beaten the opposition
away 2-0. I guess it's because they don't have to
actually win the match, having a 2 goal start. Any
views ?
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Report Ratmouth May 15, 2012 12:48 AM BST
I agree it's a big price but not because of the first leg. I think it's a big price full stop. I don't subscribe to the "Don't have to win the match" scenario either. Any manager and good team for that matter should know that if you have the impetus you should keep attacking. I chalked this up at around 10/11 for Huddersfield so I'm happy to be wrong. I'm in.
Report green army May 15, 2012 9:15 AM BST
Absolutely, huge price - was up to 2.28 yesterday, my take is that as 0-0 is unlikely (12.5) then match odds are almost like betting on who scores first cos if its the terriers mkd will know its all over, so yes evens or just above seems right to me

also got to be high scoring options, overs, 3-2 etc, even 3-3 if mkd score first
Report berto77 May 15, 2012 9:23 AM BST
I fully agree with green army.  It's all about the first goal from a match odds point of view.  Reminds me of the west ham Cardiff match which was 0-2 after the first leg.  Game over as soon as west ham scored.  Very unpredictable if Cardiff had been awarded that early penalty.

It's a similar story tonight.  I think Huddersfield will score first and win, but I won't play match odds just in case mk dons score first and Huddersfield are happy with 1-1 (or a nervy 0-1).
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 9:53 AM BST
I won't play match odds just in case mk dons score first and Huddersfield are happy with 1-1 (or a nervy 0-1).

Exactly, and probably the reason why Huddersfield are the price they are. They could comfortably settle
for a score that gets them through, and not necessarily winning the match.
Report green army May 15, 2012 9:58 AM BST
yeah I see this, I just think if hudderfield score first you have a buoyant terriers side knowing they are thru,& the crowd wanting more v mkd knowing they are out and wanting to go home - I just see it as v unlikely them coming back even for a draw
Report green army May 15, 2012 11:03 AM BST
bit of a bounce here 2.28 into 2.16 now back at 2.26 not sure why, probably the above argument, tho I cant see it lasting
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 1:35 PM BST
Huddersfield will know they need at least one goal, as MK would be
expected to score, most sides do score, and if MK get the first then
it would get nervy. It should be interesting, especially if MK get in
first.
Report dizzydavid1 May 15, 2012 3:25 PM BST
Green Army....I don't agree with your assertion that it's impossible for MK to score 3 (or more) goals if Huddersfield score 1... "on who scores first cos if its the terriers mkd will know its all over", "a buoyant terriers side knowing they are thru,& the crowd wanting more v mkd knowing they are out"
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 3:46 PM BST
I  suspectgreen army is a Huddersfield sympathiser.
Report dizzydavid1 May 15, 2012 4:09 PM BST
So am I tonight Kenilworth because (a) I like Jordan Rhodes from his time at Brentford, including helping us win the league and (b) I'd rather face MK next season rather than Huddersfield, and (c) Huddersfield being promoted would be better for my bank than MK going up. Interesting duel in the technical area tonight...Larry Grayson vs a slim version of James Cordern.
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 4:18 PM BST
I was thinking he was a Huddersfield supporter. Maybe not.
Report dizzydavid1 May 15, 2012 4:39 PM BST
Huddersfield's keeper might wear green but that's about all. He's a Plymouth Argyle fan.
Report green army May 15, 2012 4:51 PM BST
yeah its me wallet supporting the terriers and i agree its not impossible for mkd to score 3, only that heads may go down if huddersfield score first and early

went to leeds road once couldnt stop humming the tune for the hovis ad for a week
Report green army May 15, 2012 4:52 PM BST
yeah its me wallet supporting the terriers and i agree its not impossible for mkd to score 3, only that heads may go down if huddersfield score first and early

went to leeds road once couldnt stop humming the tune for the hovis ad for a week
Report dimebar8 May 15, 2012 5:00 PM BST
hey ken.... is doing odds*probability/100 enough to give you the answer to see if something is value or not? i used the payout indicator and payout share to calculate the probabilities of the outcomes. they all add up to 100% but in essence it's just comparing betfair prices to the average ods of 5 or 6 bookies prices isn't it?
Report dimebar8 May 15, 2012 5:03 PM BST
i got...

Huddersfield = 1.020842
Draw = 0.94465
MK Dons = 0.92574

which suggests huddersfield are the only value for a back but i'd rather lay MK Dons.

i want to add my own rating system into it all too to get my own prices to compare as well but i don't want to add too many factors into it.
Report dizzydavid1 May 15, 2012 5:27 PM BST
I'm backing under 2.5 at 2.12, if it gets matched.
Report tegz May 15, 2012 5:46 PM BST
huddersfield will outperform the mk dons as they have done in the history on their clashes
Report dizzydavid1 May 15, 2012 6:45 PM BST
My bet has now been matched so I'm on under 2.5 at 2.12.
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 6:52 PM BST
dimebar, I do my own ratings in all 4 leagues, adjust on a match by match basis,
make allowance for ground advantage and come up with corresponding prices, then
compare them with other compilers, and take it from there. A simple example is
this evenings pairing, Huddersfield v MK Dons 81 and 80 points respectively in
the league, I would rate them equally if played on a neutral ground but with it
being at Huddersfield, I would have the home side about 2.20, the visitors 3.70
the draw about 3.55. Having said that, this is not a league game and other factors
come into it. In the case of, say Huddersfield at 2.20, I compare it with other
prices and if there is a big discrepancy, the home side being perhaps 2.0, I would
be looking to lay them etc, etc. You need to read up it and there are books about
(Pullein ?) which can be helpful. GL.
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 7:03 PM BST
Had a lay of Huddersfield. I think the 1st goal is gunna be vital and MKD have no choice but to go for it. Huddersfield can be very iffy at the back and have never won a play off game at home.
Report Dan Chipowski May 15, 2012 7:04 PM BST
Anybody got the line ups?
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 7:07 PM BST
scared, how many playoff matches have they played at home,
and who is playing tonight who played in the previous ?
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 7:10 PM BST
just using some stats Ken,trying to convince myself rather than anyone else.....good luck with your bet sir
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 7:11 PM BST
Huddersfield drift.
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 7:15 PM BST
Good luck with yours, young man. For the record, I think those sort
of stats are meaningless for obvious reasons.
Report aidan jr May 15, 2012 7:16 PM BST
Mk over priced need to win
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 7:19 PM BST
I wouldnt say they were totally meaningless although i do take your point on board.
If MKD get an early goal the support will be thinking "here we go again,been here before"
These nerves in the stand are soon transfered onto the field of play.
As i said,the 1st goal will be vital. Huddersfield get it,game over. MKD get it,game on.
Report kenilworth May 15, 2012 7:24 PM BST
I agree with everything you say to a degree, especially about
the first goal.
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 15, 2012 7:46 PM BST
DONS PLAYING 3 UP FRONT..SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE GOALS....LAY OF THE DRAW FOR ME.  GOOD LUCK  Happy
Report themover May 15, 2012 7:46 PM BST
Huddersfield for me, good luck all
Report Dan Chipowski May 15, 2012 7:50 PM BST
Lively start from MK Dons.
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 7:58 PM BST
Seen enough. Over 1.5 goals for me.
Report themover May 15, 2012 8:04 PM BST
GOAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL 1-0
Report KJPG May 15, 2012 8:04 PM BST
Game over now
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 8:04 PM BST
Get in!
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 8:04 PM BST
1-0
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 8:06 PM BST
differant class isnt he
Report KJPG May 15, 2012 8:07 PM BST
didn't know he was only 22..
Report kingmax May 15, 2012 8:17 PM BST
i reckon there has been 1 shot on target so far
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 8:19 PM BST
Keeper might be off here.
Report John29 May 15, 2012 8:23 PM BST
Quite like MK Dons to win in 90 minutes at 7.8. They have been playing well enough to score and with the keep change...
Report John29 May 15, 2012 8:23 PM BST
Quite like MK Dons to win in 90 minutes at 7.8. They have been playing well enough to score and with the keep change...
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 8:25 PM BST
1-1
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 8:25 PM BST
1-1
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 8:25 PM BST
Job done!
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 8:25 PM BST
Great FinishExcitedExcitedExcited
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 8:28 PM BST
well deserved,playing some great stuff
Report Coachbuster May 15, 2012 8:29 PM BST
the Franchise are now joint favs
Report morpteh mackem May 15, 2012 8:30 PM BST
pen
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 8:30 PM BST
thats a pen any hour of the day
Report Dan Chipowski May 15, 2012 8:31 PM BST
Definitely a penalty. Ref bottled it.
Report morpteh mackem May 15, 2012 8:34 PM BST
would also be a red card
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 8:34 PM BST
ref was perfectly positioned aswell....total bottle job Cry
Report cs2007new May 15, 2012 8:35 PM BST
what happened, who denied pen ?
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 8:36 PM BST
MK DONS
Report cs2007new May 15, 2012 8:40 PM BST
thanks, i will watch the 2nd half before placing my bet Wink
Report tegz May 15, 2012 8:40 PM BST
WHATS DA FRACKIN RESULT YA KANTS?
Report tegz May 15, 2012 8:42 PM BST
lay the draw ya kants ..i aint sayin it again
Report BobbyPeru May 15, 2012 8:43 PM BST
The Ref is a morphed image of Paul Daniels and The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Report tegz May 15, 2012 8:44 PM BST
im gonna risk..and say over 3.5 goals
Report tegz May 15, 2012 8:45 PM BST
mk dons havent got a chance in hell in qualifying with their 8 year old club
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 8:56 PM BST
Suspend monkey got a bit excited there! Laugh
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 8:56 PM BST
Huddersfield @rses are twitching
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 9:05 PM BST
Getting on over 2.5
Report lukekelly88 May 15, 2012 9:11 PM BST
cmon Hudd catch them on the break
Report RichyH May 15, 2012 9:12 PM BST
It's been all Huddersfield second half, got to fancy a goal or 2
Report shaunthesheep May 15, 2012 9:13 PM BST
65% possession dons, all huddersfield????????
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 9:14 PM BST
which game you watching Richy?
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:14 PM BST
Has Mk Dons even got a shot in this half though ??? LoL
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 9:15 PM BST
Missed that one on one with the keeper bergy
Report RichyH May 15, 2012 9:16 PM BST
Sorry I thought Huddersfield were wearing Blue and White stripes
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 9:16 PM BST
You've gotta think that MK's heads will drop at some point.
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:16 PM BST
Awrite I see must have missed it cheers ...Was changing between the hertha Berlin game to this Grin
Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 9:18 PM BST
Ref's blind
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 9:20 PM BST
evened it up hasnt he Paul....he's a bottler
Report duey May 15, 2012 9:22 PM BST
think Hudders nick this!!
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 9:24 PM BST
started to green up on my Huddersfield lay Cool
Report Coachbuster May 15, 2012 9:27 PM BST
chaotic scenes in the dussledorf match - crowd stormed the pitch before FT  Laugh
Report RichyH May 15, 2012 9:28 PM BST
Got to fancy Hudd to have a chance with MK throwing so many bodies forward
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:28 PM BST
F uck me Coacxhbuster just seen there CRAZY Scenes is right ShockedShocked
Report Coachbuster May 15, 2012 9:29 PM BST
Hertha players have walked off Laugh
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:30 PM BST
Really is all Kicking off there MENTALLLLLLL LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report cs2007new May 15, 2012 9:32 PM BST
dont tell me this game will end up DRAW
Report RichyH May 15, 2012 9:34 PM BST
Shoite from Rhodes
Report cs2007new May 15, 2012 9:37 PM BST
4 min
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST
WoW What a couple of saves there from sub keeper ShockedShocked
Report jdltrading May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST
booooooooooooooooom 1-2
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST
Alan smith LoL
Report jdltrading May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST
Smith
Report RichyH May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST
1 more MK
Report T.M.0 May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST
aguero time Laugh
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST
1ST Goal in over 12O Appearences
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:39 PM BST

May 15, 2012 -- 9:39PM, T.M.0 wrote:


aguero time


LaughLaugh

Report Mariner Paul May 15, 2012 9:40 PM BST
Over 2.5 never in doubt. Laugh
Report scaredmoney May 15, 2012 9:40 PM BST
Huddersfield still never won a play off game at home Cool Happy
Report supersmith May 15, 2012 9:40 PM BST

May 15, 2012 -- 9:39PM, Bergkamp93 wrote:


May 15, 2012 --  9:39PM, T.M.0 wrote:aguero time


LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Report RichyH May 15, 2012 9:42 PM BST
Here comes the neds
Report Bergkamp93 May 15, 2012 9:43 PM BST
Meanwhile in Dussledorf the commentators are sitting silent like tits waiting to see what the f uck is going on for the past 20 mins LaughLaughLaughLaugh PMSL
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