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Can't wait to see what dirt the press dig up on him.
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Fa might, just might be playing the right game here - nobody has been appointed yet but don't let the facts get in the way though.....
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CCM on a one man crusade to crucify Woy before he gets going.
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It didn't do Greece any harm.
Should we go Keegan style, and return home when the technically better sides pick us off? Good point. England have inferior players to quite a few of the sides in the tournament. Perhaps what we need is a manager without an ego, who can organise and get a side to battle their way through ala Greece. |
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All this talk of titles as a means of success is ridiculous. No current English manager has won anything big because you cant achieve anything big unless you manage one of the top sides and football is more like that than it has ever been. Its like picking the driver of a Ferrari to drive a Mondeo, thinking he's a genius, paying him loads, then finding out afterwards that basically it's the car. That's what happened with England and Capello and Erikson. Erikson actually has a truly awful record since he left England, which was better than anything hes done since. He had one thing in his favour with England though as he was quite lucky. Luck plays a huge part.
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Its eight years on, even Rehhagel has stopped playing with a sweeper!
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Good point. England have inferior players to quite a few of the sides in the tournament. Perhaps what we need is a manager without an ego, who can organise and get a side to battle their way through ala Greece.
WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! we are ingurlund, IN-GUR-LUND!!! we invented the game donchaknow?! we should march in there, st georges cross displayed proudly and show those bloody dagoes, wops, krauts and frogs what good old fashioned blighty can do!!! |
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I thought Capello tried that approach?
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Coatsy 29 Apr 12 21:22
so redknapp is your man if you want to win a couple of lower division titles, one major and one minor domestic cup over 30 odd years Maybe he is. But the discussion's about the England manager job, so you'd be better directing that at someone touting Redknapp for that gig, cos it certainly ain't me. |
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Coatsy.
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Capello picked Green and James ahead of Joe Hart at the last WC and we paid him £5m a year
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except has anyone suggested a realistic alternative? barring mourinho or guardiola (
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Alan curbishley
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I've heard Rehhagel mentioned on this thread
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Best of what is available. Has patriotism and a measure of ability that may be better suited to the England job rather than a premiership position. Only question is if the media will give him some support as our players are definitely not world class. He runs the risk of being the scapegoat for wildly optimistic expectations.
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I'd be asking Pardew personally. He's done brilliantly, and we all know Newcastle will deal if the price is right.
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Peter reid
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Whoever is chosen I hope they pick Adam Johnson. He's the one player I fear they won't pick that I really think they should. Felt the same with Joe Hart 2 years ago
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Woy is a solid rather than an inspiring choice but as has being pointed out there aren't many options if being English is a key criteria.
My worst fear was Stuart Pearce so at least we've avoided that. I just think Harry might have got more out of our players than Woy. |
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I'd be asking Pardew personally. He's done brilliantly, and we all know Newcastle will deal if the price is right.
Pardew has been lucky with his group of players. Very fit, very athletic. But even they were outplayed at Wigan. And that's the point about Redknapp too. His success has come from buying players in. He can't do that with England. Hodgson has always built on limited budgets and worked with what he had. |
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Guus Hiddink would do for me.
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Surely we could outbid Anzhi
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Pardew has been lucky with his group of players ???
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Lennon on one wing Walcott on the other , no other teams have faster players with the ball than these two. Play to your strengths.
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Mr A - and that's completely different to being England manager. The expectations at Fulham and WBA are to get 41 points and finish 4th bottom, anything more is a bonus.
As England manager, he'll be asked to motivate player from both Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham; players used to the pressure of winning home and away against the highest calibre of opposition and of actually winning trophies. Nothing he's done in the last 16 years suggests he's remotely suited to that role. |
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You could compare managing England to managing Liverpool IMO.
Lots of fans who think they are better than they are and an unrealistic expectation because of that. |
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Johnson and Young are much better than Lennon and better than Walcott imo.
Lennon cant cut it at the top level. Walcott can do a job off the bench when players are tired and he can use his pace |
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RH has managed 19 clubs while in the same time HR has managed 6. That tells me he isn't successful and is easily moved on. The England team need someone to set them up for the future. So many older players will need to be replaced and a new culture brought in. HR was the man for the job.
I suspect the head of the FA and the owner of Spurs have got together and sorted this out. |
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Johnson and Young aren't that fast though. I've seen Walcott a few times in the Champions League tear up foreign defences with his speed, Lennon has to be the fastest in the world with the ball at his feet - he's ridiculously quick.
Ashley Young was very poor in the Champions League matches for Man Utd. |
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Good point about the quality of Liverpool. Let's look at what Roy achieved there during his time, before the quality of the squad was exposed.
A Robotnicki - W H Robotnicki - W H Arsenal - D H Trabzonspor - W A Man City - L A Trabzonspor - W H West Brom - W A Birmingham - D H Steau - W A Man Utd - L then it all started to go wrong. Losing against the two Manchesters and drawing against Arsenal was not good enough, and everyone started to lose faith. But that was the best that could be achieved with that group of players. |
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The expectations at Fulham and WBA are to get 41 points and finish 4th bottom, anything more is a bonus.
7th, 12th, 8th and currently 9th |
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Give it a rest Mr A. You're in danger of losing the plot here. The fans didn't cheer enough and made him choose the wrong players and wrong tactics every week. Honest.
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This is the same Spurs side that have played 4 lost 4 against the Manchester sides this year, conceding 14 goals in the process and winning nothing?
Substitute Spurs for England and ManU and City for Spain and Germany, then you probably have a similar match ups of relative strength |
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You seemto have conveniently forgotten the (utterly deserved) home defeat to Blackpool.
No Liverpool fan has. And Northampton. You don't appear to have mentioned the mighty Northampton. |
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choose the wrong players
where are all these amazing players 'pool have been hiding away  |
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Hamsterdam, top international football is about keeping the ball and technical ability and unlocking tight defences. They are 2 most technically skilful players in the England team. Granted Ashley Young isnt quite in the same form he was 6 months ago
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Are you saying that if Liverpool had a better manager than Hodgson he would have got better results than those?
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they want him to have the job - he wants it - why only 1.46 ?
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Yes. A better manager would have beaten both Blackpool and Northampton
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I remember it very clearly. After the defeat against Man Utd everyone was beginning to get on his back and question his "tactics". One point against the three big teams of the league was unacceptable for a club with Liverpool's ambition.
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