If Chelsea did win it and don't finish 4th, does that mean

No (at least not in Germany), if Chelsea wins it and is in the first 4, the fifth gets a spot, too. If they are not top 4, the first 4 teams get a spot.

(and Chelsea gets one too of course)

whoever finishes 4th (Newcastle or Spurs ?) would miss out on a Champions League spot ?

correct

max 4 clubs allowed from anyone country

rules were changed after Liverpool won it in 2005

that indeed is correct toffee .if chelsea win . 4th spot do not get a champions league place

I HOPE NEWCASTLE GET 4TH NOW AND CHELSEA WIN IT BRILLIANT

@prele

Sorry but only four teams maximum allowed from one country since above mentioned rule change. The winner of the trophy is always guarenteed a place in the group stage.

Number of clubs per UEFA member association
2.01 UEFA member associations (hereinafter associations) may enter a certain
number of clubs for the competition, in accordance with their position in the
coefficient rankings in Annex Ia, drawn up in accordance with Annex II of
these regulations. However, no association may enter more than four clubs
for the competition. These rankings also determine the stage at which clubs
join the competition.

or arsenal of course.

I WOULD PAY GOOD MONEY TO SEE THIS HAPPEN TO ARSENAL

marquinhos,

You must be a Sunderland supporter , ah well you can't help trouble. I hear Sunderland will be selling some players close season to cut their wage bill.

presumably the 3rd place team would have to qualify and not go automatically through to group stage ?

'If..indeed' ....Arsenal, Spurs and Newcastle fans needn't worry; it won't be an issue.

It will be tough for Chelsea to win the final

Chelsea will be without 4 key players plus possibly Cahill, I would expect Real Madrid to beat them, if Bayern get through they will have home advantage. Having said that it is a 'one off' game and anything can happen. Chelsea should be proud of what they achieved last night, to a man they battled magnificently.

if it is bayern 1 chelsea 1 after 90 minutes, chelsea should win on away goals !

toffee 3rd automatic, chelsea would have to qualify.

@toffee

I think everything else will remain equal and the top three teams (from the EPL) also all qualify for the group stage.

@ moto

Chelsea wouldn't have to qualify. Uefa always want the holder in the main competitionth (the group stages).

Titleholder
2.03 The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group
stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic
championship.

^sorry mtoto

NOT A SUNDERLAND SUPPORTER MUG JUST LIKE TO SEE TEAMS GETTING DONE IN I THINK IT WOULD BE FUNNY IF NEWCASTLE MANAGED 4TH BUT GOT NO CL

marquinhos,

You sound like a really nice chap, good luck in all you do.

ok stand corrected. worry about scenario if it happens.

marquinhos
24 Apr 12 18:43

BOLTON A LAY TERRIBLE AWAY TEAM

still hurting i think

mtoto2,

I'm sorry to hear that.

marquinhos is obviously a really short bloke with an incredibly small p*nis, it explains a lot of his anger.

^^

MTOTOMUG I AM ROLLING IN MONEY FROM YESTERDAY THE BOLTON LOSSES WENT UNNOTICED

happy for you

Waldo
24 Apr 12 18:45

marquinhos aint u the guy that made a thread and had like 50 loses and 5 wins, im defo happy with my bet now

NO YOU MUG I AM THE KING I WOULD NEVER LOSE THAT MANY BETS

In the OP's scenario 4th place goes into the Europa League instead of the Champions League.

Bad luck Newcastle, try again next season

marquinhos   

i'm sure Chelsea won't let you down in the final