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By:
shudacuda
When: 19 Apr 12 21:17
Check out the crime figures for ethnics.

You can't get them.

I wonder why.

There are now prisons full of ethics,who need to be kept apart due to religious or gang reasons.
By:
MadDogs
When: 19 Apr 12 21:17
OP must have too much spare time to be searching polish uk benefit relating websites, get a life loser
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 19 Apr 12 21:17
ffs, is tonight EDL night and someone didn't warn me?

more morons spouting garbage with no actual facts to back it up, that's all this forum needs. Cry
By:
mightymoyes
When: 19 Apr 12 21:18
another good post pootle, unfortunately some people just like gettin shafted by those in power and then pin the blame on the working or under-class.
By:
chpin
When: 19 Apr 12 21:20
prisons full of ethics LaughLaugh
By:
chpin
When: 19 Apr 12 21:21
Nice post Pootle but the stupid f--ing sheep see this as a race problem fuelled by the sh it rags that they read
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 21:23
This post isnt about Race or Skin Colour..

The Polish are White like us FFS..
By:
Just Checking
When: 19 Apr 12 21:23
Viva, it's apparently a sort of benefit gig with a billing of
- The EDL
- "Fings wot a bloke down the pub told me"
- Mirror Editorials

At the end they'll all come on stage for a big medley of "F**k the rich, forernurs, and anyone who isn't working class and white".

Kind of Billy Bragg sings the poetry of Nick Griff.
By:
avi315
When: 19 Apr 12 21:25

Apr 19, 2012 -- 8:33PM, Corky wrote:


If they are so hard working, why do they need these benefits sites ?


I don't read all crap in this thread, but would you not take money if some1 would just give it to you for free? Hard working but not idiots.

By:
viva el presidente!
When: 19 Apr 12 21:27
...then when they've finished kicking each other in, go and clog up A&E and give the ethnics who are treating them and paying tax for the privilege surly looks.

then home for a spot of cider and dole.
By:
The Forum Breader
When: 19 Apr 12 21:28
Apparently anyone who is anti-immigration is a racist edf supporter. Personally I don't think they are.
My parents are Irish, my wife is Malaysian so I am anything but racist anti immigration.
However, I think Britain has gone too far too fast on the way it opened its borders and now has to deal with the inevitable consequences.
By:
Pootle
When: 19 Apr 12 21:28
Thing is I would never say, there is no problem with our immigration laws, etc. There clearly are issues that need addressing, however they are blown out of all proportion compared to other problems that are larger cause more economic hardship, but are swept under the carpet by the media and politicians (all sides).


Then there are simple problems like **** all sport on tonight so we waffle about nonsense Excited
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 21:36
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8851902/Migrants-to-send-Britains-population-soaring-to-largest-in-EU.html


Crucially, if the trend continues, it will overtake Germany for the first time as the largest EU country by 2043.


will be driven by direct immigration or by migrant mothers giving birth.
By:
ND47
When: 19 Apr 12 21:38
That's one big post Pootle.

If those figures are correct it is of course logical to go after those commiting Tax fraud but can't we go after those who commit benefit fraud too? We live in a pretty advanced country after all.

Tax avoidance is another issue. But, If people who fraudlenley claim benefit money (be they British or otherwise) could screw us out of £2000 a month they would... All parasites are the same they will take what you allow. In this case the big companies have a bigger opportunity to screw us (shame on them).

shudacudas point about crime may not have been the most eloquent you'll see but it does raise a point. Immigration costs a lot more than just benefits.

There are many factors such as crime, health, education. Educating a child isn't cheap nor is the cost of looking after the whole family in terms of health.

So what if a family comes over and one of the parents takes a £6p/h job? The UK will still have to pay the Education and Health costs of the rest of the family.

Then you have the organised crime elemnet. Setting up trials and imprisoning other peoples scum will add to the cumalitive (sp?) cost too.

At the end of the day we need to work on our own problems in the UK.
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 21:40
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8663188/Immigration-ban-on-husband-who-cannot-speak-English-is-a-breach-of-human-rights-court-told.html
By:
shudacuda
When: 19 Apr 12 21:46
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8851902/Migrants-to-send-Britains-population-soaring-to-largest-in-EU.html


Nothing to worry about though.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 19 Apr 12 21:46
What we need is companies in this country to pay more tax

What we need is less government spending and lower taxes all round.
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 21:50
I don't really give a ****. I'll be retired in SE Asia, getting my **** sucked by a little brown lady whilst sipping a Beer Chang in the sun
By:
ND47
When: 19 Apr 12 21:51
The PC brigade generally choose not to see issues like the one reported in the link above (largest population in the EU).

One day they'll see associated problems that mass immigration brings with it (if they ever get off their high horse)
By:
shudacuda
When: 19 Apr 12 21:52
hudson thats racist,getting sucked off by a little brown lady.

Whatever happened to the equal oppertunities commision.
By:
MadDogs
When: 19 Apr 12 21:54
classic neanderthal mentality 'too many immigrants over here im moving abroad...'
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 19 Apr 12 21:56
ND47     19 Apr 12 21:38 
That's one big post Pootle.

If those figures are correct it is of course logical to go after those commiting Tax fraud but can't we go after those who commit benefit fraud too? We live in a pretty advanced country after all.


Tax evasion is believed to be about 14billion the government spends over 120 billion more than it collects in taxation. This is despite the collect a whopping 600billion a year in total taxation.

Fuel duty alone is £27 billion a year, about 2% of gdp and just under  5% of total taxation.
The reason we pay high levels of tax is because the electorate elects a nanny interfering state government whether tory or labour which spends £727 billion a year to run itself badly.

we are taxed on everything, income, ni, council tax, vat, fuel, cigs, alcohol,  because the electorate chose big state government whether you voted labour, liberal or tory. High taxes are the electorates fault no one elses, the public gets what it deserves.

If people want to get p....d off with something then get p....d off with the state spending £727 billion a year or £220 billion to pay and pension public sector workers or £25 billion a year for overseas aid, wars and eu or messing up state procurement.

The government pay 50billion in debt interest by the end of this parliament it will be 70billion a year a differential greater than what will be saved if all evaders are caught. How about the government balances its budget long term it will save us more on debt interest alone.

If the state was cut in size you would pay less tax, less income tax, less vat.

Its time the country woke up to the incompetent mess all parties are and demanded a much better return for their money.
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 21:56
I'll be going to a third-world country to live a simple live, and bring my pension for the benefit of the local economy.

I'll have health insurance for myself, ill pay for my visa costs every year and wont cost the state a penny.
By:
shudacuda
When: 19 Apr 12 21:59
Hudson have you checked the S.E.Asian Benefit sites to claim your benefits?
By:
mightymoyes
When: 19 Apr 12 21:59
mighty whites the public have 3 choices of sh1te every 5 yrs. the myth we live in a 'democracy'.
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 22:00
Yeah i'm eligible for a bowl of rice every week.. which i'll be claiming straight away
By:
shudacuda
When: 19 Apr 12 22:00
Scrounger
By:
Pootle
When: 19 Apr 12 22:02
Yeah I got carried away ND47 Excited
I agree we should go after all sides, but we can barely plug a hole in the sink, let alone track down all the problems. That in itself is a problem.

And I agree there is a crime cost, social cost etc. But I do think its often over blown.

I am not, at all, accusing anyone of being EDL or right wing or anything, let me say that first, but historically, in times of economic problems people tend to focus on and blame 'outsiders' not just in the uk, but the world over.

I'm not calling you or anyone else, stupid or racist, so please dont think I am, the point I am trying to make is, in times of crisis / economic hardship, the blame is usually put on those who are different etc, its not a case of racism, its almost an animalistic / tribal response. Its sociologically human nature, in fact it even happens in the animal kingdom. When things are going well, people are happy and arms are open for free hugs, when things go badly, the instinct is to close doors and turn on the outsiders. The problem is, the media and the government will play on that, and not just in the uk, it happens in the states, it happens in Japan, it happens in china, the world over. Things go bad, the perceived outsider is apportioned more blame.

Now I am not saying we dont have problems in this country due to immigration laws being softer than they should, and I agree there are some stupid examples of people using interpretations of laws etc to get their own way, but its often too easy to lose sight of the larger picture and bigger problems. Plus media and wealthy folk will play on fear and tribal nature, because it takes the heat off them - better to have people outraged about a bloke who cant be deported (and yes he should be) than be outraged about a government that just screwed old people in the budget etc.

So yes, I agree there are problems we have we need to sort, and we need to tighten immigration a little, but its really not quite as huge a problem as some media would have us believe. There are other issues, they just dont want us worrying about them, because they want to stay nice and cosy.


I gotta type less
By:
padlock
When: 19 Apr 12 22:03
worse in ireland £200 @week
welfare tourism,fly in once a month,sign on £800
easy peasy
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 22:04
While im in the Sun.. you lot will be broke-poor, living in fear of violence from gangs in your wonderfully diverse communities living of UN handout food aid

I'm not talking about the EU immigrants here, they'd have long since ****ed off back home with their piece of the UK economy building their homes in their stronger economies.
By:
mightymoyes
When: 19 Apr 12 22:07
everyone knows its a standard tactic for govts to bring in immigrants when times are good so they can then blame them when things go wrong.
By:
The Forum Breader
When: 19 Apr 12 22:08
How old are you Pootle?
By:
shudacuda
When: 19 Apr 12 22:10
Which enlightened politician agreed to us paying for E.U. citizens kids while they work here,despite the kids being still living in their own countries?
By:
Jinkie
When: 19 Apr 12 22:10
A bunch of gamblers complaining that some people don't contribute to society.....

Dear oh dear!!!
By:
Pootle
When: 19 Apr 12 22:15
Population increases arent just down to immigration though.
We have longer life expectancy and it just goes up and up.

So if we had no immigration in the next 25 years at all
The population would still rise significantly due to less people dying, more people living longer, and people who are here breeding.

Part of our problem is the ageing population, who contribute nothing day to day but place a strain on all services.
I dont mean any disrespect in that by the way, its just fact, Average life span is over 80, pensioners dont earn, didnt save when they did earn, and need money to get by, and are the primary users of health care and social services. But we cant just kill them all off.

We need more young people in the country in order to survive, and we actually need to stop increasing life expectancy in this country.

Viva Logans Runs.


And if we want the government to spend less, by a significant amount, then we need to accept less state services.
Education, Police, Fire Service, NHS
They all cost money
IF people want education for their kids, NHS, and a police service, then it needs paying for.
IF people dont want that, and they want private education, private health and a depleted police force, then well stick around because thats what the tories are going to bring.
Just hope you fall on the side that can afford it.
And if you have ever been ill in america, you'll know how much health care can cost.

Its a creaking system thats not going to get better, but no politician will ever stand up and say, you know what people, we are all going to have to get used to being a little worse off.

They could raise bagfuls of cash though
Legalise cocaine, and have the government as the only licensed seller.
2 million people shoving it up their nose each week anyway, and not a penny going to the government.
Decriminalise it, tax it.
By:
The Forum Breader
When: 19 Apr 12 22:16
How old are you Pootle?
By:
hudsonhicks2
When: 19 Apr 12 22:17
The average British family has 2.4 chilren. The average Pakistani/Indian has 10 million LaughLaugh
By:
Pootle
When: 19 Apr 12 22:18
The Forum Breader
How old are you Pootle?


37, why ?
By:
ND47
When: 19 Apr 12 22:18
It's ok Pootle, you've never come across as accusing me or others of being racist etc.

In truth we'll never know what is bigger the cost of immigration, with all the factors such as benefits, social housing, healthcare, education, crime and the effect of them filling jobs that British people could hold. Or the cost of Tax evasion... At the end of the day if you are getting screwd how can you tell the total cost? if you could you'd probably have a fair idea of who is actually screwing you.

For the record I've visited places such as India, Algeria, Egypt & Tunisia (Was in the Navy) And I can understand why people from such places (or Poland) would choose to come here.

I hold no ill against them, after all is said and done they are only trying to better themselves by doing so, if I lived there I'd probably try and come over here too. I just don't think our government should allow them to do so at our collective expense, especially when we have big problems of our own such as 3 million unemployed.
By:
ND47
When: 19 Apr 12 22:27
Might Whites 2008.

No one promises to make cuts in order to get elected... There just aren't enough sensible voters out there to make it a viable policy!!!
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