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The penalty awarded to Hearts on Sunday was a very poor decision, but such things happen more and more these days. Just like poor offside decisions such as the one which allowed Celtic's goal.
A Celtic player hit a post TWICE when it was easier to score and if he'd done his job properly, this thread would not exist and neither would the upcoming Edinburgh derby final. Feck, you are still confusing Orangeism and Freemasonry. I doubt if there are enough Orangemen in influential enough positions to cause the effects you claim, even if they wanted to. |
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JamDav1982...Willie Collum teaches R.E in a Catholic School and is a practising Catholic. He would not be allowed to teach this particular subject if he were not in this particular school. I am not getting your point.
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dont lie up all night worrying about bias ,masons and the bogeyman
heres neil getting his own back on the nasty non sellic men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHeRaAy3cWQ&feature=related |
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The point is Pollensa that the likes of yourself are trying to make out that the majority of referees will be anti catholic due to population percentages etc.
Yet the referee that has taken as much stick as anyone for being in on this anti Celtic conspiracy is actually - as you say 'a practsing Catholic'. |
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Please read the posts in full ie regarding his employers.
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Dont get your point at all Pollensa.
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JamDav...I accept that.
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Good.
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Do you honestly not get the point that Collum's bosses using the 16% stat will not favour Celtic ? That is all I am saying. If the make up of the country was different my argument would still be the same ie use the stats. Collum and any other employee cannot make decision after decision as if they are not answerable to their employers. Please tell me you get that ?
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Pollensa you are making no point whatsoever.
Willie Collum is a practising Catholic that has come in for as much stick for being in on the anti Celtic agenda. Its that simple. Religion has nothing to do with it and there is no conspiracy against Celtic. |
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He has come in for stick due to mistakes he has made in Celtic matches. It is often pointed out he is a Catholic etc etc.....so what. He made honest mistakes including having eyes at the back of his head. My point is he like any other employee is answerable to his employers. At my place of work I am aware I simply cannot say and do what I want as I have to adhere to certain rules laid down by my employers, some of which I do not agree with bit I need the job so you conform to the prescribed way of working or end up unemployed or at least involved in some dispute. I promise to leave it at that.
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Ah OK Pollensa I think I see your point - Collum has been told by the SFA to cheat Celtic out of games due them being a Catholic side.
Willie Collum the former religious education teacher in a catholic school goes along with this without a second thought. Fairly poor argument from you Pollensa. I thought how much you were going on about it it was better than that to be honest |
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Ah OK Pollensa I think I see your point - Collum has been told by the SFA to cheat Celtic out of games due them being a Catholic side.
Willie Collum the former religious education teacher in a catholic school goes along with this without a second thought. Fairly poor argument from you Pollensa. I thought how much you were going on about it it was better than that to be honest |
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Nice picture of the Wooluf in the back pages of the tabloids today.
He could be in deep water with the beaks a 17 game ban is on the cards. Methinks he will need to stop venturing out on the full moon he is terrifying to look at when he turns. |
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ffs grow up,its football we or discussing not cartoons.
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Wish it was football we were discussing but where the current tic manager is concerned alas that never seems to be the case.
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Ah OK Pollensa I think I see your point - Collum has been told by the SFA to cheat Celtic out of games due them being a Catholic side.
Willie Collum the former religious education teacher in a catholic school goes along with this without a second thought. Fairly poor argument from you Pollensa. I thought how much you were going on about it it was better than that to be honest It's not the way it happens JamDav at least not where your token micks are concerned. As Pollensa says, read the posts in full regarding his employers. Is there anyone out there who truly believes Willie Collum would now be one of our "top referees" if his eyes in the back of his head penalty award had happened at the other end? He would've found himself refereeing meaningless games, possibly in the lower divisions, quicker than you could say "why was Andy Davis's Tynecatle hallucination rewarded with a cup final spot?". Would you agree the RUC were a biased organisation during the troubles? There is well documented cases of them passing on information to loyalist paramilitary groups which led to murder. There were some Catholics in the RUC despite the fact they risked retribution from republican groups. There were even Jewish kapos in death camps. Did that make the nazis unbiased? |
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Why would there not be a bias?
I refuse to leave until at least one of you make an @rse of yourself attempting to answer this. |
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Feck
I am having difficulty seeing how your ref theory works out in practice m8? Are they being told beforehand by certain (dark forces) that any contentious decisions should go against the tic? If so would you have an inkling who the SFA members are that are responsible for this? Or Is there an unwritten law (as you may have suggested earlier) where it is known (amongst the whistlers) that any ref that does not toe the proposed party line will be sent to the lower leagues? Do you know of any examples where this has happened to a ref? |
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Your arguement is terrible Feck. You are unable to prove something so you try and put the burden on to those questioning you to prove bias by asking them why something which has no evidence of existing wouldn't exist.
The question is impossible to answer because it is a bit like asking why would god not exist or why wouldn't the easter bunny exist? You got a a fair refereeing performance on Saturday and still Lennon disgraces himself and Scottish football by his actions and failing to admit he was completely and utterly in the wrong with his actions on Saturday. Your team couldn't score in 90 minutes without assistance from the linesman and still your exit from the cup is the fault of the big bad bogeyman . |
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And as for you Andy Davis chat. If you think that Hearts fans who were at Tynecastle that day thought "oh darn it, we got cheated out of that game but lets not make a fuss about it the next time we play Celtic it will all be made up for" you are an even bigger idiot than I previously thought.
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fair refereeing decision
.i take it you know little about football you clown,cuz you must be one of the few people who say it was a penalty.many top football analysts say the celtic penalty decision which they never got was more clear cut.so what sh1te or you talking ![]() |
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Neil Lennon simply isnt good enough , THATS HIS PROBLEM
As in any job or walk off life , a good manager will take defeat on the chin , learn from it and go away and improve his team to try ensure it doesnt happen again . A poor manager will deflect and blame everyone and everything but himself and not see the true reasons for defeat or not be man enough to admit it Niel Lennon has created a situation at parkhead where his team cannot win a big match , the team take the park knowing if they do lose it will not be thier fault , it will be the refs as it has been in almost every game And thats not good for any player Gordon strachan and M o niell seen the team and themselves to blame for defeat and went back and worked on the faults together , thats what made theses men respected winners |
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ffs shut up you muppet.cannot win a game,who won the league.a manager take defeat on the chin,ive seen the best manager in the world blameing referees decision on the outcome of games.in the eyes of celtic supporters neil lennon is a winner on and off the park.as for the pr1ck who said neil lennon had to send alan thompson to talk to the media,dosent ferguson,dagleish,rednapp,and the rest of them send their assistants to talk to them,so why not neil lennon.
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Maggot what has he won , a title with only one runner
Tell me a big match he has won . Has the cheek to put himself up with true greats like big jock , strachan , big billy , M O Niell , thats not his call to invite himself to that table ffs Wins one tainted title and tells the world he will lift the champions league , that is a big clue to the delusional danger facing celtic right now Champions league ffs ![]() |
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FECK
WTF are you rambling on about? Jews,Nazis,RUC,catholics,republicans,loyalists etc You are part of the west of Scotland problem. You are a bigot,living in the past. The rest of Scotland are trying to discuss football here. Please get help. |
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Well said mate , dark days long gone
well almost gone |
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people have dreams,thats why they become football managers.one horse race what happened to the scum
celtic and neil lennon will win the league title for the next 10 years.im a celtic supporter and im delighted to hear him say we will win the champions league,hes ambitious and hes got the club going in the right direction.talk about the scum and mccoist,will he be in charge next year,managers have got sacked for far less,then you have the clowns filling up ibrox to watch 11 sunday league players.had lennon of won the treble this year hed have been rite up with m,oneil no doubt.ill guarantee if neil lennon hangs around at parkhead,hell be remembered more to the supporters than that of oneil and strachen for the success he brings to the club. |
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DARK DAYS GONE
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If 11 sunday league players thumped and outplayed celtic in the last old firm then that proves my points
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son whos lifting the league cup,its definetly not rangers so who is it.whos the best team in scotland the champions id say.do you say different
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Congradulations on the title , beat all the cannon fodder with ease and won the title , no disputes there mate .
Put that team in a pressure game and its a totally different story , no bottle and alway someone else to blame , now you can see this in lennons eyes or through your own Did celtic have chances in these games , did they play to thier ability , did opponents get decisions go against them , would strachan , O Niell , big jock etc have done better in these matches . Thats the danger of lemmon , the misguided start to look at things through thier messiahs eyes |
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Feck
I am having difficulty seeing how your ref theory works out in practice m8? Are they being told beforehand by certain (dark forces) that any contentious decisions should go against the tic? If so would you have an inkling who the SFA members are that are responsible for this? Or Is there an unwritten law (as you may have suggested earlier) where it is known (amongst the whistlers) that any ref that does not toe the proposed party line will be sent to the lower leagues? Do you know of any examples where this has happened to a ref? mac, I don't think the SFA as a whole meet to discuss keeping those micky b's down but there will be a faction within it who will. Steve Conroy & Eddie Smith (he of the Nakamura free kick against St Mirren) disappeared off the face of the earth for a long time. Your arguement is terrible Feck. You are unable to prove something so you try and put the burden on to those questioning you to prove bias by asking them why something which has no evidence of existing wouldn't exist. Dude, I put forward a perfectly logical reason as to why it exists. I can understand your frustration at being unable to answer the question "Why would there not be a bias?" as your failure to do so exposes your true motives. WTF are you rambling on about? Jews,Nazis,RUC,catholics,republicans,loyalists etc You are part of the west of Scotland problem. You are a bigot,living in the past. The rest of Scotland are trying to discuss football here. It's my hope that one day football will be all there will be to discuss but while people like yourself continue to deny the truth because it exposes your own hate that day will not come. Perhaps if you recognised that there is an element within Scotland who live only in the past and that the SFA is riddled with said saddos you'd start to understand things better. This July they'll be banging their drums down my street and singing how they'd love to be up to their knees in my blood yet you believe there's no possible way they'd make a dodgy decision in their team's favour. Get a grip (no pun intended) of yourself man. |
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Put that team in a pressure game and its a totally different story
It is, but it's not because the players are intimidated it's because the refs rise to the occasion just like they'll do likewise if Rangers are struggling in a high pressure game. |
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Why would there not be a bias?
It's not surprising no one can answer this question because they are so full of hate that they know deep down, given the chance, they'd be part of the problem themselves. |
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Do you really believe that feck
The same SFA that forced rangers to play all these matches around a uefa cup final , too blinkered and stupid to realise the bigger picture for the scottish game The same SFA that treated gough so dismally and never stood by Big dunc when they sent him down , i do agree thier is too many off them stuck in the past and do no good for scottish football but they are damaging the whole off scottish football , its not exclusive to parkhead |
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hello, they already set a precedent for that with Celtic but, had Rangers been under threat of administration at the time of the EUFA cup final they'd probably have went the extra length. There's little doubt they've thrown subtlety out the window since the very existence of their club came under threat.
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Maggot what pundits are you referring? The Celtic one was never a penalty it looks as if it doesn't even hit Webster on his hand but his hip.
The Hearts penalty in my opinion wasn't a penalty but I can understand why some people would say it was as it looks to have hit off 2 players hand and Ledley goes in with his hand held above his head outstreched from his body. In my opinion not a penalty but that is a matter of opinion. Celtic goal, not about opinion it is a certainty, cold hard fact, stonewall offside. I can understand why the linesman wouldn't see it and but definate offside. At most Celtic got one decision definately their way and Hearts got one depending on your opinion as to what is deliberate handball. Feck why would the toothfairy not exist? |
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ALWAYS CHEATED ,NEVER DEFEATED-THE CELTIC WAY
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They raised thier heads like vultures , trying to line thier pockets with loose change from a sick club with rule changes that defied belief , They have not once done anything to help the club and indeed the future off scottish football ,
What they didnt expect or forsee is the immediate and angry reaction of fans groups and the boycott off away matches which WOULD happen , Cant see past thier free lunches and jollys abroad , now everyone in scottish football sees the narrow mindedness of our governing body |