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Will do this with £300 til end of season . Max Stake is 3%, £9 per match
Purpose to test the ratings, which if accurate should identify value bets . So try and get as many bets on as possible, starting with England this weekend ,but will try some other leagues too.
Inaccurate ratings will lead to inaccurate odds compiling, poor value bets, and inevitable losses. By placing many bets will have enough data to adjust ratings as results suggest so should improve accuracy overtime.
Premier League Ratings
Purpose to test the ratings, which if accurate should identify value bets . So try and get as many bets on as possible, starting with England this weekend ,but will try some other leagues too.
Inaccurate ratings will lead to inaccurate odds compiling, poor value bets, and inevitable losses. By placing many bets will have enough data to adjust ratings as results suggest so should improve accuracy overtime.
Premier League Ratings
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Man City | 100.0 | Aston Villa | 85.5 | |
| Man United | 99.5 | Stoke | 85.0 | |
| Tottenham | 97.0 | West Brom | 84.5 | |
| Arsenal | 96.5 | Norwich | 84.5 | |
| Chelsea | 96.5 | Swansea | 84.0 | |
| Liverpool | 96.0 | Blackburn | 83.0 | |
| Everton | 88.0 | QPR | 83.0 | |
| Newcastle | 87.5 | Bolton | 82.5 | |
| Fulham | 86.0 | Wigan | 82.0 | |
| Sunderland | 85.5 | Wolves | 81.5 |
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£2 Wigan@8.6
£9 Man City@1.15
1.05 is probably rather short for City as page 6 table seems to overstate the fav margin for the big favourites but 1.15 is the sort of odds City were v bottom 3 prem not long back and this is bottom 3 championship, and can't really play a weak team with their squad + they don't have many games left to do much resting for
£5 Norwich@2.56
£2 Sunderland@3.65
£3 Stoke@5.4
£5 (liabilty)Lay,Liverpool@1.88 & £4 Tottenham@4.4
£9 Man City@1.15
1.05 is probably rather short for City as page 6 table seems to overstate the fav margin for the big favourites but 1.15 is the sort of odds City were v bottom 3 prem not long back and this is bottom 3 championship, and can't really play a weak team with their squad + they don't have many games left to do much resting for
£5 Norwich@2.56
£2 Sunderland@3.65
£3 Stoke@5.4
£5 (liabilty)Lay,Liverpool@1.88 & £4 Tottenham@4.4
£7 Malaga@3.65 v Valladolid . Not time to post my odds as forget about this but would have Malaga favs by my ratings
| Match | P/L | Bet 1 | Bet 2 | Stake | Return | Tot.Stk. | Tot.Ret. | ROI | Bank | Com.Tot. | ||||||
| 216 | Southampton v QPR | £10.73 | £3 Lay,Southampton@1.86 | £2 QPR@4.9 | £5.00 | £15.73 | £1,037.00 | £938.42 | 90.49% | £201.42 | £28.01 | |||||
| 217 | Wigan v Liverpool | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Liverpool@1.81 | £2 Wigan@4.8 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,041.00 | £938.42 | 90.15% | £197.42 | £28.01 | |||||
| 218 | Osasuna v Athletic Bilbao | £4.56 | £2 Athletic Bilbao@3.4 | £2.00 | £6.56 | £1,043.00 | £944.98 | 90.60% | £201.98 | £28.25 | ||||||
| 219 | Valencia v Levante | £2.00 | £2 Levante@7.2 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,045.00 | £944.98 | 90.43% | £199.98 | £28.25 | ||||||
| 220 | Granada v Mallorca | £6.08 | £2 Mallorca@4.2 | £2.00 | £8.08 | £1,047.00 | £953.06 | 91.03% | £206.06 | £28.57 | ||||||
| 221 | Espanyol v Valladolid | £2.42 | £4 Lay,Espanyol@1.88 | £2 Valladolid@4.8 | £6.00 | £8.42 | ||||||||||
| 222 | Tottenham v Arsenal | £2.81 | £2 Tottenham@2.48 | £2.00 | £4.81 | £1,055.00 | £966.29 | 91.59% | £211.29 | £28.85 | ||||||
| 223 | Malaga v Athletico Madrid | £3.00 | £3 Malaga@3.4 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,058.00 | £966.29 | 91.33% | £208.29 | £28.85 | ||||||
| 224 | Sociedad v Betis | £2.00 | £2 Betis@4.8 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,060.00 | £966.29 | 91.16% | £206.29 | £28.85 | ||||||
| 225 | Aston Villa v Man City | £2.00 | £2 Aston Villa@8.6 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,062.00 | £966.29 | 90.99% | £204.29 | £28.85 | ||||||
| 226 | Juventus v Celtic | £2.99 | £7 Juventus@1.45 | £7.00 | £9.99 | £1,069.00 | £976.28 | 91.33% | £207.28 | £29.01 | ||||||
| 227 | Everton v Wigan | £14.44 | £2 Wigan@8.6 | £2.00 | £16.44 | £1,071.00 | £992.72 | 92.69% | £221.72 | £29.77 | ||||||
| 228 | Norwich v Southampton | £8.00 | £8 Norwich@2.65 | £8.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 229 | QPR v Sunderland | £2.00 | £2 Sunderland@3.65 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,081.00 | £992.72 | 91.83% | £211.72 | £29.77 | ||||||
| 230 | Valladolid v Malaga | £7.00 | £7 Malaga@3.65 | £7.00 | £0.00 | £1,088.00 | £992.72 | 91.24% | £204.72 | £29.77 | ||||||
| 231 | Man City v Barnsley | £1.28 | £9 Man City@1.15 | £9.00 | £10.28 | £1,097.00 | £1,003.00 | 91.43% | £206.00 | £29.84 |
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Barcelona | 107.0 | Levante | 86.0 | |
| Real Madrid | 104.5 | Rayo Vallecano | 86.0 | |
| Athletico Madrid | 97.5 | Valladolid | 85.0 | |
| Malaga | 92.5 | Osasuna | 85.0 | |
| Valencia | 92.5 | Espanyol | 83.5 | |
| Seville | 90.0 | Zaragoza | 83.0 | |
| Real Sociedad | 89.5 | Celta Vigo | 83.0 | |
| Betis | 87.5 | Mallorca | 83.0 | |
| Athletic Bilbao | 87.0 | Granada | 83.0 | |
| Getafe | 86.5 | Deportivo La Coruna | 82.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 3.01 | Athletic Bilbao | 3.48 | Valencia | 2.63 | ||
| 2.36 | Levante | 3.6 | Getafe | 3.35 | ||
| 14.8 | Celta Vigo | 6.5 | Real Madrid | 1.28 | ||
| 1.54 | Athletico Madrid | 4.75 | Real Sociedad | 7.06 | ||
| 2.29 | Zaragoza | 3.63 | Granada | 3.47 |
£5.99 (liabilty) Lay, Draw@3.25 Levante v Getafe
incredible plunge on the draw to 3.25
Don't normally see that other than in last few games of the season when clubs do each other 'favours'.Hope this is not one of those sort of games...
incredible plunge on the draw to 3.25
Don't normally see that other than in last few games of the season when clubs do each other 'favours'.Hope this is not one of those sort of games...
ffs what am i doing , the draw never reached that low but i thought it was matched when i'd actually layed Getafe , Cancelled that one now 
Page 6 Conversion Table miscalculated so scrapped that and done another
| Differential | Team 1 | Draw | Team 2 | Differential | Team 1 | Draw | Team 2 | Differential | Team 1 | Draw | Team 2 | |||||
| 0 | 2.83 | 3.40 | 2.83 | 10.5 | 1.69 | 4.24 | 5.8 | 21 | 1.26 | 7.3 | 14.43 | |||||
| 0.5 | 2.76 | 3.43 | 2.89 | 11 | 1.66 | 4.4 | 6.02 | 21.5 | 1.25 | 7.5 | 14.99 | |||||
| 1 | 2.7 | 3.45 | 2.94 | 11.5 | 1.63 | 4.4 | 6.28 | 22 | 1.24 | 7.7 | 15.72 | |||||
| 1.5 | 2.63 | 3.48 | 3.01 | 12 | 1.60 | 4.5 | 6.54 | 22.5 | 1.23 | 7.9 | 16.56 | |||||
| 2 | 2.57[ | 3.5 | 3.08 | 12.5[ | 1.57 | 4.6 | 6.86 | 23 | 1.22 | 8.1 | 17.61 | |||||
| 2.5 | 2.50 | 3.52 | 3.17 | [13 | 1.55 | 4.7 | 7.04 | 23.5 | 1.21 | 8.3 | 18.8 | |||||
| 3 | 2.43 | 3.55 | 3.26 | 13.5 | 1.53 | 4.8 | 7.24 | 24 | 1.20 | 8.55 | 20.1 | |||||
| 3.5 | 2.36 | 3.57 | 3.38 | 14 | 1.50 | 4.9 | 7.74 | 24.5 | 1.19 | 8.8 | 21.7 | |||||
| 4 | 2.29 | 3.60 | 3.50 | 14.5 | 1.48 | 5 | 8.05 | 25 | 1.18 | 9.1 | 23.5 | |||||
| 4.5 | 2.23 | 3.63 | 3.62 | 15 | 1.46 | 5.12 | 8.35 | 25.5 | 1.17 | 9.4 | 25.6 | |||||
| 5 | 2.16 | 3.66 | 3.79 | 15.5 | 1.44 | 5.24 | 8.71 | 26 | 1.16 | 9.8 | 27.9 | |||||
| 5.5 | 2.10 | 3.69 | 3.96 | 16 | 1.42 | 5.36 | 9.16 | 26.5 | 1.15 | 10.3 | 30 | |||||
| 6 | 2.05 | 3.72 | 4.11 | 16.5 | 1.40 | 5.48 | 9.69 | 27 | 1.14 | 10.9 | 32.1 | |||||
| 6.5 | 2.00 | 3.75 | 4.29 | 17 | 1.38 | 5.6 | 10.33 | 27.5 | 1.13 | 11.6 | 34.7 | |||||
| 7 | 1.96 | 3.78 | 4.4 | 17.5 | 1.36 | 5.75 | 11.01 | 28 | 1.12 | 12.4 | 37.7 | |||||
| 7.5 | 1.92 | 3.82 | 4.6 | 18 | 1.34 | 5.92 | 11.79 | 28.5 | 1.11 | 13.3 | 42 | |||||
| 8 | 1.88 | 3.87 | 4.77 | 18.5 | 1.32 | 6.15 | 12.53 | 29 | 1.10 | 14.4 | 47 | |||||
| 8.5 | 1.84 | 3.93 | 4.95 | 19 | 1.30 | 6.4 | 13.42 | 29.5 | 1.09 | 15.8 | 52 | |||||
| 9 | 1.80 | 4.0 | 5.14 | 19.5 | 1.29 | 6.6 | 13.64 | 30 | 1.08 | 17.6 | 58 | |||||
| 9.5 | 1.76 | 4.08 | 5.36 | 20 | 1.28 | 6.8 | 13.97 | 30.5 | 1.07 | 20 | 65 | |||||
| 10 | 1.72 | 4.16 | 5.61 | 20.5 | 1.27 | 7.05 | 14.12 | 31 | 1.06 | 23 | 76 |
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Barcelona | 107.0 | Arsenal | 94.0 | |
| Bayern Munich | 102.5 | AC Milan | 93.5 | |
| Porto | 94.5 | Malaga | 92.5 | |
| Schalke | 94.0 | Galatasaray | 89.0 |
Rate Arsenal 93.0 with Wilshere out
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 1.36 | Barcelona | 5.75 | AC Milan | 11.01 | ||
| 1.80 | Schalke | 4 | Galatasaray | 5.14 | ||
| 1.53 | Bayern Munich | 4.8 | Arsenal | 7.24 | ||
| 2.50 | Malaga | 3.52 | Porto | 3.17 |
miscalculated the Malaga one
£3 Malaga @2.98, currently 2.90
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.57 | QPR | 3.5 | Norwich | 3.08 |
£3 Malaga @2.98, currently 2.90
the 83p commission from Saturday's winners was given back because of the site problems
| Match | P/L | Bet 1 | Bet 2 | Stake | Return | Tot.Stk. | Tot.Ret. | ROI | Bank | Com.Tot. | ||||||
| 223 | Malaga v Athletico Madrid | £3.00 | £3 Malaga@3.4 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,058.00 | £966.29 | 91.33% | £208.29 | £28.85 | ||||||
| 224 | Sociedad v Betis | £2.00 | £2 Betis@4.8 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,060.00 | £966.29 | 91.16% | £206.29 | £28.85 | ||||||
| 225 | Aston Villa v Man City | £2.00 | £2 Aston Villa@8.6 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,062.00 | £966.29 | 90.99% | £204.29 | £28.85 | ||||||
| 226 | Juventus v Celtic | £2.99 | £7 Juventus@1.45 | £7.00 | £9.99 | £1,069.00 | £976.28 | 91.33% | £207.28 | £29.01 | ||||||
| 227 | Everton v Wigan | £14.44 | £2 Wigan@8.6 | £2.00 | £16.44 | £1,071.00 | £992.72 | 92.69% | £221.72 | £29.77 | ||||||
| 228 | Norwich v Southampton | £8.00 | £8 Norwich@2.65 | £8.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 229 | QPR v Sunderland | £2.00 | £2 Sunderland@3.65 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,081.00 | £992.72 | 91.83% | £211.72 | £29.77 | ||||||
| 230 | Valladolid v Malaga | £7.00 | £7 Malaga@3.65 | £7.00 | £0.00 | £1,088.00 | £992.72 | 91.24% | £204.72 | £29.77 | ||||||
| 231 | Man City v Barnsley | £1.28 | £9 Man City@1.15 | £9.00 | £10.28 | £1,097.00 | £1,003.00 | 91.43% | £206.00 | £29.84 | ||||||
| 232 | Newcastle v Stoke | £3.00 | £3 Stoke@5.4 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,100.00 | £1,003.83 | 91.26% | £203.83 | £29.01 | ||||||
| 233 | Liverpool v Tottenham | £9.00 | £5 Lay,Liverpool@1.88 | £4 Tottenham@4.4 | £9.00 | £0.00 | £1,109.00 | £1,003.83 | 90.52% | £194.83 | £29.01 | |||||
| 234 | Celta Vigo v Real Madrid | £4.27 | £9 Real Madrid@1.50 | £9.00 | £13.27 | £1,118.00 | £1,017.10 | 90.97% | £199.10 | £29.24 | ||||||
| 235 | Malaga v Porto | £5.64 | £3 Malaga@2.98 | £3.00 | £8.64 | |||||||||||
| 236 | Bayern Munich v Arsenal | £20.97 | £2 Lay,Bayern Munich@1.38 | £2 Arsenal@9.4 | £4.00 | £24.97 | £1,125.00 | £1,050.71 | 93.40% | £225.71 | £30.64 |
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.0 | |
| Man City | 99.5 | Stoke | 84.5 | |
| Chelsea | 96.0 | Norwich | 84.5 | |
| Tottenham | 96.0 | Wigan | 84.0 | |
| Liverpool | 94.5 | West Ham | 84.0 | |
| Arsenal | 94.0 | Sunderland | 83.5 | |
| Everton | 92.0 | Aston Villa | 83.5 | |
| Newcastle | 87.5 | Southampton | 83.0 | |
| Swansea | 87.0 | QPR | 82.5 | |
| West Brom | 86.5 | Reading | 81.5 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 3.38 | Everton | 3.57 | Man City | 2.36 | ||
| 2.16 | Aston Villa | 3.66 | QPR | 3.79 | ||
| 4.6 | Southampton | 3.82 | Liverpool | 1.92 | ||
| 2.59 | Stoke | 3.34 | West Brom | 3.17 | ||
| 3.38 | Swansea | 3.57 | Arsenal | 2.36 | ||
| 1.23 | Man United | 7.9 | Reading | 16.56 | ||
| 2.45 | Sunderland | 3.34 | Norwich | 3.41 | ||
| 1.46 | Tottenham | 5.12 | Fulham | 8.35 | ||
| 2.76 | Wigan | 3.43 | Newcastle | 2.89 | ||
| 1.42 | Chelsea | 5.36 | West Ham | 9.16 |
Page 1 Table for Stoke & Sunderland ,Page 8 for others
most of these some way from being matched
£3 (liability) Lay,Man City@2.04 & £2 Everton@4
£1 (liability) Lay,Man United@1.17 & £2 Reading@24
£3 (liability) Lay,Sunderland@2.06 & £2 Norwich@4.3
£3 (liability) Lay,Wigan@2.32 & £2 Newcastle@3.45
£4 Tottenham@1.58
£3 (liability) Lay,Man City@2.04 & £2 Everton@4
£1 (liability) Lay,Man United@1.17 & £2 Reading@24
£3 (liability) Lay,Sunderland@2.06 & £2 Norwich@4.3
£3 (liability) Lay,Wigan@2.32 & £2 Newcastle@3.45
£4 Tottenham@1.58
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Barcelona | 107.0 | Levante | 86.0 | |
| Real Madrid | 104.5 | Rayo Vallecano | 86.0 | |
| Athletico Madrid | 97.5 | Valladolid | 85.0 | |
| Malaga | 92.5 | Osasuna | 85.0 | |
| Valencia | 92.5 | Espanyol | 83.5 | |
| Seville | 90.0 | Zaragoza | 83.0 | |
| Real Sociedad | 90.0 | Celta Vigo | 83.0 | |
| Betis | 87.5 | Mallorca | 83.0 | |
| Athletic Bilbao | 87.0 | Granada | 83.0 | |
| Getafe | 86.5 | Deportivo La Coruna | 82.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.43 | Deportivo La Coruna | 3.55 | Celta Vigo | 3.26 | ||
| 1.80 | Real Sociedad | 4 | Valladolid | 5.14 | ||
| 2.36 | Getafe | 3.57 | Athletic Bilbao | 3.38 | ||
| 1.17 | Real Madrid | 9.4 | Mallorca | 25.6 | ||
| 1.80 | Valencia | 4 | Betis | 5.14 | ||
| 1.55 | Malaga | 4.7 | Espanyol | 7.04 | ||
| 1.66 | Seville | 4.4 | Zaragoza | 6.02 | ||
| 4.95 | Osasuna | 3.93 | Athletico Madrid | 1.84 | ||
| 1.18 | Barcelona | 9.1 | Rayo Vallecano | 23.5 | ||
| 2.70 | Granada | 3.45 | Levante | 2.94 |
£6.97 (liablity) Lay, Southampton@4.1
£2 Aston Villa@2.44
£2 Aston Villa@2.44
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Juventus | 98.5 | Sampdoria | 85.5 | |
| Napoli | 95.0 | Parma | 85.0 | |
| AC Milan | 94.0 | Torino | 84.5 | |
| Inter | 93.0 | Siena | 84.5 | |
| Lazio | 92.5 | Cagliari | 84.0 | |
| Fiorentina | 92.0 | Atalanta | 84.0 | |
| Roma | 91.5 | Chievo | 83.5 | |
| Udinese | 89.0 | Genoa | 82.0 | |
| Catania | 87.5 | Palermo | 81.5 | |
| Bologna | 85.5 | Pescara | 80.5 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.50 | Catania | 3.52 | Udinese | 3.17 | ||
| 5.14 | Bologna | 4 | Juventus | 1.80 | ||
| 2.23 | Siena | 3.63 | Cagliari | 3.62 | ||
| 1.40 | AC Milan | 5.68 | Palermo | 9.69 | ||
| 1.50 | Fiorentina | 4.9 | Genoa | 7.74 | ||
| 1.46 | Napoli | 5.12 | Atalanta | 8.35 | ||
| 2.76 | Pescara | 3.28 | Chievo | 2.99 | ||
| 1.69 | Roma | 4.24 | Parma | 5.8 | ||
| 3.26 | Sampdoria | 3.55 | Inter | 2.43 | ||
| 3.52 | Torino | 3.48 | Lazio | 2.32 |
Pescara and Torino done with page 1 table , others page 8
£9 Malaga@1.94
£5 (liability) Lay,The Draw@3.25, Siena v Calgari
£2 Palermo@13
£2 Genoa@9.6
£4 Napoli@1.57
£4 (liability) Lay, Chievo@2.54
£2 (liability) Lay, Sevilla@1.42 & £2 Zaragoza@9.6
£3 Athletico Madrid@2.14
£2 Parma@7.2
£5 (liability) Lay,Sampdoria@2.42 & £4 Inter@3.35
£5 (liability) Lay,Torino@2.50 & £4 Lazio@3.35
£6 (liability) Lay,Granada@1.99 & £3 Levante@4.6
£2 (liability) Lay,Barcelona@1.13 & £2 Vallecano@32
£5 (liability) Lay,The Draw@3.25, Siena v Calgari
£2 Palermo@13
£2 Genoa@9.6
£4 Napoli@1.57
£4 (liability) Lay, Chievo@2.54
£2 (liability) Lay, Sevilla@1.42 & £2 Zaragoza@9.6
£3 Athletico Madrid@2.14
£2 Parma@7.2
£5 (liability) Lay,Sampdoria@2.42 & £4 Inter@3.35
£5 (liability) Lay,Torino@2.50 & £4 Lazio@3.35
£6 (liability) Lay,Granada@1.99 & £3 Levante@4.6
£2 (liability) Lay,Barcelona@1.13 & £2 Vallecano@32
disastrous results from all that, will update results table tommorow
page 1 conversion table used for West Ham & Fulham ,Page 8 for others
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.5 | |
| Man City | 99.0 | Stoke | 84.5 | |
| Chelsea | 96.5 | Norwich | 84.5 | |
| Tottenham | 96.0 | Wigan | 84.0 | |
| Liverpool | 94.5 | West Ham | 84.0 | |
| Arsenal | 94.0 | Aston Villa | 84.0 | |
| Everton | 92.0 | Sunderland | 83.5 | |
| Newcastle | 87.5 | Southampton | 83.0 | |
| Swansea | 87.0 | QPR | 82.5 | |
| West Brom | 86.5 | Reading | 81.5 |
page 1 conversion table used for West Ham & Fulham ,Page 8 for others
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 6.86 | Sunderland | 4.6 | Man United | 1.57 | ||
| 1.40 | Arsenal | 5.8 | Reading | 9.69 | ||
| 1.44 | Man City | 5.24 | Newcastle | 8.71 | ||
| 5.36 | Southampton | 4.08 | Chelsea | 1.76 | ||
| 3.79 | Swansea | 3.66 | Tottenham | 2.16 | ||
| 2.67 | West Ham | 3.32 | West Brom | 3.07 | ||
| 2.36 | Wigan | 3.57 | Norwich | 3.38 | ||
| 1.63 | Everton | 4.4 | Stoke | 6.28 | ||
| 4.11 | Aston Villa | 3.72 | Liverpool | 2.05 | ||
| 2.00 | Fulham | 3.70 | QPR | 4.3 |
£2 (liability) Lay,Arsenal@1.27 & £2 Reading@14.5
£6 (liability) Lay, Draw@3.9 , Everton v Stoke
£2 (liability) Lay,Man City@1.33 & £2 Newcastle@12.5
£6 Chelsea@2.26
£2 Tottenham@2.44
£3 West Brom@3.75
£2 (liability) Lay,Wigan@1.97 & £2 Norwich@4.6
£2 (liability) Lay,Liverpool@1.73 & £2 Aston Villa@5.3
£6 (liability) Lay, Draw@3.9 , Everton v Stoke
£2 (liability) Lay,Man City@1.33 & £2 Newcastle@12.5
£6 Chelsea@2.26
£2 Tottenham@2.44
£3 West Brom@3.75
£2 (liability) Lay,Wigan@1.97 & £2 Norwich@4.6
£2 (liability) Lay,Liverpool@1.73 & £2 Aston Villa@5.3
this is the worst run i've ever had , or seen anyone have on football betting , good thing only small stakes| Match | P/L | Bet 1 | Bet 2 | Stake | Return | Tot.Stk. | Tot.Ret. | ROI | Bank | Com.Tot. | ||||||
| 235 | Malaga v Porto | £5.64 | £3 Malaga@2.98 | £3.00 | £8.64 | |||||||||||
| 236 | Bayern Munich v Arsenal | £20.97 | £2 Lay,Bayern Munich@1.38 | £2 Arsenal@9.4 | £4.00 | £24.97 | £1,125.00 | £1,050.71 | 93.40% | £225.71 | £30.64 | |||||
| 237 | Everton v Man City | £8.44 | £3 Lay,Man City@2.04 | £2 Everton@4 | £5.00 | £13.44 | £1,130.00 | £1,064.15 | 94.17% | £234.15 | £31.08 | |||||
| 238 | Sociedad v Valladolid | £3.94 | £1.94 Lay,Sociedad@1.61 | £2 Valladolid@7 | £3.94 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 239 | Southampton v Liverpool | £6.98 | £6.98Lay,Southampton@4.1 | £6.98 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 240 | Stoke v West Brom | £3.00 | £3 Stoke@2.94 | £3.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 241 | Aston Villa v QPR | £2.74 | £2 Aston Villa@2.44 | £2.00 | £4.74 | £1,145.92 | £1,068.89 | 93.28% | £222.97 | £31.22 | ||||||
| 242 | Man United v Reading | £4.01 | £2.01 Lay,Man United@1.16 | £2 Reading@24 | £4.01 | £0.00 | £1,149.93 | £1,068.89 | 92.95% | £218.96 | £31.22 | |||||
| 243 | Bologna v Juventus | £2.00 | £2 Bologna@5.8 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,151.93 | £1,068.89 | 92.79% | £216.96 | £31.22 | ||||||
| 244 | Valencia v Betis | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Valencia@1.67 | £2 Betis@6.2 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,155.93 | £1,068.89 | 92.47% | £212.96 | £31.22 | |||||
| 245 | Malaga v Espanyol | £9.00 | £9 Malaga@1.94 | £9.00 | £0.00 | £1,164.93 | £1,068.89 | 91.76% | £203.96 | £31.22 | ||||||
| 246 | Siena v Cagliari | £5.00 | £5 Lay,Draw@3.25 | £5.00 | £0.00 | £1,169.93 | £1,068.89 | 91.36% | £198.96 | £31.22 | ||||||
| 247 | Sunderland v Norwich | £0.79 | £3 Lay,Sunderland@2.06 | £2 Norwich@4.3 | £5.00 | £5.79 | £1,174.93 | £1,074.68 | 91.47% | £199.75 | £31.26 | |||||
| 248 | Napoli v Atalanta | £2.17 | £4 Napoli@1.57 | £4.00 | £6.17 | |||||||||||
| 249 | Pescara v Chievo | £4.00 | £4Lay,Chievo@2.54 | £4.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 250 | Fiorentina v Genoa | £2.00 | £2 Genoa@9.6 | £2.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 251 | AC Milan v Palermo | £2.00 | £2 Palermo@13 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,186.93 | £1,080.85 | 91.06% | £193.92 | £31.37 | ||||||
| 252 | Sevilla v Zaragoza | £20.97 | £2 Lay,Sevilla@1.43 | £2 Zaragoza@9.6 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 253 | Wigan v Newcastle | £5.00 | £3 Lay,Wigan@2.32 | £2 Newcastle@3.45 | £5.00 | £0.00 | £1,195.93 | £1,080.85 | 90.38% | £184.92 | £31.37 | |||||
| 254 | Osasuna v Athletico Madrid | £3.25 | £3 Athletico Madrid@2.14 | £3.00 | £6.25 | £1,198.93 | £1,087.10 | 90.67% | £188.17 | £31.54 | ||||||
| 255 | Roma v Parma | £2.00 | £2 Parma@7.2 | £2.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 256 | Torino v Lazio | £9.00 | £5 Lay,Torino@2.50 | £4 Lazio@3.35 | £9.00 | £0.00 | £1,209.93 | £1,087.10 | 89.85% | £177.17 | £31.54 | |||||
| 257 | Barcelona v Rayo Vallecano | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Barcelona@1.13 | £2 Rayo Vallecano@32 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 258 | Granada v Levante | £2.91 | £6 Lay,Granada@1.99 | £3 Levante@4.6 | £9.00 | £11.91 | £1,222.93 | £1,099.01 | 89.87% | £176.08 | £31.69 | |||||
| 259 | Man City v Newcastle | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Man City@1.33 | £2 Newcastle@12.5 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 260 | Arsenal v Reading | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.27 | £2 Reading@14.5 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 261 | Wigan v Norwich | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Wigan @1.97 | £2 Norwich@4.6 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 262 | West Ham v West Brom | £3.00 | £3 West Brom@3.75 | £3.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 263 | Swansea v Tottenham | £2.74 | £2 Tottenham@2.44 | £2.00 | £4.74 | |||||||||||
| 264 | Southampton v Chelsea | £6.00 | £6 Chelsea@2.26 | £6.00 | £0.00 | £1,245.93 | £1,103.75 | 88.59% | £157.82 | £31.83 | ||||||
| 265 | Everton v Stoke | £1.97 | £6 Lay,Draw@3.9 | £6.00 | £7.97 | £1,251.93 | £1,111.72 | 88.80% | £159.79 | £31.93 | ||||||
| 266 | Aston Villa v Liverpool | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Liverpool@1.73 | £2 Aston Villa@5.3 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,255.93 | £1,111.72 | 88.52% | £155.79 | £31.93 |
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Barcelona | 107.0 | Juventus | 99.0 | |
| Real Madrid | 104.5 | Paris St Germain | 95.0 | |
| Bayern Munich | 103.0 | Malaga | 92.5 | |
| Borrussia Dortmund | 100.0 | Galatasaray | 90.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 4.77 | Paris St Germain | 3.87 | Barcelona | 1.88 | ||
| 1.88 | Bayern Munich | 3.87 | Juventus | 4.77 | ||
| 1.32 | Real Madrid | 6.15 | Galatasaray | 12.53 | ||
| 3.38 | Malaga | 3.57 | Borrussia Dortmund | 2.36 |
of course lost £4.00 on match 252
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Bayern Munich@1.65 & £2 Juventus@6.6
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Real Madrid@1.19 & £2 Galatasaray@22
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Bayern Munich@1.65 & £2 Juventus@6.6
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Real Madrid@1.19 & £2 Galatasaray@22
didn't think the prices were different enough from mine . Have to be more choosy with half a bank 
| Match | P/L | Bet 1 | Bet 2 | Stake | Return | Tot.Stk. | Tot.Ret. | ROI | Bank | Com.Tot. | ||||||
| 252 | Sevilla v Zaragoza | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Sevilla@1.43 | £2 Zaragoza@9.6 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 253 | Wigan v Newcastle | £5.00 | £3 Lay,Wigan@2.32 | £2 Newcastle@3.45 | £5.00 | £0.00 | £1,195.93 | £1,080.85 | 90.38% | £184.92 | £31.37 | |||||
| 254 | Osasuna v Athletico Madrid | £3.25 | £3 Athletico Madrid@2.14 | £3.00 | £6.25 | £1,198.93 | £1,087.10 | 90.67% | £188.17 | £31.54 | ||||||
| 255 | Roma v Parma | £2.00 | £2 Parma@7.2 | £2.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 256 | Torino v Lazio | £9.00 | £5 Lay,Torino@2.50 | £4 Lazio@3.35 | £9.00 | £0.00 | £1,209.93 | £1,087.10 | 89.85% | £177.17 | £31.54 | |||||
| 257 | Barcelona v Rayo Vallecano | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Barcelona@1.13 | £2 Rayo Vallecano@32 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 258 | Granada v Levante | £2.91 | £6 Lay,Granada@1.99 | £3 Levante@4.6 | £9.00 | £11.91 | £1,222.93 | £1,099.01 | 89.87% | £176.08 | £31.69 | |||||
| 259 | Man City v Newcastle | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Man City@1.33 | £2 Newcastle@12.5 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 260 | Arsenal v Reading | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.27 | £2 Reading@14.5 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 261 | Wigan v Norwich | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Wigan @1.97 | £2 Norwich@4.6 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 262 | West Ham v West Brom | £3.00 | £3 West Brom@3.75 | £3.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 263 | Swansea v Tottenham | £2.74 | £2 Tottenham@2.44 | £2.00 | £4.74 | |||||||||||
| 264 | Southampton v Chelsea | £6.00 | £6 Chelsea@2.26 | £6.00 | £0.00 | £1,245.93 | £1,103.75 | 88.59% | £157.82 | £31.83 | ||||||
| 265 | Everton v Stoke | £1.97 | £6 Lay,Draw@3.9 | £6.00 | £7.97 | £1,251.93 | £1,111.72 | 88.80% | £159.79 | £31.93 | ||||||
| 266 | Aston Villa v Liverpool | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Liverpool@1.73 | £2 Aston Villa@5.3 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,255.93 | £1,111.72 | 88.52% | £155.79 | £31.93 | |||||
| 267 | Bayern Munich v Juventus | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Bayern Munich@1.65 | £2 Juventus@6.6 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,259.93 | £1,111.72 | 88.24% | £151.79 | £31.93 | |||||
| 268 | Real Madrid v Galatasaray | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Real Madrid@1.19 | £2 Galatasaray@22 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,263.93 | £1,111.72 | 87.96% | £147.79 | £31.93 |
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.5 | |||
| Man City | 99.0 | Stoke | 84.5 | |||
| Chelsea | 96.5 | Norwich | 84.0 | |||
| Tottenham | 96.0 | Wigan | 84.0 | |||
| Liverpool | 94.5 | West Ham | 84.0 | |||
| Arsenal | 94.5 | Sunderland | 83.5 | |||
| Everton | 92.0 | Aston Villa | 83.5 | |||
| Newcastle | 87.0 | Southampton | 83.5 | |||
| Swansea | 87.0 | QPR | 82.5 | |||
| West Brom | 86.5 | Reading | 81.5 | |||
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 3.92 | Reading | 3.60 | Southampton | 2.13 | ||
| 2.04 | Norwich | 3.66 | Swansea | 4.21 | ||
| 1.45 | Stoke | 4.90 | Aston Villa | 9.26 | ||
| 5.78 | West Brom | 3.96 | Arsenal | 1.74 | ||
| 2.59 | Liverpool | 3.34 | West Ham | 3.17 | ||
| 1.88 | Tottenham | 3.81 | Everton | 4.87 | ||
| 2.26 | Chelsea | 3.48 | Sunderland | 3.64 | ||
| 1.78 | Newcastle | 3.92 | Fulham | 5.53 | ||
| 4.67 | QPR | 3.77 | Wigan | 1.92 | ||
| 3.25 | Man United | 3.37 | Man City | 2.52 |
page 1 conversion table for Norwic and Stoke games,page 8 for others
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.57 | Reading | 3.50 | Southampton | 3.08 | ||
| 2.76 | Norwich | 3.28 | Swansea | 2.99 | ||
| 2.19 | Stoke | 3.57 | Aston Villa | 3.78 | ||
| 3.50 | West Brom | 3.60 | Arsenal | 2.29 | ||
| 1.48 | Liverpool | 5 | West Ham | 8.05 | ||
| 2.05 | Tottenham | 3.72 | Everton | 4.11 | ||
| 1.38 | Chelsea | 5.6 | Sunderland | 10.33 | ||
| 2.10 | Newcastle | 3.69 | Fulham | 3.96 | ||
| 2.50 | QPR | 3.52 | Wigan | 3.17 | ||
| 2.16 | Man United | 3.66 | Man City | 3.79 |
Have you adjusted Tottenhams rating based on Bale not playing?
Cool. 
Should be interesting to see how they cope without him.
Should be interesting to see how they cope without him.
the key thing is not how good the player missing is as such, more the difference between him and the player that comes in
You'd think it would be necessary to drop Barca's rating by a lot with Messi out , but they replace him with Fabregas , who showed how he can play the Messi position better than anyone other than Messi himself (people seemed to think Fab was an alternate for Iniesta or Xavi, but he can't realy do what they do so good ,but they would not be such good replacements for Messi)
Yes it will be intriguing to see what Spurs do without Bale as i'm not sure how they replace him but a drop of 2.0 seems about right.
As for this whole thread , the ratings and Page 8 conversion Table seem much better to me , rarely do my odds seem silly in comparison to the markets (so i struggle to find a bet in England more) but the results have been terrible lately as whenever i'm out of line i seem to lose big .
The losing does affect confidence ; as subconsciously try to limit bets and missed out on some ; the draw in Norwich/Swansea was a bet on my ratings but i can't recall considering it . I'd have made Betis favs v Granada by the ratings (they were available @3.25 and won 4-0) but not much enthusiasm for pricing up leagues when on a disastrous run.
The main flaws this has revealed are how slow i am to adjust ratings when they are wrong (notably Espanyol & Southampton, but several others no doubt) and this will all have to be revised if i am ever to resume football match odds betting with serious money.
As it is though i'll carry on with the same methods on this thread till the bank falls to £1.99
You'd think it would be necessary to drop Barca's rating by a lot with Messi out , but they replace him with Fabregas , who showed how he can play the Messi position better than anyone other than Messi himself (people seemed to think Fab was an alternate for Iniesta or Xavi, but he can't realy do what they do so good ,but they would not be such good replacements for Messi)
Yes it will be intriguing to see what Spurs do without Bale as i'm not sure how they replace him but a drop of 2.0 seems about right.
As for this whole thread , the ratings and Page 8 conversion Table seem much better to me , rarely do my odds seem silly in comparison to the markets (so i struggle to find a bet in England more) but the results have been terrible lately as whenever i'm out of line i seem to lose big .
The losing does affect confidence ; as subconsciously try to limit bets and missed out on some ; the draw in Norwich/Swansea was a bet on my ratings but i can't recall considering it . I'd have made Betis favs v Granada by the ratings (they were available @3.25 and won 4-0) but not much enthusiasm for pricing up leagues when on a disastrous run.
The main flaws this has revealed are how slow i am to adjust ratings when they are wrong (notably Espanyol & Southampton, but several others no doubt) and this will all have to be revised if i am ever to resume football match odds betting with serious money.
As it is though i'll carry on with the same methods on this thread till the bank falls to £1.99
may as well do some bets, though none of them seem especially great value, they are just somewhat bigger than i make them
£2 (liabilty) Lay, Liverpool@1.37 & £2 West Ham@10.5
£2 Sunderland@12
£2 Tottenham@2.28
the QPR & Newcastle games are pretty much the same odds i have
£2 (liabilty) Lay, Liverpool@1.37 & £2 West Ham@10.5
£2 Sunderland@12
£2 Tottenham@2.28
the QPR & Newcastle games are pretty much the same odds i have
Tober, destroying some piss poor team in Spain is one thing but could Cesc do it against the best? I doubt it
Even if you could make consistent profit you would then have to pay premium tax right?
Probably not as even if it was succesful the % of winning markets would likely be below 40% . Not that the premium charge is a pressing concern with this thread
£3 Real Madrid@1.81 (not matched , doubt it'll get that high but mot worth backing below imo)
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Borrussia Dortmund@1.43 & £2 Malaga@9.2
this thread | Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Barcelona | 107.0 | Juventus | 99.0 | |
| Real Madrid | 104.5 | Paris St Germain | 95.0 | |
| Bayern Munich | 103.5 | Malaga | 92.0 | |
| Borrussia Dortmund | 100.0 | Galatasaray | 90.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 5.8 | Galatasaray | 4.24 | Real Madrid | 1.69 | ||
| 1.60 | Borrussia Dortmund | 4.5 | Malaga | 6.54 | ||
| 2.89 | Juventus | 3.43 | Bayern Munich | 2.76 | ||
| 1.42 | Barcelona | 5.36 | Paris St Germain | 9.16 |
£3 Real Madrid@1.81 (not matched , doubt it'll get that high but mot worth backing below imo)
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Borrussia Dortmund@1.43 & £2 Malaga@9.2
To answer my last point, not on this evidence. Barca are not providing much, not a shot on target!
yeah Fab did not have a good night
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Chelsea | 96.5 | Rubin Kazan | 90.0 | |
| Tottenham | 95.5 | Fenerbahce | 88.0 | |
| Benfica | 94.5 | Newcastle | 87.0 | |
| Lazio | 91.5 | Basel | 86.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 3.92 | Rubin Kazan | 3.60 | Chelsea | 2.13 | ||
| 2.04 | Basel | 3.66 | Tottenham | 4.21 | ||
| 1.45 | Lazio | 4.90 | Fenerbahce | 9.26 | ||
| 5.78 | Newcastle | 3.96 | Benfica | 1.74 |
correct odds
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 3.17 | Rubin Kazan | 3.52 | Chelsea | 2.50 | ||
| 3.38 | Basel | 3.57 | Tottenham | 2.36 | ||
| 1.92 | Lazio | 3.82 | Fenerbahce | 4.6 | ||
| 3.38 | Newcastle | 3.57 | Benfica | 2.36 |
Lot of injuries for spurs (including Bale) - not sure could back them that price away?
You know this is all completely pointless if your "ratings" and "correct odds" are regulary wrong (which they are)
I guess it's subjective though.
GL
I guess it's subjective though.
GL
it's not pointless Stringer as the point is to imrove the ratings/prices over time (though not much evidence lately tbh)
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.5 | |
| Man City | 99.5 | West Ham | 84.5 | |
| Chelsea | 96.5 | Norwich | 84.0 | |
| Tottenham | 95.5 | Wigan | 84.0 | |
| Liverpool | 94.5 | Stoke | 84.0 | |
| Arsenal | 94.5 | Aston Villa | 84.0 | |
| Everton | 92.0 | Sunderland | 83.5 | |
| Newcastle | 87.0 | Southampton | 83.5 | |
| Swansea | 87.0 | QPR | 82.5 | |
| West Brom | 86.5 | Reading | 81.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 1.48 | Arsenal | 5 | Norwich | 8.05 | ||
| 2.57 | Aston Villa | 3.50 | Fulham | 3.08 | ||
| 1.53 | Everton | 4.8 | QPR | 7.24 | ||
| 5.36 | Reading | 4.08 | Liverpool | 1.76 | ||
| 2.43 | Southampton | 3.55 | West Ham | 3.26 |
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.30 & £2 Norwich@14
£2 Fulham@3.55
£2 (liabilty) Lay, Southampton@1.81 & £2 West Ham@5
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Liverpool@1.47 & £2 Reading@8
£2 Fulham@3.55
£2 (liabilty) Lay, Southampton@1.81 & £2 West Ham@5
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Liverpool@1.47 & £2 Reading@8
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Man City | 99.5 | Wigan | 84.0 | |
| Chelsea | 96.5 | Millwall | 78.5 |
used page 1 table for FA Cup as Wembley usually dull
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.13 | Wigan | 3.60 | Millwall | 3.92 | ||
| 2.45 | Man City | 3.41 | Chelsea | 3.34 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 1.92 | Newcastle | 3.82 | Sunderland | 4.86 | ||
| 6.5 | Stoke | 4.1 | Man United | 1.66 |
no bets there
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Juventus | 99.0 | Sampdoria | 85.0 | |
| Napoli | 95.0 | Parma | 85.0 | |
| AC Milan | 94.0 | Torino | 84.5 | |
| Inter | 92.5 | Siena | 84.5 | |
| Lazio | 92.0 | Cagliari | 84.5 | |
| Fiorentina | 92.0 | Atalanta | 84.5 | |
| Roma | 91.0 | Chievo | 83.5 | |
| Udinese | 89.0 | Genoa | 82.0 | |
| Catania | 87.5 | Palermo | 82.0 | |
| Bologna | 85.0 | Pescara | 80.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.70 | Palermo | 3.45 | Bologna | 2.94 | ||
| 3.50 | Cagliari | 3.60 | Inter | 2.29 | ||
| 2.83 | Chievo | 3.40 | Catania | 2.83 | ||
| 2.70 | Genoa | 3.45 | Sampdoria | 2.94 | ||
| 2.83 | Parma | 3.40 | Udinese | 2.83 | ||
| 3.17 | Torino | 3.52 | Roma | 2.50 | ||
| 2.43 | AC Milan | 3.55 | Napoli | 3.26 | ||
| 3.26 | Lazio | 3.55 | Juventus | 2.43 |
£3 Bologna@4.5
£2 Inter@2.68
£2 Catania@3.7
£3 Udinese@4.5
£2 Napoli@4
£3 Lazio@4.5
£2 Inter@2.68
£2 Catania@3.7
£3 Udinese@4.5
£2 Napoli@4
£3 Lazio@4.5
£5 Barcelona@1.58 v Zaragoza, would make them 1.28 with normal team, can't think what team they could put out that wouldn't be value at these odds
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.36 | Mallorca | 3.57 | Celta Vigo | 3.38 |
£2 Celta Vigo@4.2
never knew that, they could have done with him i guess
Stu, the 100 rating is what i'd class as an average winner of the premier league over the last 20 years or so . Maybe Barca at their peak 109, typical relegation candidate about 83. On this thread i have rated a lot of teams i don't know a whole lot about (as with above example of C Vigo) , so the ratings have often been way out ,hence the inaccurate odds and poor results. Though had really appalling luck on this thread that has gone on since last May (injury time goals so one sided quite unbelievable), though not too bothered because of the small stakes ,and now i'd say the ratings/prices are much better.
Stu, the 100 rating is what i'd class as an average winner of the premier league over the last 20 years or so . Maybe Barca at their peak 109, typical relegation candidate about 83. On this thread i have rated a lot of teams i don't know a whole lot about (as with above example of C Vigo) , so the ratings have often been way out ,hence the inaccurate odds and poor results. Though had really appalling luck on this thread that has gone on since last May (injury time goals so one sided quite unbelievable), though not too bothered because of the small stakes ,and now i'd say the ratings/prices are much better.
| Match | P/L | Bet 1 | Bet 2 | Stake | Return | Tot.Stk. | Tot.Ret. | ROI | Bank | Com.Tot. | ||||||
| 268 | Real Madrid v Galatasaray | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Real Madrid@1.19 | £2 Galatasaray@22 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,263.93 | £1,111.72 | 87.96% | £147.79 | £31.93 | |||||
| 269 | Reading v Southampton | £4.00 | £4 Reading@3.45 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,267.93 | £1,111.72 | 87.68% | £143.79 | £31.93 | ||||||
| 270 | West Brom v Arsenal | £2.00 | £2 West Brom@4.3 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,269.93 | £1,111.72 | 87.54% | £141.79 | £31.93 | ||||||
| 271 | Liverpool v West Ham | £3.24 | £2 Lay,Liverpool@1.37 | £2 West Ham@10.5 | £4.00 | £7.24 | £1,273.93 | £1,118.96 | 87.84% | £145.03 | £32.10 | |||||
| 272 | Chelsea v Sunderland | £2.00 | £2 Sunderland@12 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,275.93 | £1,118.96 | 87.70% | £143.03 | £32.10 | ||||||
| 273 | Dortmund v Malaga | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Dortmund@1.43 | £2 Malaga@9.2 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,279.93 | £1,118.96 | 87.44% | £139.03 | £32.10 | |||||
| 274 | Rubin Kazan v Chelsea | £2.00 | £2 Chelsea@2.80 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,281.93 | £1,118.96 | 87.29% | £137.03 | £32.10 | ||||||
| 275 | FC Basel v Tottenham | £4.00 | £4 Tottenham@2.98 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,285.93 | £1,118.96 | 87.02% | £133.03 | £32.10 | ||||||
| 276 | Reading v Liverpool | £2.15 | £2 Lay,Liverpool@1.47 | £2 Reading@8 | £4.00 | £6.15 | ||||||||||
| 277 | Aston Villa v Fulham | £2.00 | £2 Fulham@3.55 | £2.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 278 | Southampton v West Ham | £0.45 | £2 Lay,Southampton@1.81 | £2 West Ham@5 | £4.00 | £4.45 | ||||||||||
| 279 | Arsenal v Norwich | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.30 | £2 Norwich@14 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,299.93 | £1,129.56 | 86.90% | £129.63 | £32.23 | |||||
| 280 | Millwall v Wigan | £2.00 | £2 Millwall@4.6 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,301.93 | £1,129.56 | 86.76% | £127.63 | £32.23 | ||||||
| 281 | Palermo v Bologna | £3.00 | £3 Bologna@4.5 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,304.93 | £1,129.56 | 86.56% | £124.63 | £32.23 | ||||||
| 282 | Cagliari v Inter | £2.00 | £2 Inter@2.68 | £2.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 283 | Parma v Udinese | £9.97 | £3 Udinese@4.5 | £3.00 | £12.97 | |||||||||||
| 284 | Chievo v Catania | £2.00 | £2 Catania@3.7 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,311.93 | £1,142.53 | 87.09% | £130.60 | £32.76 | ||||||
| 285 | Zaragoza v Barcelona | £2.75 | £5 Barcelona@1.58 | £5.00 | £7.75 | £1,316.93 | £1,150.28 | 87.35% | £133.35 | £32.91 | ||||||
| 286 | AC Milan v Napoli | £2.00 | £2 Napoli@4 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,318.93 | £1,150.28 | 87.21% | £131.35 | £32.91 | ||||||
| 287 | Lazio v Juventus | £3.00 | £3 Lazio@4.5 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,321.93 | £1,150.28 | 87.02% | £128.35 | £32.91 | ||||||
| 288 | Mallorca v Celta Vigo | £2.00 | £2 Celta Vigo@4.2 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,323.93 | £1,150.28 | 86.88% | £126.35 | £32.91 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.00 | Arsenal | 3.75 | Everton | 4.29 | ||
| 1.30 | Man City | 6.4 | Wigan | 13.4 | ||
| 6.28 | West Ham | 4.4 | Man United | 1.63 | ||
| 4.4 | Fulham | 3.78 | Chelsea | 1.96 |
£2.07 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.77 & £2 Everton@5.1
£2 Fulham@5
£2 Fulham@5
Thanks for the reply - been interested in using team ratings for while, since following some of the RFO ratings for teams.
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.5 | |
| Man City | 99.5 | Sunderland | 84.5 | |
| Chelsea | 96.5 | West Ham | 84.5 | |
| Tottenham | 95.5 | Wigan | 84.5 | |
| Liverpool | 94.5 | Norwich | 84.0 | |
| Arsenal | 94.5 | Stoke | 84.0 | |
| Everton | 92.0 | Aston Villa | 84.0 | |
| Swansea | 87.0 | Southampton | 84.0 | |
| Newcastle | 86.5 | QPR | 82.5 | |
| West Brom | 86.5 | Reading | 81.0 |
just used page 1 table for QPR/Stoke
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 3.79 | Fulham | 3.66 | Arsenal | 2.16 | ||
| 1.96 | Norwich | 3.78 | Reading | 4.4 | ||
| 2.52 | QPR | 3.37 | Stoke | 3.25 | ||
| 3.38 | Sunderland | 3.57 | Everton | 2.36 | ||
| 1.96 | Swansea | 3.78 | Southampton | 4.4 | ||
| 2.29 | West Brom | 3.60 | Newcastle | 3.50 | ||
| 2.29 | West Ham | 3.60 | Wigan | 3.50 | ||
| 2.83 | Tottenham | 3.40 | Man City | 2.83 | ||
| 2.57 | Liverpool | 3.50 | Chelsea | 3.08 | ||
| 1.29 | Man United | 6.6 | Aston Villa | 13.6 |
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.71 & £2 Fulham@5.7
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Norwich@1.77 & £2 Reading@5.7
£2 Stoke@3.7
£3 Swansea@2.46
£3 Chelsea@3.7
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Norwich@1.77 & £2 Reading@5.7
£2 Stoke@3.7
£3 Swansea@2.46
£3 Chelsea@3.7
injury time goal sequence ever more amazing with one in the 97th minute now
| Match | P/L | Bet 1 | Bet 2 | Stake | Return | Tot.Stk. | Tot.Ret. | ROI | Bank | Com.Tot. | ||||||
| 279 | Arsenal v Norwich | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.30 | £2 Norwich@14 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,299.93 | £1,129.56 | 86.90% | £129.63 | £32.23 | |||||
| 280 | Millwall v Wigan | £2.00 | £2 Millwall@4.6 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,301.93 | £1,129.56 | 86.76% | £127.63 | £32.23 | ||||||
| 281 | Palermo v Bologna | £3.00 | £3 Bologna@4.5 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,304.93 | £1,129.56 | 86.56% | £124.63 | £32.23 | ||||||
| 282 | Cagliari v Inter | £2.00 | £2 Inter@2.68 | £2.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 283 | Parma v Udinese | £9.97 | £3 Udinese@4.5 | £3.00 | £12.97 | |||||||||||
| 284 | Chievo v Catania | £2.00 | £2 Catania@3.7 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,311.93 | £1,142.53 | 87.09% | £130.60 | £32.76 | ||||||
| 285 | Zaragoza v Barcelona | £2.75 | £5 Barcelona@1.58 | £5.00 | £7.75 | £1,316.93 | £1,150.28 | 87.35% | £133.35 | £32.91 | ||||||
| 286 | AC Milan v Napoli | £2.00 | £2 Napoli@4 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,318.93 | £1,150.28 | 87.21% | £131.35 | £32.91 | ||||||
| 287 | Lazio v Juventus | £3.00 | £3 Lazio@4.5 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,321.93 | £1,150.28 | 87.02% | £128.35 | £32.91 | ||||||
| 288 | Mallorca v Celta Vigo | £2.00 | £2 Celta Vigo@4.2 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,323.93 | £1,150.28 | 86.88% | £126.35 | £32.91 | ||||||
| 289 | Arsenal v Everton | £0.66 | £2.07 Lay,Arsenal@1.77 | £2 Everton@5.1 | £4.07 | £4.73 | £1,328.00 | £1,155.01 | 86.97% | £127.01 | £32.94 | |||||
| 290 | Fulham v Chelsea | £2.00 | £2 Fulham@5 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,330.00 | £1,155.01 | 86.84% | £125.01 | £32.94 | ||||||
| 291 | Swansea v Southampton | £3.00 | £3 Swansea@2.46 | £3.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 292 | Fulham v Arsenal | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Arsenal@1.71 | £2 Fulham@5.7 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 293 | Norwich v Reading | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Norwich@1.77 | £2 Reading@5.7 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 294 | QPR v Stoke | £5.13 | £2 Stoke@3.7 | £2.00 | £7.13 | £1,343.00 | £1,162.14 | 86.53% | £119.14 | £33.21 | ||||||
| 295 | Liverpool v Chelsea | £3.00 | £3 Chelsea@3.7 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,346.00 | £1,162.14 | 86.34% | £116.14 | £33.21 |
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Barcelona | 107.0 | Chelsea | 96.5 | |
| Real Madrid | 104.5 | Benfica | 94.5 | |
| Bayern Munich | 104.0 | Fenerbache | 88.0 | |
| Borrussia Dortmund | 100.0 | Basel | 86.5 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.70 | Bayern Munich | 3.45 | Barcelona | 2.94 | ||
| 2.89 | Borrussia Dortmund | 3.43 | Real Madrid | 2.76 | ||
| 4.11 | Basel | 3.72 | Chelsea | 2.05 | ||
| 3.17 | Fenerbache | 3.52 | Benfica | 2.50 |
wow had an injury time winner there
used page 1 table for Stoke and Liverpool rated 92.5 without Suarez
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.5 | |
| Man City | 99.5 | Sunderland | 85.0 | |
| Chelsea | 96.5 | West Ham | 85.0 | |
| Tottenham | 95.5 | Wigan | 84.5 | |
| Liverpool | 94.5 | Norwich | 84.0 | |
| Arsenal | 94.5 | Stoke | 84.0 | |
| Everton | 92.0 | Aston Villa | 84.0 | |
| Swansea | 87.0 | Southampton | 84.0 | |
| Newcastle | 86.5 | QPR | 82.5 | |
| West Brom | 86.5 | Reading | 81.0 |
used page 1 table for Stoke and Liverpool rated 92.5 without Suarez
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 1.32 | Man City | 6.15 | West Ham | 12.5 | ||
| 1.69 | Everton | 4.24 | Fulham | 5.8 | ||
| 2.63 | Southampton | 3.48 | West Brom | 3.01 | ||
| 2.32 | Stoke | 3.48 | Norwich | 3.52 | ||
| 4.4 | Wigan | 3.78 | Tottenham | 1.96 | ||
| 3.08 | Newcastle | 3.50 | Liverpool | 2.57 | ||
| 2.50 | Reading | 3.52 | QPR | 3.17 | ||
| 1.53 | Chelsea | 4.8 | Swansea | 7.24 | ||
| 3.01 | Arsenal | 3.48 | Man United | 2.63 | ||
| 2.43 | Aston Villa | 3.55 | Sunderland | 3.26 |
£2 Draw @6.6,Man City v West Ham(unmatched)
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Everton@1.53 & £2 Fulham@8
£4 West Brom@4.8
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Chelsea@1.38 & £2 Swansea@10.5
£4 Man United@3.4
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Everton@1.53 & £2 Fulham@8
£4 West Brom@4.8
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Chelsea@1.38 & £2 Swansea@10.5
£4 Man United@3.4
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Juventus | 99.0 | Sampdoria | 85.0 | |
| Napoli | 95.0 | Cagliari | 85.0 | |
| AC Milan | 94.0 | Torino | 84.5 | |
| Inter | 92.0 | Siena | 84.5 | |
| Lazio | 91.0 | Parma | 84.5 | |
| Fiorentina | 92.0 | Atalanta | 84.5 | |
| Roma | 91.0 | Chievo | 84.0 | |
| Udinese | 89.5 | Genoa | 82.0 | |
| Catania | 87.5 | Palermo | 82.0 | |
| Bologna | 85.0 | Pescara | 80.0 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 3.92 | Pescara | 3.60 | Napoli | 2.13 | ||
| 2.05 | Chievo | 3.72 | Genoa | 4.11 | ||
| 4.11 | Palermo | 3.72 | Inter | 2.05 | ||
| 3.17 | Parma | 3.52 | Lazio | 2.50 | ||
| 1.69 | Roma | 4.24 | Siena | 5.8 | ||
| 3.26 | Sampdoria | 3.55 | Fiorentina | 2.43 | ||
| 5.8 | Torino | 4.24 | Juventus | 1.69 | ||
| 1.69 | AC Milan | 4.24 | Catania | 5.8 |
Good call on the Baggies Tober.
cant believe they were 4.8
cant believe they were 4.8
yeah did seem big ther Mr E , Southampton always seem overrated to me but christ knows how many times i've lost opposing them
£3 Chievo@2.76
£4 Inter@3.50
£3 Lazio@3.25
£2 (liabilty) Lay, Roma@1.51 & £2 Siena@7.6
£2 Sampdoria@4.3
£2 Torino@6.6
£2 (liabilty) Lay, AC Milan@1.37 & £2 Catania@11.5
£4 Inter@3.50
£3 Lazio@3.25
£2 (liabilty) Lay, Roma@1.51 & £2 Siena@7.6
£2 Sampdoria@4.3
£2 Torino@6.6
£2 (liabilty) Lay, AC Milan@1.37 & £2 Catania@11.5
jesus , 10 losers in a row currently
£3(liabilty) Lay,Real Madrid@1.62
£2(liabilty) Lay,Benfica@1.46 & £2 Fenerbache@8.8
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Barcelona | 106.5 | Chelsea | 96.5 | |
| Real Madrid | 104.5 | Benfica | 94.5 | |
| Bayern Munich | 104.0 | Fenerbache | 88.0 | |
| Borrussia Dortmund | 100.5 | Basel | 86.5 |
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 1.88 | Real Madrid | 3.87 | Borrussia Dortmund | 4.77 | ||
| 2.00 | Barcelona | 3.75 | Bayern Munich | 4.29 | ||
| 1.50 | Chelsea | 4.90 | Basel | 7.7 | ||
| 1.69 | Benfica | 4.24 | Fenerbache | 5.8 |
£3(liabilty) Lay,Real Madrid@1.62
£2(liabilty) Lay,Benfica@1.46 & £2 Fenerbache@8.8
13 losers in a row some sort of record there
rating Liverpool 93.5 without Suarez, page 1 table for Stoke
£1 (liabilty) ,Lay, Arsenal@1.40 & £2 QPR @9.6
£3 Man United@2.24
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.0 | |||
| Man City | 99.5 | Sunderland | 85.0 | |||
| Chelsea | 96.5 | West Ham | 85.0 | |||
| Tottenham | 95.5 | Wigan | 84.5 | |||
| Liverpool | 94.5 | Aston Villa | 84.5 | |||
| Arsenal | 94.5 | Stoke | 84.0 | |||
| Everton | 92.0 | Norwich | 84.0 | |||
| Swansea | 86.5 | Southampton | 84.0 | |||
| West Brom | 86.5 | QPR | 82.0 | |||
| Newcastle | 86.0 | Reading | 81.0 | |||
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 4.95 | QPR | 3.93 | Arsenal | 1.84 | ||
| 2.10 | Liverpool | 3.69 | Everton | 3.96 | ||
| 1.92 | Man United | 3.82 | Chelsea | 4.86 | ||
| 2.19 | Sunderland | 3.57 | Stoke | 3.78 |
rating Liverpool 93.5 without Suarez, page 1 table for Stoke
£1 (liabilty) ,Lay, Arsenal@1.40 & £2 QPR @9.6
£3 Man United@2.24
what my ratings? No it is a disaster (or would be if i had bet serious money on them last couple of years) . If the ratings were accurate it would work very well.
15 consecutive losers , this is epic
rate Chelsea 97 now .
£2 Tottenham@4.9
Swansea were 4.9 too and came out at about 3.0 on my ratings but i forget about that match
rate Chelsea 97 now .
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 2.10 | Chelsea | 3.69 | Tottenham | 3.96 |
£2 Tottenham@4.9
Swansea were 4.9 too and came out at about 3.0 on my ratings but i forget about that match
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | |
| Man United | 100.0 | Fulham | 85.0 | |
| Man City | 99.5 | West Ham | 85.0 | |
| Chelsea | 97.0 | Sunderland | 84.5 | |
| Tottenham | 95.5 | Wigan | 84.5 | |
| Liverpool | 94.5 | Aston Villa | 84.5 | |
| Arsenal | 94.5 | Stoke | 84.0 | |
| Everton | 92.0 | Norwich | 84.0 | |
| Swansea | 86.5 | Southampton | 84.0 | |
| West Brom | 86.0 | QPR | 82.0 | |
| Newcastle | 86.5 | Reading | 81.0 |
17 consecutive losers in the end 
| Match | P/L | Bet 1 | Bet 2 | Stake | Return | Tot.Stk. | Tot.Ret. | ROI | Bank | Com.Tot. | ||||||
| 295 | Liverpool v Chelsea | £3.00 | £3 Chelsea@3.7 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,346.00 | £1,162.14 | 86.34% | £116.14 | £33.21 | ||||||
| 296 | B Munich v Barcelona | £3.00 | £3 Barcelona@3.5 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,349.00 | £1,162.14 | 86.15% | £113.14 | £33.21 | ||||||
| 297 | Basel v Chelsea | £4.45 | £3 Chelsea@2.56 | £3.00 | £7.45 | £1,352.00 | £1,169.59 | 86.51% | £117.59 | £33.44 | ||||||
| 298 | Man City v West Ham | £2.00 | £2 Draw@6.6 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,354.00 | £1,169.59 | 86.38% | £115.59 | £33.44 | ||||||
| 299 | Everton v Fulham | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Everton@1.53 | £2 Fulham@8 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 300 | Southampton v West Brom | £14.44 | £4 West Brom@4.8 | £4.00 | £18.44 | £1,362.00 | £1,188.03 | 87.23% | £126.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 301 | Pescara v Napoli | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Napoli@1.39 | £2 Pescara@10 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,366.00 | £1,188.03 | 86.97% | £122.03 | £34.20 | |||||
| 302 | Sampdoria v Fiorentina | £2.00 | £2 Sampdoria@4.3 | £2.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 303 | Chievo v Genoa | £3.00 | £3 Chievo@2.76 | £3.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 304 | Roma v Siena | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Roma@1.51 | £2 Siena@7.6 | £4.00 | £0.00 | ||||||||||
| 305 | Parma v Lazio | £3.00 | £3 Lazio@3.25 | £3.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 306 | Palermo v Inter | £4.00 | £4 Inter @3.5 | £4.00 | £0.00 | |||||||||||
| 307 | Torino v Juventus | £2.00 | £2 Torino@6.6 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,384.00 | £1,188.03 | 85.84% | £104.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 308 | Chelsea v Swansea | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Chelsea@1.38 | £2 Swansea@10.5 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,388.00 | £1,188.03 | 85.59% | £100.03 | £34.20 | |||||
| 309 | Arsenal v Man United | £4.00 | £4 Man United@3.4 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,392.00 | £1,188.03 | 85.35% | £96.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 310 | AC Milan v Catania | £4.00 | £2 Lay,AC Milan@1.37 | £2 Catania@11.5 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,396.00 | £1,188.03 | 85.10% | £92.03 | £34.20 | |||||
| 311 | Real Madrid v Dortmund | £3.00 | £3 Lay,Real Madrid@1.62 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,399.00 | £1,188.03 | 84.92% | £89.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 312 | Barcelona v Bayern Munich | £2.00 | £2 Draw@4.5 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,401.00 | £1,188.03 | 84.80% | £87.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 313 | Benfica v Fenerbahce | £4.00 | £2 Lay,Benfica@1.46 | £2 Fenerbahce@8.8 | £4.00 | £0.00 | £1,405.00 | £1,188.03 | 84.56% | £83.03 | £34.20 | |||||
| 314 | QPR v Arsenal | £3.00 | £1 Lay,Arsenal@1.40 | £2 QPR@9.6 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,408.00 | £1,188.03 | 84.38% | £80.03 | £34.20 | |||||
| 315 | Liverpool v Everton | £2.00 | £2 Everton@4.7 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,410.00 | £1,188.03 | 84.26% | £78.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 316 | Man United v Chelsea | £3.00 | £3 Man United@2.24 | £3.00 | £0.00 | £1,413.00 | £1,188.03 | 84.08% | £75.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 317 | Chelsea v Tottenham | £2.00 | £2 Tottenham @4.9 | £2.00 | £0.00 | £1,415.00 | £1,188.03 | 83.96% | £73.03 | £34.20 | ||||||
| 318 | Man City v Wigan | £18.05 | £2 Wigan@10.5 | £2.00 | £20.05 | £1,417.00 | £1,208.08 | 85.26% | £91.08 | £35.15 |
Newcastle meant to be 86.0 , Liverpool 93.5 without Suarez ,Page 1 Table for Stoke
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 4.50 | Stoke | 3.73 | Tottenham | 1.95 | ||
| 1.66 | Everton | 4.4 | West Ham | 6.02 | ||
| 3.62 | Fulham | 3.63 | Liverpool | 2.23 | ||
| 2.57 | Norwich | 3.50 | West Brom | 3.08 | ||
| 2.83 | QPR | 3.40 | Newcastle | 2.83 | ||
| 2.23 | Sunderland | 3.63 | Southampton | 3.62 | ||
| 1.36 | Man United | 5.75 | Swansea | 11 |
£2 West Ham@7.6
£2 West Brom@3.55
£2 QPR@3.35
£3 Sunderland@2.84
£2 Swansea@13
£2 West Brom@3.55
£2 QPR@3.35
£3 Sunderland@2.84
£2 Swansea@13
not making any adjustments for team news 'need to win' etc
| Home | Draw | Away | ||||
| 1.80 | Chelsea | 4 | Everton | 5.14 | ||
| 1.44 | Liverpool | 5.24 | QPR | 8.71 | ||
| 3.62 | Newcastle | 3.63 | Arsenal | 2.23 | ||
| 1.30 | Man City | 6.4 | Norwich | 13.4 | ||
| 2.23 | Southampton | 3.63 | Stoke | 3.62 | ||
| 2.10 | Swansea | 3.69 | Fulham | 3.96 | ||
| 1.46 | Tottenham | 5.12 | Sunderland | 8.35 | ||
| 5.8 | West Brom | 4.24 | Man United | 1.69 | ||
| 1.80 | West Ham | 4 | Reading | 5.14 | ||
| 2.10 | Wigan | 3.69 | Aston Villa | 3.96 |
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Liverpool@1.29 & £2 QPR@13.5
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.56 & £2 Newcastle@6.6
£2 Stoke@5.8
£2 Fulham@5.8
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Tottenham@1.27 & £2 Sunderland@15
£4 Man United@2.1
£2 Reading@6
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.56 & £2 Newcastle@6.6
£2 Stoke@5.8
£2 Fulham@5.8
£2 (liabilty) Lay,Tottenham@1.27 & £2 Sunderland@15
£4 Man United@2.1
£2 Reading@6
|Team
£2 Borrussia Dortmund@4.9
| Rating | Team | Rating | ||
| Bayern Munich | 104.5 | Borrussia Dortmund | 100.5 |
| Draw | ||||||
| 2.29 | Bayern Munich | 3.60 | Borrussia Dortmund | 3.50 |
£2 Borrussia Dortmund@4.9
Yes i guess when their opponents are sub 1.30 , then 7.0 would not be appealing . I just meant Hodgson 0-0s should not be the same odds for a team of similar ability managed by someone else
Though i got 23 for this one
Though i got 23 for this one
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