Forget for a minute it's Liverpool please

It may go over some peoples heads but look what has come out re the MET and Media and Government it the last year or so !!

its a fascinating article, and to think the Tories are clambering for their very own "Thatcher moment"

is it any better today ???

Maybe should be on the Politics forum..

ML thats my point nothing has change re the Tories from then to now in their mind set. Only good thing is the Tory papers are hamming them.

DO no it's not the only thing is we get to know more so this couldn't happen again.

Twitter FB would assist as their faster the the media and journos.

My point is the PM and Police tried to lie and cover up and are still doing so.

Why does this surprise you??? People in power guilty of corruption and cover ups??? Wow fcuking wee, trying to use this as some sort of marker to brand and generalise the tories with is stupid at best. All political parties when in power are guilty of this sort of behaviour get over it and spare me your  cheap political points scoring...

they murdered that brazilian on the tube and lied about it

i have my doubts as to their honesty over the raoul moat case

terrorism laws seem to allow anyone to be sent to usa for trial
when a case would be laughed at over here

dashero, nobody has used the police as its political arm in the way Thatcher did.

bliar was just as bad, if not worse than thatcher

Why does this surprise you??? People in power guilty of corruption and cover ups??? Wow fcuking wee, trying to use this as some sort of marker to brand and generalise the tories with is stupid at best. All political parties when in power are guilty of this sort of behaviour get over it and spare me your  cheap political points scoring...

Lol.. thinly veiled "im a raging tory"

The party in power will use the police, media and whatever means necessary to achieve it's objectives , no matter how seedy or corrupt those goals may be... Liberal, Labour, Tory ,Green are all the same when they get in the hot seat you are deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

Lot's of poor communists on this thread,Moast shot himself HTH.

Super Kevin Davies, you are wrong , Can't abide any political party for the reasons I have stated above....

dashero, i've been talking about the politisiation of the police, anyone who was a football fan, a miner or protesting against the poll tax will tell you about it.

I'm just pointing out that our PM and Police lied in the Miners strike and did so again a few years later.

Thatcher was our worst PM even http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFcBRHC9MV0

That article lost all credibility when I read the words"Michael Mansfield" a man who wouldn't know the truth if it kicked him in the b0ll0cks.
I sympathise with the polce very difficult to deal with pissed up scousers and communist miners.

just wait for the new powers for the olympics

I know Police who worked in the miners strike and on football and they have told me how they were told to police it and how much moniey they made off the miners strike.

Dr DK might have something to say about labour, if he hadn't been murdered

Politicians and Police have been lying since the dawn of time ffs,
as Donny Osmond wrote Blair was just as bad , he went to war with Iraq on bullshit and then lied to the world about it. Just can't believe people are still surprised by the level politicians and police or those in power will stoop to..

communists?!! one eyed views from the right as ever

SKD

Willies to the right please,,

Blair was lied to re the War even the Tories agreed to go to War we had no choice ffs
we didn't know if they did or didn't.

Corruption is rife agreed but less so now the Leverson thing is doing wonders IMO.

Some excellent comments under the article on the Guardian site. This is all getting a bit "The Sun sez" for me

#TheSunSez

And who did the Guardian hold responsible for Heysel?

Hunter - do you have always to show yourself to be a horrible, bitter hater?

Margaret Thatcher was informed by an unnamed senior Merseyside police officer that "drunken Liverpool fans" were to blame for causing the Hillsborough disaster, according to confidential government documents leaked to the BBC and reported by The Guardian .

Police and Government and Murdoch were all the same at the
This officer is just sticking up for the other officer in South Yorks
I'm sure you can see this?!

South Yorkshire police, under Wright, had been "institutionally corrupt" and was still unreformed when the Liverpool supporters came to Sheffield for the FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest.

Police mismanagement

Lord Justice Taylor, in his official report into Hillsborough, published in 1990, judged that mismanagement by South Yorkshire police was the prime cause of the disaster, yet the force relentlessly sought to lay the blame on the Liverpool supporters. A unit of senior officers, reporting to Wright, oversaw that case, ordering junior officers to rewrite their statements, to delete criticisms of the police's own operation and emphasise allegations that supporters were drunk and misbehaving

disgraceful.

Apologies for last twas on phone but you get my drift.