List of people broken by Sir Alex Ferguson

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jim Leighton

No,no Dawsy. I think you are a cretin but have nothing against Fergie.

Mar 29, 2012 -- 8:46PM, Return_Of_Dawsy wrote:

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me ffs

and you missed out the most obvious

freddiek

when we get a thread entitled list of people who have broken alex ferguson i would like to nominate john magnier

Yes duffy - he looks a broken man.

Carlos Tevez

I don't get any on that list watchit

Howard Wilkinson

Danny Higginbotham (took a razor to him in front of the squad when he came to training unshaven)

Roy Evans

referees association would be a good starting point

My mate's daughter is married to Danny. Nice bloke by all accounts - and always clean shaven. Now.

Rafa???



So broken he walked IN and OUT of OT head held high and a 4-1 win. The fans who held the "cracking up" sign...applauding him when walking off at FT!!

Phil Thompson (told Graeme Souness that Thompson was badmouthing him behind his back)

Erm...selective memory Tendy?

List of world class player broken by the drunkard...

Forlan
Van Nilsteroy
Beckham
Berbatov

to start with

hmmmm time to leave methinks

Maybe a definition of broken is needed - I don't think any of those 4 would say a word against him Bullet

Back to the sane thread

Kenny left in 91 didnt he? ferguson didnt win the league til 93 i though

Its strange that all Fergies wins are put down to mind games and other managers bottling it.

I may be wrong but hasnt he won 12 titles in 26 years?

Does this mean he has lost more mind games than he has lost in England?

Also two european cups in twenty five years? Did he lose mind games 90% of the time in europe?

The Fergie 'mind games' thing is such a cliche.

Its strange that all Fergies wins are put down to mind games and other managers bottling it.

I may be wrong but hasnt he won 12 titles in 26 years?

Does this mean he has lost more mind games than he has lost in England?

Also two european cups in twenty five years? Did he lose mind games 90% of the time in europe?

The Fergie 'mind games' thing is such a cliche.

pandy
apologies, i didn't realize that we were talking literally, so in that case, none of these appear "broken" to me.

oh, i got one...brian kidd?

WENGER 1.01

I'd have put Wenger on there put they seem to be friends nowadays

So Fergie has lost more mind games than he has won in England?

Wenger have been much more broke by Bernard Tapie buying off his players in Monaco. Then he ran away in UK

Pandorica
29 Mar 12 20:59 Joined: 10 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 5,786 | Blogger: Pandorica's blog
Erm...selective memory Tendy?

Selective? Ironic considering the comments and myths about mind games\rants etc

oh and the list of World Class players above.....ermmmm oh dear

SMH

and lets just add in the 1995 Blackburn title for Kenny. Mind Games won then??

ALAN HANSEN

jp mcmanus and john magnier

gerard houllier

rafa FACT

Mrs Ferguson

pep guardiola

oh wait.....

Darren Ferguson

JamDav1982 29 Mar 12 21:03
Its strange that all Fergies wins are put down to mind games and other managers bottling it.

I may be wrong but hasnt he won 12 titles in 26 years?

Does this mean he has lost more mind games than he has lost in England?

Also two european cups in twenty five years? Did he lose mind games 90% of the time in europe?

The Fergie 'mind games' thing is such a cliche.

So every time he lost in 1986 he was defeated by mind games?
Takes time to build a winning team.
12 titles, soon to be 13, the man is a genius. Not even got the strongest squad.

I would also like to nominate the BBC General who had to beg Ferguson to come back.

So Fergie gets six years to build a team but a lot of the names mentioned dont get that and get called victims to Fergies mind games?

If seasons are won on mind games then he has lost won more than he has lost and has lost 90% of the time in europe.

I am not slating Fergie, more saying the whole idea of Fergie being some kind of Derren Brown of the management game is just a cliche and doesnt get given to other managers when they beat him.

Wayne Rooney

Pretty strange that some man utd fans seemingly unsatisfied with all the trophies Alex Ferguson has delivered the club, insist these trophies were won based on some psychological warfare with other managers rather than building the superior team.  As if the likes of balotelli and silva are poring through the Sun everyday worrying what clever quotes Sir Alex has come up with to upset them.jesus christ.

And as mentioned it begs the question what happens in europe

His consistency of winning trophy's and rebuilding team after team for 25 years is why he will be remembered for one of the best, only way he can be judged is if pep guardiola stays at barca for 25 years and see how consistant he is, or even any other manager if someone comes about, obviously you have mourinho but he has moved club to club at the moment. No offence arsenal fans, but look at wenger, how could he is, 7 years and no trophy, there is no consistency there, people can carry on dissing fergie saying of his failures in europe, but he is still joint 2nd in all time european multiple winners with 2 wins and 2 loses in final, with Bob Paisley 1st on 3 wins, pep and mourinho have a good chance of going one better this year thou, so we will see, but lets not forget barca have a team that is truly unique at the moment and mourinhos real madrid have soo much firepower and strengh in depth too

David Beckham by a low flying football boot.

The Bank when acquiring David De Gea

That South African woman.

SIR FERGIE IS A TRUE LEGEND BUT I'M SURE IF HE HAD HIS TIME AGAIN HE WOULD HAVE SWITCHED FROM 4-4-2 IN EUROPE YEARS BEFORE HE DID

IT REALLY TOOK MOURINHO TO SHOW HIM THIS WAS THE WAY TO SUCCESS

The poor guy who empties fergies local bottle bank.

How did  Fergie 'break Dalglish'   

Dalglish has been a manager for about 9 of the seasons Fergie has been there and won more titles in those seasons.

Howard Webb

Pep Guardiola
Jose Mourinho
Marcelo Bielsa ()

Broken I tells ya!

Louis Van Gaal...

duffy you're such a fúcking clown fella,are you and over2.5 the same person,pretend to support manchester united on this forum just to amuse youselves?

fergie

i ve got bobby murdoch squaring up to him in the 1970 scottish cup final on tape ,and he absolutely craps himself

Kenny Dalglish played at center back for Celtic reserves once and pissed him the whole match

Looking at Sir Alex's record, you'd think that he had a massive financial advantage for most of it, then was still more than able to compete on wages once other clubs had a bigger transfer budget.

Yeah, must've been mind games that won it

you'd think that he had a massive financial advantage for most of it

Liverpool spent more in the 90's.

Kinda makes that point look incorrect, don't you think?

wayne rooney was broken to the tune of around £200,000 per week

No it doesn't, Manchester United on average have spent more on wages over the last 20 years- wages are the important financial determiner in a football teams success rather than transfer fees.

800k for mal donaghy what a shrewdie ,not in the same league as shankly ,stein busby or clough imo

Sergei

You've got the figures, have you?

Takr your point about wages, but if you go down that road, you then have to consider other revenue streams.

Should Man Utd's achievement's be tainted with the 'they spent more than anyone else brush' (if you are right, not sure) if they have utilised their resources and made more money, through merchandising etc?

Man utd

Return Of Dawsy 29 Mar 12 20:46 
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Is that JamDav the Barca fan? Yeah he must've been absolutely distraught when Fergie's teams got embarrassed twice by Barca.

And you can take me off the list too. I openly admit i think Fergie is the best British manager of all time. As i've said many times before i think you confuse me being an ABU with me thinking you're a complete c*nt.

As i've said many times before i think you confuse me being an ABU with me thinking you're a complete c*nt

I don't wish to get involved in any name calling, but have to say - this made me laugh.

Fergusons off licence manager

I don't have the figures to hand, I'm going off data I read in "Why England Lose: And other curious phenomena explained." It was written just before the last world cup, and has an interesting table where it plots average wage and average team performance. Manchester United have both the highest average wage and highest average performance, and the results for most teams are very, very consistent. Interestingly, at the same time Wenger came into Arsenal they had a massive cash injection that allowed them to start paying proper wages - Tony Adams has said that he considers the extra cash almost as important as Wenger himself.

This isn't to detract from Sir Alex or from Wenger, but it's a very interesting way of looking at things - the books a cracking read and you can get it for about a fiver off amazon, I highly reccomend it.

Cheers, I'll do that!

Arsenals high wages are always over looked by people who consider their success in the transfer market. At one point I think the wages were double what Spurs were paying!

There was a table in the newspapers the other day listing players such as Denilson, Vela, Bendtner, Arshavin, Chamakh and Squillaci are all on over £50k a week.

The figures may not be accurate, but it does give an indication about how high their wage bill must be.

Arsenal have a good bit of deadwood in their team. All season I've been saying that I fancied them to finish above spurs, and their extra spend on wages is a bit factor in that (though I'm not the biggest Redknapp fan either).

Ashley Cole is a good example of the wages thing. For the sake of an extra 5k a year Arsenal would've kept him, some strange decisions made by Wenger at times.

whatever the number bendtner wore was his weekly wage at arsenal..in k's

JamDav1982
29 Mar 12 23:17 Joined: 03 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 3,420 | Blogger: JamDav1982's blog
So Fergie gets six years to build a team but a lot of the names mentioned dont get that and get called victims to Fergies mind games?

If seasons are won on mind games then he has lost won more than he has lost and has lost 90% of the time in europe.

I am not slating Fergie, more saying the whole idea of Fergie being some kind of Derren Brown of the management game is just a cliche and doesnt get given to other managers when they beat him.

Large article in today's paper all about Fergie's mind games. Seems it's a bit more than a cliche.

The point is that the mind games thing only ever gets brought up when Man Utd win and never ever gets brought up when they lose titles.

It never gets brought up when Man Utd have failed to win the league over half the time he has been there and never gets brought up in europe where they have failed to win 90% of the time.

But how many times have you seen Fergie lose his cool at other managers like Keegan lost his? (and his massive 14 point lead)

The league was over by the time Keegan lost his cool! I am sure I have read that Liverpool also picked up more points after Benitez 'facts' rant.

Yet both these titles were heavily put down to mind games.

yep

Newcastle were something like 3pts down with 2 games to go

Liverpool had been struggling for weeks before the Rafa one

Fergie will be having a little chortle to himself after that display

Fair point Jam but how many times have you seen Fergie combust like Wenger/Rafa/Keegan down the years. His mental strength is one of his assets. To live with the pressure of being Manu manager for 25 years and to keep his cool in these high emotional times is a rare skill. Mancini looked a mess yesterday after the game.

Someone put Howard Wilkinson? didnt he win the title before Fergie? Infact beating Man Utd to 2nd place if i remember rightly. Or does this not count because it was before Sky invented footy???

Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead Manchester United Fan in the road?
A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.

Mario Ballotelli

I presume if Utd win tomorrow the usual tards will be saying he pwns Mancini, while if they draw it'll all be forgotten.

that's how it works isn't it?

Howard Webb´s bottom.

The mind games thing is such a joke.

Folk bring up Keegan but the league was over by then, they bring up Benitez but Liverpool gained more points after he made his 'facts' rant

Now its being said that he has broke Mancini, yet these 'mind games' have started when Man Utd are odds on favourite for the title.

If Fergie gets credited for mind games when they win surely he should be seen to have failed when they dont win, but thats not the case.

Its a cliche by the media and a lot of Man Utd fans that Fergie is some kind of Jedi/Derren Brown mind genius.

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