Celtic lose - Lennon blames referee

going back to my point yesterday,regarding the last time Rangers won the title at Celtic Park,I think the authorities were taken aback at the reaction to this happening,and didn't want a repeat or an even worse backlash as could have happened considering all that has been going on at Rangers recently.

I think (my own opinion) that the referee could have been influenced (and remember Hugh Dallas) to try and ensure that this scenario did not occur,which would explain the initial sending off and one or two other decisions.

FECK never sees any injustices in his favour.

Jase, I already gave you my comeback. You're the one saying there is no injustice. You prove it. You can't because most of them have already been mentioned and the list could be engraved on an ant's balls. I've even given you a logical reason as to why it happens and why it will contine to happen while Scottish football is overseen by a sectarian organisation.

stewarty, has anyone ever remarked on your uncanny resemblance to the late frames.

since the spl started rangers have won 7 and Celtic 6 titles.
was the establishment fixing the titles in the 7 seasons rangers won it.
seems to me  the way a  'conspiracy theory'works is not quite understood by the establishment.

I'm merely pointing out that a list of perceived injustices is not remotely useful when considering whether there's a conspiracy to consider, until you have compared that list with injustices in your favour.

Feck has no comeback to this.

That is all

Fair enough G Hall. My assertion is that it would never happen the other way round though.

barrycool, I think what you're trying to say is that if Celtic win ANY game then there is no conspiracy. Such imbecility was dealt with earlier. HTH.

Jase, I already gave you my comeback. You're the one saying there is no injustice. You prove it. You can't because most of them have already been mentioned and the list could be engraved on an ant's balls. I've even given you a logical reason as to why it happens and why it will contine to happen while Scottish football is overseen by a sectarian organisation.

The diddy man has no comeback to this.

That is all

not sure feck,not when the league is done and dusted,I remember the night against Juventus when we were robbed by the referee,and Martin O'Neill was furious,but he still kept his cool,because he respected the club so much.

stewarty, has anyone ever remarked on your uncanny resemblance to the late frames.




Come on Feck, give me a bit more street cred than that.

G, It's one thing a ref making a mistake and quite another a deliberate (or "honest" as they are know in this country) mistake. When the refs were on strike Celtic drew at Parkhead having been disallowed an onside goal for offside. Neil Lennon thanked the foreign officials for having a good game after the final whistle despite that error.

barrycool, I think what you're trying to say is that if Celtic win ANY game then there is no conspiracy. Such imbecility was dealt with earlier. HTH.


i was trying to say when celtic win the spl that will be 7 titles each.What that says to me is there is very little between both teams as proved by the equal share of spl titles.
But you and the rest of the deluded celtic support cannot even bring yourselves to admit this.

Feck - Your post represented a refusal to answer the point.

Hope this helps

If you believe there was no bias last season your own delusions clearly know no bounds. If a derby winner dead heated with a selling plater would that mean the derby winner couldn't have been disadvantaged because it won?

Jase, is that your list of incorrect decisions in Celtic's favour? It's pretty near the mark if you ask me. Well done.

Childs speak it is then.

Okay.

Feck - do you accept that some incorrect decisions go in favour of Celtic? Or are you of the belief that Celtic never receive an incorrect decision in their favour?

lennon is a little cretin a man with no class and a disgrace just look at the great past managers of celtic and then theres lennon oh dear

The question has already been answered Jase. You should try child reading.

Feck - what are your thoughts on the refereeing of Craig Thomson?

Oh look, another "neutral" has joined the thread.

I don;t believe it has been answered, so just answer it again.

Or are you avoiding it?

Thomson has been OK over the last few seasons. We both have complaints about him. Maybe he hates us both. I'd settle for them all being like that.

Also if there is a conspiracy against Celtic, could you please explain how you were awarded a British record number of penalties last season?

Also if there is a conspiracy against Celtic, could you please explain how you were awarded a British record number of penalties last season?

If you removed all penalties in games involving Rangers and / or Celtic from last season then Celtic would've been clear winners of the SPL. It's one thing getting 3 penalties in a game you win 9-0, it's quite another getting 1 in a game you win 2-1. Who said it's a British record BTW? Bob Crampsey from the other side? When it was first banded about it was supposedly a world record. I'll tell you what, if you can prove to me it was even a Scottish record then I'll donate 5K to Oxfam and get the Glasgow office to post proof of the donation on their website.

Feck - do you accept that some incorrect decisions go in favour of Celtic? Or are you of the belief that Celtic never receive an incorrect decision in their favour?

Yes or no questions... there's obviously a reason why feck won't answer them.

I would hazard a guess that Celtics opponents had the greatest amount of sending offs as well

Only hours after Rangers triumphed in the Highlands, Celtic beat Dundee United 5-1. The match was refereed by Craig Thomson, one of those confirmed ‘St Mirren’ fans referenced in the opening paragraphs. Thomson denied Dundee United a penalty, which if awarded and subsequently scored, would have tied the game at 2-2 in the second half. TV replays confirmed this was a clear penalty kick and Thomson had conspired to miss it, but the level of analysis offered to this latest gaffe paled in comparison to that which was lavished on Rangers earlier in the day.

Rewind to last season’s League Cup Final and we’ll be reminded of Craig Thomson’s unique gift for favouring Celtic with little to no reprimand. Jelavic burst into the penalty box and was clipped on the knee by the studs of some forehead-heavy malefactor in Hoops. Thomson, probably forgetting his remit for a moment, immediately pointed to the spot as further Hooped-horrors surrounded him, screaming in his face. The correct decision here would have been to book the wailing baseborns flobbing in his face, instead, he remarkably changed his mind and booked the Rangers player for diving. He held up his hand in an apologetic gesture to the green and white underclass. Later, he would claim in the press he didn’t point to the spot at all; the clear TV evidence showing he did was never flagged up by a compliant media. What is perhaps more astonishing is the lack of response over his pathetic ‘mind changing’. Celtic fans take great delight in telling us they had a referee sacked for changing his mind in respect of a penalty awarded to their team. Here we are, only months after that headline incident, and we are facing exactly the same scenario with Rangers in the spotlight, and it is instead glossed over and never mentioned again!

Later in the same game, Mo Edu played a ball into the box which was deftly flicked away via the forearm of Mark Wilson. The cameras showed referee Thomson to be glaring straight at the incident but he simply waved play on, choosing to ignore what would have been an easy decision in favour of Rangers. No criticism was aimed at Thomson, from what I could read of the rudimentary doodling on the pages of Scotland’s sports press.

Later in the same game, Father of the Year Mulgrew took down Jelavic whilst clean through on goal. In terms of ‘denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity (Law 12)’ is was as clear a decision as any referee could hope for but, again, Thomson decided to bend the rules to suit Celtic and only a yellow card was awarded, giving them maximum chance of rescuing the game. That Rangers managed to win that game and lift the cup is quite staggering given the woeful performance of a referee whose continual genuine mistakes favoured the same side over and over again.

Thereafter we can cite the final Old Firm game of last season, where the horrible Stokes threw himself into Steven Davis in the box. Thomson (him again) pointed to the spot as even Davie Provan (!!!) conceded he’d got it completely wrong. Again. He failed to point out that of all the recent mistakes Thomson has made, only one team continually benefited. Again the Scottish press were as good as unanimous in their silence, instead reserving praise for Neil Lennon taking to the field to taunt the opposition. Of course, Lennon ended up a loser as we waggled a victorious phallus in his pretty face but that’s not the point. For the umpteenth time we’d seen decisions awarded incorrectly in favour of Celtic. That season Celtic would break the British record for penalties awarded in one season, yet the more deluded amongst their number still deduce they aren’t favoured by the officials. Thankfully it is easy to tune into the nasal warbling of the wider Celtic support. One particular unemployed Scotsman living in Ireland serves as a handy conduit into the minds of the permanently-challenged.

I'll donate 5K to Oxfam and get the Glasgow office to post proof of the donation on their website.



You've made enough donations as it is Feck. Especially to your English friends at Perth.

Christ, they must have all thought their birthdays had come at once.


Hope they return the favour some day, when you turn up at an English drinks meeting with your SNP badge on your lapel. (previously labour)

Moaning about refs when they were awarded the most penalties in a season in the history of football

That is a great stat biscuit

You've given yourself away with that post jase. Cut and pasted from one of your regular forums methinks.

Yes feck - you might as well add Rangers to the list. This forum has me down as a Man Utd lover, a Man Utd hater, a Spurs fan, a Liverpool hater... throw Rangers in, why not

It's such a great stat but biscuit's confidence in it is such that he's not willing to put in a bit of work to make me 5K lighter. Even if it was true, what does that say about Rangers when they would've lost the spl with all penalties for that season removed from the records?

Jase is impressed yet hasn't a clue how many were awarded against Celtic. Funny how some stats are supposedly worthless without the other side of the story but others are pure gold in the total absence of the other side.

Jason just leave Feck to it, he will never admit he is wrong.

There are countless decisions that go Celtics way but he will choose to ignore them or deny they happen.

Hes pathetic just leave him to it.

Good point well made JamDav. You and Jase should go out drinking together. It would serve you both right.

Feck N. Eejit 27 Mar 12 17:43 
It's such a great stat but biscuit's confidence in it is such that he's not willing to put in a bit of work to make me 5K lighter. Even if it was true, what does that say about Rangers when they would've lost the spl with all penalties for that season removed from the records?




What do you want me to prove?

It says Rangers won the title despite Celtic getting a world record amount of pens. What does it say about Celtic that despite getting SEVENTEEN pens in a season you still came 2nd?

Good comeback. Surely you have better than that.

What a sad state of mind you live with. By far the most deluded person on this forum.

I want you to prove what you claimed. What does it say about Rangers penalties when they'd end up finishing 2nd to a club that's had 17 penalties removed from their scores?

I can't be that deluded JamDav. I tipped the jambo who assaulted the Blessed One to be found not guilty. No bigotry in Scotland

Feck - what decisions did the referee get wrong on Sunday?

Complain about bigotry in Scotland all you like but all clubs have idiots.

Just like the Celtic fans who belt out the pro IRA songs and the ones who racially abused Islam Feruz when he left Celtic.

First sending off, Stokes offside when through on goal on his own, Whittaker hold (penalty) on Ledley, Whittaker raising studs to Wanyama, offside goal. There was also a couple of blatant fouls on Samaras where play was allowed to continue. HTH.

It's not the biggoted fans I'm bothered about JamDav. It's the bigots in the SFA.

Feck you are deluded. Go get a life son.

But I suppose you, Jas & Biscuit think they couldn't be bigotted because they're professional people just like Donald F1ndlay

Getting decisions wrong doesnt prove anyone as being 'biggoted'.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Rangers get more decisions than Celtic. If anything this season by far the mose blatantly wrong decisons have been in Celtics favour.

You didn't see the Rangers v ICT game or Rangers v Dunfermline game then JamDav? Of course those two balls over the line that no ref could've been expected to call anull everything. It's always the way. The old "Roy Aitken once took a shy for us in the 70's". Get a grip cousin.

All you have proved there Feck is that both Celtic and Rangers have benifited from such decisions. Which is my point.

Feck grow a set and think for your self,stop taking everything Lennon spouts as pure gospel.

Your attitude and similar garbage from Rangers fans is a major reason why people are turning away from Scottish football.

I have came to the conclusion that feck is  mantally disturbed ,and all sharp objects have been removed from his reach ,


he forgot to mention that Broony should have seen red TWICE

I have to go out and sell some pegs now. I'll leave you huns and closet huns with my 5K challenge. Have a nice evening.

What badge will you wear on your lapel tonight Feck? I'm guessing the Old Labour one, with your fake union card tucked away in your back pocket to show off to your pals. It must have broke your heart when Tory Blair took over Old Labour. Once a champagne socialist.......

The phrase "savaged by a dead sheep" comes to mind.

what about the linesman who disallowed caddettes goal in the late 90s ,which changed the course of the league , and was then photographed in the pub 6 weeks later wearing a rangers top .

"Celtic set a new British record in the 2010-11 season with a total of 17 penalties. The Bhoys' last spot kick of the campaign came when Kris Commons converted from the spot against Inverness Caledonian Thistle on 4 May. The previous British record was held by Manchester City, who were awarded 15 pens in 1971-72"

PAY UP FECK

5K I BELIEVE

see you at the party ,will you all be there

Sometimes, if you're on a beach holiday, you see some young children digging a hole in the sand and using it to build a wall in front - like a trench type situation. Then, as the tide comes in, they try to keep the wall in tact, but alas, the tide always wins through, and the wall is crushed.

I feel that this is a useful analogy when considering Feck's behaviour on this thread.

shuda, since when does putting a statement in inverted commas constitute proof?

Fecks away out for a walk with his labrador and his white stick.

what about the linesman who disallowed caddettes goal in the late 90s ,which changed the course of the league , and was then photographed in the pub 6 weeks later wearing a rangers top .

That must have been one that slipped through the net sevenone. Normally these guys are first sent to Tibet for 10 years to train under the Dalai Lama so they're above the sectarian issues that pervade Scottish football. At least that's what many of the clowns on here seem to believe.

I suppose when you fall overboard into the water you will grab at any flotsam to keep afloat and Feck is no different.No matter how clever he tries to disguise it  he is  a blind bigot.

*cleverly

see everyone at the party ,all invited

You all must understand, football is not Feck's forte. Horsracing on the other hand, well, that's a different cup of tea, hence the man is a multi-millionare. (and good luck to him)

I suppose when you fall overboard into the water you will grab at any flotsam to keep afloat

Very topical in Titanic week telepathic. Built by the NI Rangers Supporters Club and, just like their club, unsinkable.

^^^^^^

Mocking the dead now are we FECK

Aye shudacuda, very poor taste.

Feck N. Eejit     Joined: 10 Jan 02
Replies: 6835 27 Mar 12 17:21 
If you removed all penalties in games involving Rangers and / or Celtic from last season then Celtic would've been clear winners of the SPL. It's one thing getting 3 penalties in a game you win 9-0, it's quite another getting 1 in a game you win 2-1...


Would Celtic also have won the league if both they and Rangers had scored all the penalties they were awarded in SPL matches that season?

If so, have you considered the possibility that Rangers simply had a better conversion rate than Celtic from the penalties they were awarded in clutch situations that season? As opposed to Rangers having had a greater probability of being awarded a penalty in a tight match situation?

If I recall correctly, Samaras missed an incorrectly awarded penalty late on in the final Old Firm SPL match at Ibrox that season. If Celtic had scored from that penalty they would almost certainly have won the league.

If so, have you considered the possibility that Rangers simply had a better conversion rate than Celtic from the penalties they were awarded in clutch situations that season?

If you can find any Celtic missed penalties in clutch situations beyond the one you mention let me know. Believe me, they're pretty sparse on the ground. There's at least one game where Rangers needed two penalties to win 2-1 to take the 3 points (away to Kilmarnock - the same Kilmarnock who conceded 3 goals to them in the first 6 minutes on the final day).

Would Rangers have won this game against Celtic without this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zsVTaGTENE

Mocking the dead now are we FECK

stewarty b     28 Mar 12 14:50 
Aye shudacuda, very poor taste.

You two really are scraping the barrel.

Like I said before, football is not Feck's forte. Wakey wakey Feck, the flat starts on saturday.

As for the Titanic comment......

At least there's a barrel to scrape. Whereas the divi flats is so old hat now.

http://footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19369

No idea if it's true (just like those spouting the so called Celtic record have no idea) but, if it is, it shows biscuit's quote to be false. I also suspect the Celtic totals include cup games (Celtic did play more cup games than Rangers) whereas Cardiff were league only.

If you 2 are scraping the barrel you are out of luck Feck has scraped right through trying to escape as its always his turn in the barrel and this is why he is such a grump.

Like I said before, football is not Feck's forte.

Sadly stewarty, this is not about football.

Cardiff got 16 penalties during the 2008-09 season.

I can list them all too if you like Feck. Where's that 5k?

Would Rangers have won this game against Celtic without this?

2-1 based on the final score. In truth, I don't know whether or not Rangers would have won that game if that penalty hadn't been awarded. The same applies to all, or almost all, the tight matches in which Rangers or Celtic were awarded penalties last season.

Stating that Celtic would have won the league if all penalties were wiped is meaningless and it certainly doesn't indicate any bias against them. In itself, it doesn't even suggest that Celtic were awarded any less penalties than Rangers in clutch situations that season.

Feke is CLUTCHing at straws as usual.

Stating that Celtic would have won the league if all penalties were wiped is meaningless and it certainly doesn't indicate any bias against them. In itself, it doesn't even suggest that Celtic were awarded any less penalties than Rangers in clutch situations that season.

At no time did I say my point indicated a bias against them. Surely it was the "record number of penalties" mob that were claiming their figures indicated the contrary. My point merely ridiculed their claim.

Cardiff got 16 penalties during the 2008-09 season.
Biscuit1979     28 Mar 12 15:49 
I can list them all too if you like Feck.

OK, list them. Note that it still makes your Man City quote incorrect.

Sadly stewarty, this is not about football.




Eh??? You'll have to enlighten me Feck, what is this thread about????


It all started off with Neil Lennon and the old firm match, but it's not about football???

And the last time I looked, Man City were a football team..

It's about sectarianism within the SFA.

And the last time I looked, Man City were a football team..

?

lennon is a horrible man.
why doesnt he just go to liverpool. then at least the fans and club will have a manager who reflects their own standards.

Feck N. Eejit

There's at least one game where Rangers needed two penalties to win 2-1 to take the 3 points (away to Kilmarnock - the same Kilmarnock who conceded 3 goals to them in the first 6 minutes on the final day).


Would this be the same Kilmarnock who capitulated a few months ago when 3-0 up with 18 mins to go and conceded 3 late goals to Celtic and save Lennons job?

It's about sectarianism within the SFA.


I can't believe you get involved in these threads Feck. If you really think it's about sectarianism, let it go. It works both ways, as you are well aware.

Get back to tweaking your fully automated system and PM me your nap every day. I promise not to lump on until given the nod.

come on boys theres ice cream and jelly to look forward to

This is getting ridiculous,

How many more titles would rangers have won if they signed catholics before souness started doing it in 1980's.

How many more would celtic have won if (english clubs had not be banned from europe) rangers wouldn't have got all the top english players.

How many titles would aberdeen have won if fergie had stayed for another ten years?

Where do we draw the line,I could go on and on.

UEFA has been infiltrated by the SFA.

Celtic just been fined 21k for their fans behaviour in Udenise.

Another conspiracy?

If you really think it's about sectarianism, let it go. It works both ways, as you are well aware.

If the SFA, referees and referees committee was dominated by Celtic supporters it probably would all work in reverse. I don't think tim officials (answerable only to a refs committee made up mainly of tims) would be any less biased than hun refs are under the current setup. Yet, if those who are at odds with me on this thread are to be believed, none of them think there would be any change at all. It would just be fair refereeing all the way. Naive or what?

FECK its funny how you are the only one that spews sectarian nonsense on this thread.


Does that tell you something?

Having Scottish football run by orangemen is and has been a recipe for disaster. I do not consider having such an opinion to be sectarian. If I thought having the KKK officiate the great white hope v the great black hope would that make me a racist?

Anyway, I've got to go out to sell more pegs. Have a good evening.

If I thought having the KKK officiate the great white hope v the great black hope was a mistake would that make me a racist?

its a worthless SPL trophey this year anyway

lennon failed in europe, twice
failed in league cup
handed league

only title he can win on own merit is scottish cup....and they are lucky to be there after being outplayed by a first division side.

Lennon simply has to deliver in europe next season or even the blind deluded fans will turn on him

takethestand, be careful what you say on this thread, or else Feck will force you into living in a divi flat.

party still on bhoys ,no tickets or invites needed

I'll be there