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Is a blow by blow account being shown somewhere,transfer window style?
Are Wylde and Celik any good?
Basically have they asked to be released because they'll have other clubs after them or were they likely to be pushed anyway?
Basically have they asked to be released because they'll have other clubs after them or were they likely to be pushed anyway?
Mervan Çelik, you have been evicted. Please say your goodbyes and leave the big BOTHER hoose.
Greg Wylde, you have been evicted... Please say your goodbyes and leave the big BOTHER hoose.
Rangers players currently going in to see administrators one by one to learn their fate, I thought animals went in two by two?
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Over to The Big House & No Swearing
Over to The Big House & No Swearing
wylde asked to leave to "help rangers", the cynic in me says his agent has a club lined up for him already 
Graham Spiers (@GrahamSpiers)
3/6/12 2:32 PM
This is a grisly player-by-player cull at Rangers. And a trio of coaching staff – McCoist, McDowall and Durrant – might not remain intact
3/6/12 2:32 PM
This is a grisly player-by-player cull at Rangers. And a trio of coaching staff – McCoist, McDowall and Durrant – might not remain intact
rangers latest.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17274241
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17274241
Stupid Football
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THEY MUST BE worthless ,or the administrator failing in his job , of using every possible means ,to get funds together ,to satisfy the creditors , who he is working on behalf of .
HMRC alone are looking for 9 million only for starters .
Everything that moves or anybody wants is a price .
Used as an example to clubs the party is over ,clean up begins new brooms in soon to bid for the remains of what was Rangers .
% JOB FOR CREDITORS ,a few pence in the pound ? Welcome new prospective owner,,s to work with administrator to work through the jigsaw that the club has become ,very very difficult time ahead ,,no sign yet of a white shining KNIGHT ??????...DISSAPOINTING ????
SAD THAT THEY WILL LOSE ,, ILL GOTTEN GAINS OVER YEARS ,championships etc ,if found playing their own game ,off the park ....SUPPORTERS DESERVED BETTER....................
HMRC alone are looking for 9 million only for starters .
Everything that moves or anybody wants is a price .
Used as an example to clubs the party is over ,clean up begins new brooms in soon to bid for the remains of what was Rangers .
% JOB FOR CREDITORS ,a few pence in the pound ? Welcome new prospective owner,,s to work with administrator to work through the jigsaw that the club has become ,very very difficult time ahead ,,no sign yet of a white shining KNIGHT ??????...DISSAPOINTING ????
SAD THAT THEY WILL LOSE ,, ILL GOTTEN GAINS OVER YEARS ,championships etc ,if found playing their own game ,off the park ....SUPPORTERS DESERVED BETTER....................
The Rangers cheating scandal goes so far back that the battle of the boyne has just been awarded to king James.
and there was me thinking that 9 in a row was an achievement, doesn't look so good now you see how they did it 
3 weeks today since the administrators moved in and they are still negotiating.
3 days with other clubs and there were redundicies.
This is eating into creditors money.
3 days with other clubs and there were redundicies.
This is eating into creditors money.
3 weeks for something that should of happened in the first few days - add in trying to sign Cousin on 7.5k a week you would think the administrators don't want Rangers to come out of this situation
I wonder who liquidation would benefit. Now who worked with them before buying the club and had them lined up to be the preferred administrators?
Bye bye Rangers
I wonder who liquidation would benefit. Now who worked with them before buying the club and had them lined up to be the preferred administrators?
Bye bye Rangers
he is appointed by rangers man ,but still a job to do , which is turn the business round and back to a clear field satisfying the HMRC , feeling is they are staying in for long term , fact it's 3 weeks up the road ...a bit strange nobody in to SAVE THEIR BACON ...?
A lot of things are very murky , and not been explained too well ,morgages, any thing thats debt strangling them ,,apart from a large wage committment .
looks to get to end of season is the priority ,at moment so still hold league status come may,time ?already docked points ,thats it so far . L ISTED BUILDINGS ETC WILL HAVE TO REMAIN IN SOME FORM , so football best option for clubs , continuation ,N ew name ,,,, who knows , last step ....liquidation ...LAST POST ...? TAKEN THEMSELVES TO THE CLEANERS ?
A lot of things are very murky , and not been explained too well ,morgages, any thing thats debt strangling them ,,apart from a large wage committment .
looks to get to end of season is the priority ,at moment so still hold league status come may,time ?already docked points ,thats it so far . L ISTED BUILDINGS ETC WILL HAVE TO REMAIN IN SOME FORM , so football best option for clubs , continuation ,N ew name ,,,, who knows , last step ....liquidation ...LAST POST ...? TAKEN THEMSELVES TO THE CLEANERS ?
Can it possibly get any worse for Rangers?.....
An inquiry into the Rangers Charity Foundation has been launched after it revealed the crisis-hit club would receive most of its proceeds from a friendly match.
The Ibrox club are hosting a game between former players of both Rangers and AC Milan later this month.
It had originally been organised to raise funds for the Rangers Charity Foundation, which was going to receive 60% of all money gathered by the game on March 30.
The charity, which has donated more than £2.3m to various causes since it was set up in 2002, has reduced the amount it will take from the game to 10%, meaning the majority of the money raised will go to the club, which is currently in administration.
On Tuesday, the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator confirmed it had been made aware of "concerns" regarding the game after the change to the benefactors.
A spokesman for the regulator said: "We can confirm that we have an ongoing inquiry into the Rangers Charity Foundation. It would therefore not be appropriate to comment further."
An inquiry into the Rangers Charity Foundation has been launched after it revealed the crisis-hit club would receive most of its proceeds from a friendly match.
The Ibrox club are hosting a game between former players of both Rangers and AC Milan later this month.
It had originally been organised to raise funds for the Rangers Charity Foundation, which was going to receive 60% of all money gathered by the game on March 30.
The charity, which has donated more than £2.3m to various causes since it was set up in 2002, has reduced the amount it will take from the game to 10%, meaning the majority of the money raised will go to the club, which is currently in administration.
On Tuesday, the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator confirmed it had been made aware of "concerns" regarding the game after the change to the benefactors.
A spokesman for the regulator said: "We can confirm that we have an ongoing inquiry into the Rangers Charity Foundation. It would therefore not be appropriate to comment further."
reality strikes at footie players .........cuts in wages AT RANGERS .
TOP EARNERS LESS 75% ..middle ..50% BOTTOM 25% WELL OUT WITH AFFORDABILLITY ?
All rest OF CLUBS in similar situation I WOULD BET .
TOP EARNERS LESS 75% ..middle ..50% BOTTOM 25% WELL OUT WITH AFFORDABILLITY ?
All rest OF CLUBS in similar situation I WOULD BET .
Celtic supporters make me laugh.If Rangers go under just who will watch Scottish football next year ? Crowds are tiny outside of the Old Firm and with only one "Giant" (relatively speaking) you might as well pack the whole game up.Don't think that English football would welcome you with open arms as the English police would not allow it.
The Scottish government won't allow Rangers to go under.
CELTIC ... old old firm ,,or new old firm fixture will be st mirren ... or killie ..?..... great viewing ?
rangers at queens park ..or clyde ....?
rangers at queens park ..or clyde ....?
So onto wednesday now.
These administrators are a fkn joke.
These administrators are a fkn joke.
CELTIC ... old old firm ,,or new old firm fixture will be st mirren ... or killie ..?..... great viewing ?
rangers at queens park ..or clyde ....?
i dont think celtic give two hoots , anyway watching rangers next season will be exciting , killie WOULD be better
rangers at queens park ..or clyde ....?
i dont think celtic give two hoots , anyway watching rangers next season will be exciting , killie WOULD be better
Liquidation is only good if they are demoted to the 2nd division as they will escape all their debts .
Better if they are forced to repay most of the money,keeping them skint for the next 10 years.
Better if they are forced to repay most of the money,keeping them skint for the next 10 years.
"Celtic supporters make me laugh.If Rangers go under just who will watch Scottish football next year ? Crowds are tiny outside of the Old Firm and with only one "Giant" (relatively speaking) you might as well pack the whole game up.Don't think that English football would welcome you with open arms as the English police would not allow it."
You are absolutely right the ignorance is laughable. Peter Lawwell is the worst offender spouting bravado and BS about how the club will flourish and become a force in europe without their rivals, the man is a cretinous moron of the highest order that makes himself and the club look stupid as frequently as he can.
You are absolutely right the ignorance is laughable. Peter Lawwell is the worst offender spouting bravado and BS about how the club will flourish and become a force in europe without their rivals, the man is a cretinous moron of the highest order that makes himself and the club look stupid as frequently as he can.
With the suggestion that rangers will be unable to fulfill all their remaining fixtures I wonder if the administrators are now hoping for relegation to the first division? This may be their escape route. Chick Young stated that the only route to the lower divisions would be through relegation, and it is no certainty that in the event of liquidation the SPL members would vote them back into the SPL as a newco.
With the suggestion that rangers will be unable to fulfill all their remaining fixtures I wonder if the administrators are now hoping for relegation to the first division? This may be their escape route. Chick Young stated that the only route to the lower divisions would be through relegation, and it is no certainty that in the event of liquidation the SPL members would vote them back into the SPL as a newco.
Greg Wylde, you have been evicted... Please say your goodbyes and leave the Castle Greyskulls
unlikely for nobody to come out the woodwork flashing a checkbook with funds init ?
the administrator is in charge and has the total say ,to any agreement ,,and the courts put him in that position ,pity players could not see sense , and will now be pushed .
...15 amateurs can play till end of season costing nothing to give breathing space to find a buyer ,longer it goes on less and less for creditors ,as he needed to keep the players as assets on the balance sheet ...pretty sad day for whole of football world wide and a wake up call , golden goose no longer laying eggs .....................? HMRC had stacks out the club over years starting with 20% off every game V.A.T. A LOT OF LOLLY .
all clubs watching how this lot unfolds ,ready to travel in RANGERS FOOTSTEPS .
the administrator is in charge and has the total say ,to any agreement ,,and the courts put him in that position ,pity players could not see sense , and will now be pushed .
...15 amateurs can play till end of season costing nothing to give breathing space to find a buyer ,longer it goes on less and less for creditors ,as he needed to keep the players as assets on the balance sheet ...pretty sad day for whole of football world wide and a wake up call , golden goose no longer laying eggs .....................? HMRC had stacks out the club over years starting with 20% off every game V.A.T. A LOT OF LOLLY .
all clubs watching how this lot unfolds ,ready to travel in RANGERS FOOTSTEPS .
rangers fans make me laugh thinking they are the be all and end all of scottish football, everyone is loving the fact you lot are ****ed , the sooner ur bankrupt the better imo.
Hearts are 30m in debt ,with your owner about to walk away , Hearts are f**** as well , big diference no one will give a toss
madvlad
he aint leaving us mate . let the papers brain wash you lad.
35million actually , BUT we pay our taxes on time .......... Mostly
he aint leaving us mate . let the papers brain wash you lad.35million actually , BUT we pay our taxes on time .......... Mostly
I Remember the Rangers fans being in the same denial .
no Hearts dont pay their taxes on time or their wages on time.
no Hearts dont pay their taxes on time or their wages on time.
can't see liquidation happening, be some lean years ahead but thats no harm..
this is all because of prods and catholics. ****in shame on u its just football
scottish football world of make believe .ride on .welcome to reality .
First it was the Whyte Knight.
Then it was the Blue Knight
Now it's Night Night.
Then it was the Blue Knight
Now it's Night Night.
some real ill informed nonsense being written on this thread , prods and catholics has 0% to do with what is happening to RFC at the moment , dont see Celtic having to much difficulty attracting 50,000 to Parkhead every 2 weeks say 20 times a Season with only 2 of these games being against Rangers 4 at a maximum with Sky money only accounting for 3% of Celtics current income , and with regards to RFCs future it cannot be in Div 3 , 2 or 1 in Scotland it can only be as they exist at the moment or as a New Co but only in the SPL and thats only if they are voted in , so in short here is what can happen
Rangers stay in the SPL as they are after coming to an agreement with their Creditors in the form of a CVA , this is highly unlikely as their Main Creditor is HMRC , yet this is what Craig Whyte is claiming will happen .
Rangers are bought over by a Sugar Daddy/Daddies that pay off all their Debt (anything up to £75m) and they remain in the SPL trading as normal as Glasgow Rangers , again highly unlikely as who in their right mind would take on such a Debt as well as a Company currently running at a £1m loss per month ?
Rangers Win their case against HMRC are bought over and drastic cuts are made in order that they can run the Club at a profit and remain in the SPL
Rangers go into Liquidation and cease to trade as Glasgow Rangers they could then reform as a New Co and re apply to join the SPL which obviously can go one or two ways , a Yes and they are back in a different form in the SPL though in a much weakened state eg No European Revenue for at least 3 years and with a Squad starting from scratch , a NO and they have nowhere to go and therefore cease to exist
On top of all that they have an SFA Inquiry into Financial Irregularities (2 Contracts) to survive as this too can put them out of business , a Legal Inquiry into Craig Whytes right to be a Fit and Rightful Owner/Director of a Company , a probable UEFA Investigation into their Business Transactions and the owning to Ticketus the amount of £24m for future Season Ticket Sales .
All in All I'd say their Future is anything but Orange/Bright
Rangers stay in the SPL as they are after coming to an agreement with their Creditors in the form of a CVA , this is highly unlikely as their Main Creditor is HMRC , yet this is what Craig Whyte is claiming will happen .
Rangers are bought over by a Sugar Daddy/Daddies that pay off all their Debt (anything up to £75m) and they remain in the SPL trading as normal as Glasgow Rangers , again highly unlikely as who in their right mind would take on such a Debt as well as a Company currently running at a £1m loss per month ?
Rangers Win their case against HMRC are bought over and drastic cuts are made in order that they can run the Club at a profit and remain in the SPL
Rangers go into Liquidation and cease to trade as Glasgow Rangers they could then reform as a New Co and re apply to join the SPL which obviously can go one or two ways , a Yes and they are back in a different form in the SPL though in a much weakened state eg No European Revenue for at least 3 years and with a Squad starting from scratch , a NO and they have nowhere to go and therefore cease to exist
On top of all that they have an SFA Inquiry into Financial Irregularities (2 Contracts) to survive as this too can put them out of business , a Legal Inquiry into Craig Whytes right to be a Fit and Rightful Owner/Director of a Company , a probable UEFA Investigation into their Business Transactions and the owning to Ticketus the amount of £24m for future Season Ticket Sales .
All in All I'd say their Future is anything but Orange/Bright
whyte---appointing the administrator--edinburgh high court judge allowing it
even judge JUDY saw that 6000 miles away
even judge JUDY saw that 6000 miles away
It;s voluntary administration as an offence to trade insolvent ? they hung themselves out to dry ?
There needs to be an investigation into the Administrators .
How can it be over 3 weeks since they went in and no redundancies?
By my figures thats over 3/4 million they have squandered of creditors money.
How can it be over 3 weeks since they went in and no redundancies?
By my figures thats over 3/4 million they have squandered of creditors money.
At the administrators very first press conference it seemed strange when they said they'd had ties with rangers for the previous 6 months. Plus the administrators were in favour of signing Daniel Cousin on £7500 pw when the club was in administration. FFS, what good was that going to do the creditors???
its amazing that only 2 young lads have been released. considering they would be on penny's compaired to the likes of goian,bocanegra,mcgregor,papac,edu,laughatme to name a few . incredible
Going to happen Friday supposedley.
Mind you the administrators have stated this umpteen times and nothings happened.
Mind you the administrators have stated this umpteen times and nothings happened.
Unfortunately I dont like to see a club get themselves into this type of scenario ,as its a precious asset to fans , local jobs ,local economy generally ..butcher baker etc , and country as well .
Sorry day ,,their will be more as time goes ,,on this one is small edge of the wedge , only thing , its not the banks that called them in , how did they miss out ,RANGERS must have exhausted banks patience earlier ? wages too high by a mile ....? CRAZY ....
Sorry day ,,their will be more as time goes ,,on this one is small edge of the wedge , only thing , its not the banks that called them in , how did they miss out ,RANGERS must have exhausted banks patience earlier ? wages too high by a mile ....? CRAZY ....
Rangers go into Liquidation and cease to trade as Glasgow Rangers they could then reform as a New Co and re apply to join the SPL which obviously can go one or two ways , a Yes and they are back in a different form in the SPL though in a much weakened state eg No European Revenue for at least 3 years and with a Squad starting from scratch , a NO and they have nowhere to go and therefore cease to exist
Isn't a Yes Vote very likely in that scenario, with 4 games a season v Rangers a big part of the income of most Clubs?
A New Rangers would be debt free, in the SPL , 40,000 crowds..... Only the creditors lose. How likely is that?
With a No Vote could they just restart in Scottish Non league like all the English Clubs who went bust did?
Isn't a Yes Vote very likely in that scenario, with 4 games a season v Rangers a big part of the income of most Clubs?
A New Rangers would be debt free, in the SPL , 40,000 crowds..... Only the creditors lose. How likely is that?
With a No Vote could they just restart in Scottish Non league like all the English Clubs who went bust did?
a no vote and they will apply to the SFL for the vacant position in the third division
a yes vote requires a 10-1 vote in favour by the clubs
no matter what chick dung on radio scotland says about the 6 man board deciding it
the clubs will vote on it and the board will ratify the decision
no matter what chick dung on radio scotland says about the 6 man board deciding it
the clubs will vote on it and the board will ratify the decision
I see, ty Gerbs
So just 2 clubs need to say No to keep them out.
Would it be a secret ballot?
So just 2 clubs need to say No to keep them out.
Would it be a secret ballot?
I feel bad, I gave up a weeks Irn Bru to try and save Rangers. Sadly, it wasn't enough.
no it would be a vote round the table
a table that includes mad vlad , celtic and petrie from dunfermline who will not be relegated if rangers dont get in and who stated this week t "if rangers come out of admin then fair enough but if they are liquidated its a different kettle of fish"
a table that includes mad vlad , celtic and petrie from dunfermline who will not be relegated if rangers dont get in and who stated this week t "if rangers come out of admin then fair enough but if they are liquidated its a different kettle of fish"
10 non old firm teams meeting next week to try and sort out new voting rights.
Looks like they have had enough of the old firm dictating
Looks like they have had enough of the old firm dictating
sorry yorkston from dunfermline
petrie from hibs was mentioning sporting integrity if rangers are liquidated
petrie from hibs was mentioning sporting integrity if rangers are liquidated
petrie from hibs was mentioning sporting integrity if rangers are liquidated
It would look very bad indeed for football if they were able to effectively walk away from the debt and just resume under a slightly different name with no consequences for their league status .
It would look very bad indeed for football if they were able to effectively walk away from the debt and just resume under a slightly different name with no consequences for their league status .
If rangers are liquidated will celtic hold the world record for titles???
only if the 2 contract problem results in some of them getting stripped
if not celtic have to get past 54 and bust
if not celtic have to get past 54 and bust
if they are allowed straight back in as a new company debt free having dumped 70 mill of debts while others are loaded with debt from years of trying to keep up with them
the other teams will only have themself to blame when supporters turn their backs on it and say whats the feckin point
would hearts be able to go down a newco route to escape theirs ?
no doubt if they do get back in rules will be changed so it cant happen again
the other teams will only have themself to blame when supporters turn their backs on it and say whats the feckin point
would hearts be able to go down a newco route to escape theirs ?
no doubt if they do get back in rules will be changed so it cant happen again
Gerbs, in your view, what is the most likely outcome of this whole debacle? Personally can't see liquidation happening..
liquidation looks a cert
but they will come back as a new club the same day they are hoping to do it at the end of the season if they can get there as it will be alot easier to sort out
but they will come back as a new club the same day they are hoping to do it at the end of the season if they can get there as it will be alot easier to sort out
no one will come forward and throw millions away paying debts and with the big tax case still to hit when you can get out of by liquidating and newco
But as you stated earlier how the fcuk is that going to look, racking up huge debts and slithering away from paying tax especially in this climate and just setting up the next day??? "We don't do walking away"....unless it is from debts we owe
If they are liquidated though, wouldn't HMRC just seize Ibrox and sell the land?
So the Newco would have nowhere to play
So the Newco would have nowhere to play
if they cannot come out administration
the assets will be sold by the administrators to someone who sets up a new company
and the money received from this will be paid first to any secured creditors what they are owed then anything left divided between the remaining creditors and the old company is liquidated
HMRC are not a secured creditor
the assets will be sold by the administrators to someone who sets up a new company
and the money received from this will be paid first to any secured creditors what they are owed then anything left divided between the remaining creditors and the old company is liquidated
HMRC are not a secured creditor
Celtic would only face Rangers at Home 4 times a Season once in a Blue Moon for that would require getting a Home Draw in the Scottish Cup and we all know how often that happens ? as for the loss of revenue on the 2 League Games CELTIC GET 40,000 + at Home no matter the opposition and if needed a couple of Glamour Pre Season Games at Home which they haven't really done in the past few years would fill the void and more left by the Rangers Revenue
CELTIC GET 40,000 + at Home no matter the opposition
^ incorrect.
^ incorrect.
2011 Celtic in 19 Home Games averaged 48,978
2012 Celtic in 15 Home Games averaged 49,441
Need any more ?
2012 Celtic in 15 Home Games averaged 49,441
Need any more ?
^ Well obviously you never said "average" if you did I would never have questioned your stat.May I suggest in future if you are quoting statistics you try and be factual therefore avoiding misleading figures.
how would you vote mad vlad in the newco rangers application to join the SPL
ps Gerbs what has that got to do with luna's daft figures ?
so is tomorrow d-day for the mighty glasgow rangers??!!??
ps lee wallace GIRUY
ps lee wallace GIRUY
That awkward moment when the tax-man turns up at Ibrox
How very noble of Naismith to finally, reluctantly agree to take a %75 pay cut while there is %100 certainty that he won't kick a ball for the rest of the season anyway. Very commendable. My hero!
How very noble of Naismith to finally, reluctantly agree to take a %75 pay cut while there is %100 certainty that he won't kick a ball for the rest of the season anyway. Very commendable. My hero!
and remember we average the above crowds playing against sh ite ,imagine man utds average against the likes of killie, st mirren etc, and what would our crowds be against proper opposition,and you could sell pay per view every game hail hail
Personally I hope they disappear off the face of the earth. They are the rallying point for the right wing s c u m of Scotland. Unfortunately it won't happen but maybe a decade or two in the wilderness will see their influence wane.
the only dismantling I want to see is the stripping of those filthy unearned titles from the late 80s onwards
luna bid 08 Mar 12 20:34
2011 Celtic in 19 Home Games averaged 48,978
2012 Celtic in 15 Home Games averaged 49,441
Need any more ?
Out of interest, i wonder how many people buy a season ticket just to guarantee a seat for the Rangers games.
2011 Celtic in 19 Home Games averaged 48,978
2012 Celtic in 15 Home Games averaged 49,441
Need any more ?
Out of interest, i wonder how many people buy a season ticket just to guarantee a seat for the Rangers games.
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